Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

JonB

Both 2009 Cos and Ducru are (like most 2009s) widely available here for their initial release prices. With RP's reviews down or equal, and these wines not selling their 2009 and being widely criticized for their pricing, a slight step lower may help but is probably not enough to stimulate sales. I'v...

JonB

I've enjoyed visiting (my sister used to live there). As I recall the world class ski resorts were a long drive or several train connections away, but fairly accessible. Nice culture and living standards, and certainly tourist sites. My sister ultimately returned to the States to be closer to family...

JonB

I'm amazed prices are as high as they are now for recent-release Lafite and 1sts; it is beyond my comprehension and values. Still, I can see the value if I was in a position of wanting to impress someone that represented millions in potential business.....

JonB

Glen -from what I've read it has plateaued, albeit at high levels. My case of '04 sold for 13320.

JonB

You drank a classed growth?

I thought these were just investment instruments.

JonB

All these posts of silly priced wine has me frustrated. So I just bought a 6-pack of 2008 Anderson's Conn Valley Cab. Reserve for $65 per bottle, 98 point RP. I've tasted and have older vintages of this, plus the Eloge, and find these to be just stunning, long lived wines (and fair values for a Napa...

JonB

A Message about 2010 Bordeaux Futures from owners Ed and Michael Sands, Calvert Woodley Lots of new wines out today -- big name chateaux -- but we passed on each of them. Since some of you have inquired we thought we'd take this opportunity to let you know our thought process. Wines released today ...

JonB

I bought 2005 Branaire futures for $51. Most if not many 2005s escalated in price over the course of the campaign in response to strong demand....partly because of a strong economy, partly because most reviewers came out with 3 reviews (barrel, bottle, and release). It's now for sale for $70-90ish. ...

JonB

I bought four and a half cases ealy on of 2009s...Pontet Canet, Montrose, Poyferre, Duhart and Pavie Macquin. They were expensive, but became more expensive not long after (so no, even though the price has a small apparent rise, it is no bargain). I've resisted the urge to buy more, but will probabl...

JonB

Like others, I get some satisfaction out of knowing I paid a fair value for purchases. It is ever more apparent that --- for whatever reasons --- many of the 2010 Bordeaux don't offer good value compared to many products coming out of Washington State, and compared to relatively recent Bordeaux vint...

JonB

This is still a good vale compaed to first growths, super seconds and a few other premium world class wines in the world. However, compared to 99.99 percent of wines produced it is very overpriced. With approximately 12 cases in the cellar from 1996-2005 (and an early case order of 2009 at $109) I'm...

JonB

It IS a world wide market.....but just because demand could increase doesn't necessarily mean prices will go up.....there's been large increases in supply of quality wines. My guess is that the high quality 2010 vintage has had a dampening impact on sales of 2009s (because it takes away from the &qu...

JonB

No notes yet on the blind tasting? I'm going totally on memory, which became progressively worse as I sampled most of the wines that came by.....if I had 20 plus stems (instead of the 3) I probably would have used them all as it was hard to refuse pours of so many great wines, and it would have been...

JonB

Yes, a fabulous job of hosting (all nights)....great venues, food, and fun (and of course wines).....

JonB

Au contraire, I am quite appreciative of the Dragon boat. I am taking a case of 2004 Lafite, purchased on release locally at $186/750, to K and L today to test their auction market, where they've indicated $1000+/750.

JonB

This is only $95 at Zachys. Quick, buy, before the Chinese recognize the potential of this 90-92 RP wine.

JonB

Werner - how do you want to gather the "tasting" wines and allow for proper decant or slow-ox (Auduze)? Eg is this something we should do on an individual basis with the tasting wines, could we bring them to Ed's on Friday, take them to the restaurant early Saturday...or..?

Thank you!

JonB

I can empathize with both of you with the New Hampshire change (and Stefan's supplier also exiting the business). Costco also decided to exit the Bordeaux classed growth market. After their large selection of 2005 futures, they had a very limited selection of 2006 futures at first tranche prices (e....

JonB

Agreed, Marc. It all depends on the reference point.....compared to other 2009s? Compared to 2000s? Compared to disposable income? For me, there's a few California and Washington wines that I'm acquiring a taste for that are currently in the $30-75 range, but also with a full cellar, being overweigh...

JonB

More than what he said about 2010, my opinion of what was interesting was in his market analysis he gave consideration to a possible/plausible theory that the Asian sales are not all they are cracked up to be, that chateau (particularly the 1st growths) could be holding back significant amounts of w...

JonB

Upon hearing the news, I went to the cellar and emptied a bin laden with wine.

JonB

Amazing to hear this was so close to Islamabad.

JonB

This is supposed to come out electronically on May 3. I recall a thread where he called it a great, great vintage but not greater than '05 or '09.

JonB

ABC news confirms this, but is light on details.

JonB

Werner - yes, 2006 DdC blanc. Two is fine with me if that's what works.

JonB

What are those Wine Spectator events called....Grand Tastings? A local winemaker told me he was invited to pour their wines at one, but had to pay a $5000 fee. Then they also charge the participants a hefty ticket price. This is all about money, I don't think it influences reviews....and if it did i...

JonB

Ed - if you expand the reservation by one, that'd accommodate Tom and Gail, Comte and guest, you and Lisa, and myself for the Burgundy dinner......

JonB

I could bring the '06 Domaine de Chevalier.....let me know.

JonB

Just a side note, but did RP get '89? Nic (pants up) and I shared an '89 LeovillePoyferre that Nic and I scored a 95. RP reviewed this at 87 points twice and 89 once, calling the tannins tough and the texture coarse. To his credit Neal Martin reviewed it at 88-89 in2003, but finally got it right wit...

JonB

From looking at the Wiki website it appeared H Boillot (and Jean Boillot) had a low incidence of reported premox.

JonB

Thank you for all the input! It made me go back and do more homework, and Here's some excerpts from Burghound: About Henri Boillot in 2004 vintage reviews "Henri Boillot continues to make stunning wines from his négociant operations and he has arguably become the finest pure négoce specializing...

JonB

Does anyone have experience with this producer? I've read Tanzer reviews on the 2009s, and was thinking I'd buy a few of the Volney 1ers (Chevrets, Caillerets and Fremiets) as well as the basic Bourgogne that have arrived, before Burghound reviews come out.

JonB

Comte - is your plan to go to Ed's flat prior, and then a late dinner? If so, I might be interested as well.

JonB

I could bring 1989 Poyferre, Las Cases or Haut Bailly, or 1990 Barton.

JonB

I have a few of both '89 and '90 (both left and right banks).

JonB

Sounds like this was not closed? I think I saw this on some recent sales. RP reviewed 88-90, N.Martin 93, WS 89-92.

I bought a few '05 Pomerols but haven't tried a single one yet......but there's no rush.

JonB

That's an impressive list. And a wise way of funding it.

"Any day"......PC's customer service people must have had scripting from an attorney!

JonB

Hound - are you talking 17 British pounds, do you have the flu, or are you skiing every day? I've made a few purchases, I confess; 2007 Anderson Conn Valley Eloge (Calif.) 2007 Soos Creek (this is a small Washington producer; an ex-Boeing engineer that produces some outstanding Washington Bordeaux b...

JonB

The email says 6 weeks, but I suppose they intend to mean arrival at their shop.

I'm still out on some of my 05 Bdx, and the customer service people are no longer making estimates on when it will arrive, but saying "we will get it".

I'd go for that Ausone, Jay.

JonB

Happy April 1 to all BWEers.

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