Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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Bordeaux is Brahman.

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Well, Hound, since the Right Bank is not Bordeaux, how could it possibly win BWE wine of the year? Should have as much chance as any other non-Bordeaux!

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Bordeaux, the wines of the left side of the Gironde and Garonne!

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"I've never really considered the right bank part of Bordeaux. Whenever I think of the "greatness of a vintage" or the characteristics of a vintage or the weakness of a vintage or the weather patterns of the vintage, etc., I'm always speaking in terms of the left bank. The right bank ...

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If you enjoy reading Chris Kissak's notes on Bordeaux and Loire wines, come March you'll have to pay for the pleasure.
http://www.thewinedoctor.com/blog/2013/ ... r-readers/

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The back-end heat kinda reminds me of some Zins I've had. I too was wondering about St. Estephe, Chasse. Being the most northerly commune, I thought it might be affected less by the heat than the more southerly appellations, and therefore thought they might be producing a wine with a crisper palate....

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It was bothering me that so many wine critics were comparing the 09 vintage to Napa. I used to drink a lot of CA cabs at one time (still drink some), and so far the 09s didn't really remind me of them, although the vintage is clearly a ripe one. This evening that changed. I have to say that the 09 P...

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Here's what Neal Martin wrote about the 2009 Ch. Cantemerle: Tasted at a negociant. The Cantemerle '09 has a well defined, quite pure nose that shows more precision and essence of terroir than the Camensac sampled alongside. A very nice marriage between exuberant ripe, rounded fruit and Bordeaux aus...

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You know what they say about great minds, RDD!

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Jim, have you -- or anyone else for that matter -- checked in on the 03 SM? How does it stand up to the 05?

Okay, just came across Blanquito's review from a year ago:
http://www.bordeauxwineenthusiasts.com/ ... f=4&t=3599

Anyone try it since?

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Bet they don't have any '96 GPL on their list!

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05s coming out of hibernation, you say. I haven't tried an 05 in quite some time. Not too tannic? All, some, or just Sociando? Might just be the time to compare the 05s with the 09s, in an A/B sort of way that is.

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Well, then, I'm glad I started this thread. I eagerly await Jim's assessment.

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Saw the folks at my local wine store unloading a couple cases of the 09 Cantemerle, which made me realize no one seems to be drinking it or talking about it this year. Checking with the pros only makes me wonder more: Jancis Robinson says it's too green and austere, while the lawyer from Maryland sa...

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I think when experienced tasters like Tooch express their lack of tasting experience, it really is a sign of the degree to which this vintage is throwing people for a loop! I too will be taking a wait and see approach, and will not be pre-ordering anything. On her web page Jane Anson has expressed s...

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More very mixed results:
http://www.cellartracker.com/event.asp?iEvent=20411

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I found his ranking, David. Forgot he had 2000 in the #2 spot, 08 in #3: 2005, 2000, 2008, 2009, 2001, 2006, 2002, 2004, 2010, 2007, 2003

I really hope he's right about 08, if for no other reason, they're affordable.

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David, I've seen his ranking of the vintages of the past decade. If I remember correctly he ranks 05 first, followed by 08. 09 is further down the pack, and he's got 2010 near the end.

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Hard to know about Mr. Gilman's motives, Pom. It is possible to be completely sincere, and yet deliver your message in such a way as to attract a lot of attention. Scoring the '09 Cos d'Estournal at 68 (or whatever it was he gave the wine) is certainly one way of attracting a lot of attention while ...

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No matter what you think about Suckling, his airs or tasting abilities, he is a true BWE. His enthusiasm for Bdx is always front and center. He should post here! While he and so many others are in love with 2010, there are some dissenting voices, as one would expect. One of the loudest, the bete noi...

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Thanks Pomilion. Sounds like a great time -- great approach to tasting by the way. Interesting that you prefer lots of '09s to '10s. 08 was the last year I bought PLL; '09 is nuts, '10 nuttier. Looks like Haut Bergey is on a roll; nice '09 and now a nice '10 too.

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Thx for the update Orlando. I've got a case of the 05 GPL in the cellar sleeping away. Guess I'll leave it there. Can't help wonder if something like the 07 might be a bit more open. And what of the 09 -- catch it before it goes to sleep? That shall be your assignment for next week. Report back here...

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Sounds like a really great night, and most importantly, sounds like you really enjoyed yourself. Congratulations.

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What a difference a decade makes!

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Another wine with a deep red colour, although not quite as black as the Duhart. Nice aromatics: crushed stone, hint of menthol, violets, anise, as well as the family of darker berries. This is a somewhat lighter, crisper wine than the Duhart. Not quite as rich, but still very nice. In fact, I can se...

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With futures pricing like that Blanquito, I'm glad I got the 09s. They may be my last DMs. (have a case of 06s and a half of 03s in the cool room)

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I too have had the 05 and 06 d'Issan back-to-back, and I agree entirely with Outlier. The 05 is off the charts. I don't understand the hesitant scores it received from the wine tasting gods.

Anyone tried the 09 yet?

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They make Pinot in Oregon?!

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The BD preferred the 88 VCC to the 89 LB!!!! He's really a right banker in mouton's clothing!!

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Stefan, I like your style!

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I guess I'm lucky in that I paid original futures price; I had no idea what they're going for now. So I am led to qualify my earlier statement and recommend DM to whomever can afford it. And if Duhart can't be your representative from Pauillac, well I'm not sure where to go. Perhaps d'Armailhac? Any...

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Holy cow, this stuff is drop dead gorgeous. Like so many of these 09s, it's got a really deep black-red colour in the glass. You can smell the graphite on the nose, along with licorice, bramble, vanilla, a little hazel nut. It is a beautiful viscous mouth feel, as silky as a set of fine sheets. Rich...

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... is going bankrupt!
http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/ ... ith-lender

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More on Pontet Canet! The latter half of this video features Alfred Tesseron speaking about his 2010:
http://www.jamessuckling.com/2010-borde ... three.html

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'please allow me to introduce myself!' Beware RobertGoulet, that way lies the Devil!

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Hard to say exactly, but I'd say I'm 75% Bdx (almost all of it from the left side), 10% Burgundy, 12% Piedmont, and 3% odds and sods.

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Speaking of the devil -- here's a PC vertical for the past decade:
http://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/vie ... =1&t=77935

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I was on the same wave length as the gracious Comte when I started this thread. Bdx is traditionally pretty awkward from 5 - 10 yrs of age. However, while we might have difficulty discovering whether modern Bdx can improve over 20 yrs, we should be able to test something of Kramer's assertions about...

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In a new on-line column, Matt Kramer, writer for the Wine Spectator, maintains that red Bdx no longer needs to be aged the way it once did. Most will reach their peak, or get most of the way there, in about 5 yrs, maybe 10 in some cases. Comparing today's Bdx with that of 20 yrs ago Kramer writes: &...

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There usually isn't a problem getting to taste what ever you want at these sorts of events here. St. John's only has a total population of about 100,000, so the event might not even sell out (last I checked there are still tickets available!). As for food, they usually have hind quarters of beef on ...

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