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Bacchus

If 98R is great, just wondering about 98L? I take it it isn't as good as the right side, but is it horrible. If I can get a few bottles of 98 GPL cheap, is it worth it?

Bacchus

I like the 05 Haut Bailly too -- have most of a case. And I agree that 05 was good to Pessac: SHL and DomChev also worth the price of admission. Has anyone taken a look at St Estephe north? Is it not true that they're normally less gooey/sweet, if not down right hard as nails: Sociando, Calon Segur,...

Bacchus

Since it's parkerized, thought it would be interesting to see what HE had to say about it: "Sweet, toasty, oaky notes interwoven with hints of black olives, blackberries, cassis, and spice box are found in this densely saturated ruby/purple-hued 2005. While rich, with impressive concentration a...

Bacchus

I see. Oh my. Problem for me is I don't have and can't get most of the wines being discussed, including: Talbot, Carbonnieux, LeoP, du Tertre. I own many labels, but none of those!!

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Bacchus

I believe you, Hound. My experience so far with the tannin levels of 05 is that they are at variable stages of development. For example, and as I've already written, I found the 05 Lafon Rochet to be so tannic it couldn't be drunk. The Camensac wasn't as bad, but tough enough and clearly needs time....

Bacchus

Polish, Russian?! Socialism, Communism, Terrorism!? We don't need to make such overly fine distinctions. They just get in the way of thruthiness. Anyway you look at it, it's all just more Euro-badness!

You keep thinking like that, Jim, and we'll make you an honourary Canadian.

Bacchus

That article is actually one of a series of articles on the MAN, mostly as a sort of tribute I think; and it helps to read them all. The author does recognize that there may be all sorts of factors influencing the change in Parker's pointing, but I still find the observation of the change to be an i...

Bacchus

I think 6 years is just not enough time to really evaluate the vintage. But I gotta admit, I'm loving those 05 Margaux -- so hedonistic. But we have to stop calling them gooey or syrupy. I used to drink a lot of Cali Cabs and Aussie Shiraz. Now that stuff is syrupy, esp. the aussie shiraz. From that...

Bacchus

I knew it!! "Howaniec", eh? Sounds kinda Russky to me! I'm getting in touch with Rush!

Bacchus

May be a specific wine thing, David. I've had some 05s that were quite approachable (Issan, Giscours), but I've also had some so tannic they were undrinkable (eg. Lafon Rochet). I found the 05 Haut Bergey I had some 8 months ago to be tighter than the one Hound just drank, but that was 8 or so month...

Bacchus

Here's an interesting take on the evolution of RP's scoring. Thought it might be of interest:
http://fermentation.typepad.com/ferment ... ntage.html

Bacchus

In celebration, I just bought a mixed case of 07 barolos: some Grasso, some Oberto, and a couple of different Brovias. Yum yum.

Bacchus

I gotta say, RG, I love reading your tasting notes. So many of them read like a recipe containing little more than a list of flavours. You're love for the juice really comes through in yours. Worst of all, they make me want to go out and buy more wine, which of course means, spend more money!! Thank...

Bacchus

I tried the 05 DdC about 6 or 8 months ago. It seemed a little more open then than what Robert discribes. I also think it'll go the distance. But it is a very different wine from the 04 SHL. I agree with the iron, by the way, and a fair bit of it.

Bacchus

Wait a minute!! Did I just fly by something? RobertGoulet has a new book too?!

Bacchus

Thank you David, I'm glad someone recognizes my right to first growths. :o I don't know about starting a new religion, however. That sounds more American than French! Commoners overthrowing the vino-aristocrats sounds more French. Jim could be our own modern Robespierre. Of course, that means he'll ...

Bacchus

Still, think I'll pick up the 05s instead of 08s. May even skip the 08s and wait on the 09s.

Just finished shovelling my driveway, about 4"-6". As it turns out, American snow is just as heavy as Canadian snow!

Bacchus

Do you have a particular goal in mind by raising the site's profile and/or spanking them? (bit of a disturbing image that

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Bacchus

This will be our first snow storm of the season. Hey, how often do Canadians get to complain about America sending its wintery storms up here?! :mrgreen: Too bad there isn't more going on with the Giscours, Jim. I've been thinking about picking up a few 05s. There's only a few left in the system her...

Bacchus

Do you mean you want to ask them about pricing issues? Why prices are going up so much? Will they come down again, perhaps with 2011?

Bacchus

Oh thanks, Jim, that storm is on its way here. Supposed to be here sometime tomorrow. We've been told to expect 15-20 cm. Yuck.

Bacchus

Oh oh, you've got me worried, Jeff. I'm afraid there are a number of 03s I don't care for, but I was really hoping to like 09. For me a lot of 03s has either too much caramel/praline/raisin type flavours (Clerc Milon), or are a little to flaccid (Smith Haut Lafitte). This isn't true for all 03s of c...

Bacchus

Don't apologize, Chris. We're all addicts here, :ugeek: and I for one am glad that you and Jeff have joined the conversation. One of the things I find interesting about our attempts to zero in on 09 and 10 by comparing them to one another and to earlier vintages, is that 05 has been left almost enti...

Bacchus

Nice wines, gentlemen. I haven't got all of my selections sorted out yet for 09, but so far the short list contains: d'Issan Rauzan Segla Giscours? Malescot St-Exupery Duhart Milon d'Armailhac Grand Puy Lacoste Pontet Canet Gruaud Larose? Leoville Barton? Leoville Poyferre? Saint Pierre? Dom. du Che...

Bacchus

Ya, why do ya think they call it MAINe?!

Bacchus

I'm more of a left bank person too. Indeed, I have so little right bank it's embarrassing. Maybe, if that 08 Fonrdoque turns out to be really good . . . The problem with the right bank is that there are just so many more left bank wines I want to get before, perhaps, getting a little right. Speaking...

Bacchus

I dont' think anyone is suggesting that 09 is anything less than a smashing year, and all acknowledge that it has produced many, many great wines. I will certainly be buying 09s, more so than the 08s (although I just picked up 1/2 case of the 08 LeoPoyferre :P ). Most of the problem seems to be with...

Bacchus

Gilman isn't exactly alone in his opinion, Hound. Chris Kissack makes similar remarks on his site: "So is it the Vintage of the century it was caimed to be by some almost as soon as the grapes were harvested? Well, the answer to that question is complicated. Yes, there are some stunning wines i...

Bacchus

While many critics are obviously big on 09, there have been a few cautionary voices. According to John Gilman, for example, it is inconsistant and buyers need to be selective. He also warns it might not be the vintage for those who prefer their Bdx "old school": "But 2009 is emphatica...

Bacchus

And according to what I've read, Jim, 2010 will take longer than 2009 to come around. 2010 may bests be left to those under 40, rich under 40s that is. There are a few chateaux that lowered their 2010 price from their 2009. If I recall correctly, Cos d'Estournel and Ducru Beaucaillou are amongst the...

Bacchus

Mmmmm, Bret Bros, eh?

Bacchus

I was doing some reading about PLL for anther purpose, when I came across these contradictory interpretations of the relationship between the 05 and 06 vintages. HWSRN says the 06 "blows away" the 05. In his diametrically opposed opinion, Neal Martin refers to the 06 as the lesser cousin o...

Bacchus

Couldn't help myself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjQMI6AR ... r_embedded

Bacchus

The only Ducru I've ever had was the '84, about a year ago. I hope I'm not insulting anyone, but it sucked big time!

That said, has anyone tried the 04 -- robertgoulet, Claudius, perhaps?

Bacchus

Is that your definitive note, Hound.

After reading it, can't help but wonder how LBarton is.

Bacchus

Well that's exactly how I felt about DomChev, the only 08 I've tasted so far. Balanced, and nicely so on my palate. That also seems to be John Gilman's position, and he's known for preferring a more traditional claret over the modern styles.

Bacchus

I agree, Claudius, that's got to be one of the weirdest threads I've ever read. And while I don't post on Wineberserkers, I recognize a lot of the names and they're experienced tasters! What's weird isn't that some like a wine and others don't (that would be normal), but that they can't even agree o...

Bacchus

I hate to refer to other boards, but since we've got the 08 discussion on the go, and I'm in the process of making a few buying decisions, I couldn't help but look around to see what others are saying. For some very different takes on 08, including comments from the esteemed John Gilman (which I thi...

Bacchus

So much for the early call. You're no CNN, Houndsong! Hope those lamb shanks were good -- they sure sound tasty.

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