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Bacchus

Sounds great, Chris. I look forward to reading whatever you find. Does that mean I have to wait another year before deciding on Pauillac '08?

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Waiting!!!! Impatiently so.

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Wow, Hound! I, for one, eagerly await the definitive opinion on 2008. :lol: I was wondering, Chris, if you might re-taste that cast of miscreant Pauillacs at some time? I noticed that you tasted all the ones I mentioned in my earlier posting last fall. Is it possible that since they were all the sam...

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Phooey, the only Beaulieu available here comes from Napa.

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I'm cool, Claudius. Just looking for something to chat about I guess. And I agree about sourcing a variety of vintages. There are times I want a fuller bodied wine, but there are also times I prefer something less tarted up. I have plenty of 04s -- a vintage I like a lot -- and even some 06s, to bal...

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Interesting mix of wines, Harry. I've had a number of vintages of the Balmoral, and it is certainly more restrained than what we normally think of aussie shiraz. That, I suppose, is why they call it Syrah. That same Decanter magazine that expressed disappointment with Bdx 08 is forecasting increased...

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I don't mean to start a war or words either, ChVin -- just reporting on what others are saying about 08 and seeing what the members of this board think about these "professional" judgments. I didn't write "wither," Claudius, but "whither." Mind you, they make a pretty g...

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Increasingly I find myself concerned about 2008. Early enthusiasm for the vintage is continually being rolled back. We all know that the Forever Nameless has retreated from his early high scores for the vintage. Then Chris Kissack backed off many of his original scores, even of many of the higher pr...

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He he he -- popped one of these yesterday just to try. You're right RG, very nice indeed; and certainly more traditional than the '05. Moreover, it has clearly improved on day 2, suggesting to me it can stay in bottle a little longer -- and absolutely stunning with a top sirloin steak, 'shrooms, and...

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Congratulations, Jim, on the appearance of the book. Must feel great to finally see it appear. Any characters with the initials RP?

Looking forward to reading it.

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Just wondering, Mr G, how long it took to open up after it was in glass? How's the tannins?

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Simmer down, as John Stuart might say. :D You're not the only one who likes this wine in this vintage. A couple of years back some dude on CT wrote: "This wine was drank in serious company. It was blind with 5 firsts and other very pricy Bdx neigbors and it won WOTN. This wine was seriously sho...

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"Generally speaking, if there's a decent bouquet and some initial impact, a hollow middle, and persistent, stinging acidity and tannins, it will come out all right."

Then it shall be great!

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Good to hear you're tacking left. I tried the HBL about a year and a half or two years ago. What I remember most is the tight tannins, especially on the back end. As I recall, it was also quite dry. I didn't buy any more, but I don't doubt it will even out.

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Jim, I'm normally very reserved when it comes to predicting what someone may or may not like, but after reading what you have to say about wine over the past year or so, I should think you would appreciate DomChev. I'd say it fits the category of a traditional Grave wine. I've had the 04, 05, 06 and...

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Are you buying the '09s blind, Jim? As far as I know -- those over in Europe will know better, of course -- DomChev is a long time Grave estate. And it normally gets a good response. A fellow BWEer likes it quite a bit:

http://www.greatbordeauxwines.com/Domai ... alier.html

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I picked up a few '08s a couple days ago.

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Chateau Vin, I didn't recommend any particular wines because I haven't yet tasted a single '08. Indeed, where I live they are only now starting to appear on the store shelves. And it is only in the last few weeks that people here are starting to post their initial impressions of the wines. However, ...

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I reread Jancis Robinson's comments on this wine. She tasted it twice, once in 06 and then again in 09, and on both occasions complained that it had no nose. Well how things have changed. As soon as I pulled the cork a huge nose of sweet berries filled the dining room. Who needs to drink a wine when...

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Looks like Ch Meyney fits the bill!

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Jim, sounds like '08 is at risk of becoming your second favourite vintage since 2000!

How's the '86 turn out Claret?

Anyone try, and I ask this question more for RobertGoulet than for myself, the 04?

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Our local liquor stores -- government run and mandated to serve the people of the province! -- have been out of Lafite products since they sold them all off to Chinese interests more than a year ago. So it was with some surprise that I noticed a few vintages reappearing in the system this week. But ...

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I don't use CT that way Hound. In fact, if you were to decide which wines to buy based on CT averages, you'd be no further ahead since almost anything that receives more than a dozen entries ends up with an average of somewhere between 89-91! What good is that? I'm more inclined to use CT to see how...

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I don't think I'm as good at determining how something will turn out as others are -- just not enough experience with older Bdx. That said, the development of the '05 over just a couple of days (open of course) caused me to pick a few up in order to lay them down. I noticed last week that our govern...

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Sounds like a great time. Just wondering whether anyone detected any green/bell pepper elements in the '85 Cos? It's what struck me the most about the bottle I tried last week.

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Obvious bricking as one would expect of 26 year old Bdx. Lots of aged green elements on the nose -- bell pepper, tobacco, little tea leaf, some red fruit in behind. Lovely mouth feel, soft and silky. Tannins well integrated. Lots of green pepper on the palette; tobacco and dry leaf, touch of leather...

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Oh damn, I forgot to entertain "soupy." Can someone else open up a bottle to check on soupy for Jim?

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I can't help but wonder, Claudius, is Bdx more expensive in Australia or Canada?

If you have concerns with the 98 aussies, Claudius, what about the 03s? Wasn't that the year of the great fires? And speaking of aussie wines, have you tried Castagna's wines?

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If you have these, Claudius, don't sell them off. This is a lovely wine, even at 8 yrs of age. Dark garnet red in the glass, not black or dark purple as some have reported, at least not with a clean sheet of white paper behind the glass in good daylight. Slightly paler meniscus. Classic Pauillac nos...

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Jim, I thought a group taste might be a good thing because it's obvious that some posters have been spooked a bit by the conversation I've been having with Claudius2 about '03 in general, and 03 PC in particular. Even putting aside those concerns, I thought it might be interesting to see how it's do...

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Gosh, I'm feeling a bit awkward for asking about the PC 03. I'm still quite new to this forum (approaching a year I think), and didn't know anything about PC 03 being declared WOTY. So I checked CT. Obviously what is one person's prune juice is someone else's elixir. A lot of people like it. If you'...

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Thanks for the run down, Claudius. I think our palettes dove-tail, even though they might not be identical. I don't mind wines that don't overpower my mouth and taste buds, and I appreciate subtlety, complexity, and layering. I'm quite happy with '04 and '06, for example; although I'd never turn dow...

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Very interesting, Claudius. Which leads me to a question that pulls at my heart even more than the question about '03 PC: have you tried the '03 Pichon Lalande?

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Mmmm, just how porty is the '03, Claudius? I've got a few, but haven't tasted them yet. Since I still have my receipts, I can trade them in for something else of equal value without any penalty. And while I know a lot of people like the '03 vintage, and '03 PC in particular, I haven't cared much for...

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Claudius2, you are hilarious. It's been some time since a tasting note has made laugh so. Cry certainly . . . well now we're back to the royal one, aren't we. Like David, you got me thinking about the 08s. It truly may be the last affordable vintage. But you also got me thinking about some of the ea...

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What do you mean, Stefan? I got out once, as recently as 1998.

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Thanks for the many responses folks. I too thought the term referred to a wine that was tight and austere, but with the expectation that it would in all likelihood come around. But in reading some recent notes on CT and elsewhere, it seemed to me it was being used to mean a wine made in an old style...

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I was wondering if everyone has the same impression of the word "backwards" when it is used as a descriptor in a wine tasting? Does it convey the idea of a pre-Parkerized style of wine, for example, or something else?

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Maybe not, Jim. Yesterday I heard the results of a poll done by American Express of their premium card holders: blacks, platinums etc.: everyone polled earning 6 figures or more. 65% of these people, apparently, agreed that their federal taxes should increase!! Interesting, n'est-ce pas?

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Well this is Canada, David, and prices are significantly higher up here than they are in the States. So half off up here is probably close to regular list price down there. In any event, they're on for $82/bottle (about the same as the '06 d'Issan as it turns out). Regular price, I believe, is about...

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