Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

manton

Great illustration of what I mean. The poll is predicated on a D+9 turnout advantage in a state where the D turnout advantage was +5 in 2008. So, really, it's going to DOUBLE in this cycle?

manton

And McGovern (RIP) won Mass.

manton

But he won Minnesota!

manton

WPost/ABC had it tied yesterday, Romney +1 today.

manton

If there's a pollster who is "right" with regularity a week, two weeks, three weeks before the election, then that's accomplishing something! That's not a fair metric. Polls are snapshots of the electorate at a given time. With every cylce, opinion changes more and more rapidly. So a poll...

manton

I don't know what you mean by "house." I assume you don't mean "House of Representatives" because Rasmussen called the 2010 House races closer than anyone. What I have seen since the first debate is that Rasmusses was the first pick up the Romney surge then the other polls cluste...

manton

Sigh. Guys, it really doesn't work that way.

manton

One of the nice things about being in NY is that the state is not really contested at all so I don't have to endure any political ads. At least I didn't until this week when the blitz started for two congressional races and the Connecticut Senate race. There is a Senate race in NJ too but I guess th...

manton

Christie is not supporting Obama.

manton

Just read the stuff below the topline. The polls themselves will quantify how they sampled the electorate, three numbers, D+R+I=100%, that's the predicted electorate. If D>R by 7+ points, your eyebrows should go up.

manton

Obama won independents by 8 in 2008, Romney is winning independents by double that right now. That includes in Ohio and other swing states. And, interestingly, most of the very same polls that have Obama up also show a double digit Romney advantage among independents. So one cannot just dimiss certa...

manton

OK, to answer one question above, the big difference between Gallup and Rasmussen OTOH and several others is that the others are sampling Democrats at a turnout rate of +7% or higher. That's what the electorate looked like in 2008, a wave year for Democrats and the biggest D turnout advantage since ...

manton

I just don't see any of them in this thread, which seems to be all about celebrating an impending Obama victory.

manton

Just curious, are Republicans welcome on this board?

manton

It's still kind of a gritty area and the store stands out, but it's no longer dangerous. It's an odd place for a store of that caliber, though. Funny thing: the last time was there, in their rare wine room under glass, they had all these super-rarities like 1811 d'Yquem and 1870 Lafite and so on. Bu...

manton

Funny, all the other (SF) Giants teams that made it to the WS and lost-'62, '89, '02--were absolutley stronger than this team or the 2010 team, to say nothing of other teams that did not make the series (e.g., '87) but these two teams won. Go figure.

manton

Are we talking about the store in Berkeley? I've never ordered from them online but it is fun to visit. They have very cool stuff in stock and often very good prices. I find it amazing that a store like that could exist at University and San Pablo. 20 years ago, you took your life into your hands si...

manton

Funny, my Parker radar is all over the map. The other night I had a 100 point RP wine, the 1990 Montrose. I completely mis-identified it because I assumed it had to be in a different style to have gotten 100 points from Parker, when in fact it was far more balanced and harmonious (and ready to drink...

manton

I do have a lot of options to comparison shop.

Though, I will say, prices for the 2009s are really high across the board. But I can find that wine for $40 and at the really expensive stores like Sherry-Lehman and Zachy's it's $45.

manton

$50 seems like a lot for a Drouhin village wine. Used to paying that for Lafarge, Fourrier and Bachelet (latter in off vintages only).

manton

There are definely a great many white Bords at the low end ($10-$15) that are excellent for the money. In Burg, some Macons and Petit Chablis are fine but cost more than that. B-B from a good producer will be at least $20 and it zooms up from there.

manton

Very interesting account, but the actual results, from what you wrote, seem more close run than one side spanking the other ...

manton

I really like dry white Bord, had one last night in fact. It takes on age very well.

Best CA chards IMO are not Kistler and its imitators but Ridge, Montelena, Stoney Hill and the more Burg like chards.

manton

A friend of mine had the 86 Cos about a year ago and he said it was really good. But the consensus in the room at the tasting was that nobody really liked that bottle. I actually didn't ask but nobody stuck up for the wine in general based on past tastings, they way some did for the 82

manton

OK, let me rephrase that. What are people SAYING about the 2009 Cos that caused such a stink that the winemaker felt he had to resign?

manton

What's the problem with the 09 Cos?

manton

Attended this last night. Core wines were Cos, Montrose and Calon Segur from various vintages. Also a few others, Phelan Segur, de Pez and Marbuzet. The core wines were tasted blind, which embarrassed most of us, but I will get to that. A few, we knew. So, they started with the Pez and the Phelan to...

manton

I have quite a bit of the 2005 and I don't love it. I had one bottle of the 06 which I barely remember. Should try again I guess.

manton

Food was heavily "small plates," lots of them, like 7 or so, then halibut then and braised veal shank. Red went with the latter.

manton

My recollection (again) is that Moiex first came to Napa to make Dominus and Napanook came later. Dominus started in the early '80s but Napanook was not made until, I believe, the 1996 vintage.

manton

That would be nice! Any idea which will be the first vintages to look for?

manton

I just looked this up and I guess the Daniel daughters sold it to Moiex after all. When they started in the early '80s they retained ownership of the vineyard but he made the wines. One of the ladies makes a wine called Lail which they used to source grapes from Napanook but no longer do. Ah, well, ...

manton

Because it is made by the same winemakers and it is much less expensive than Dominus. They just don't consider it a "second" wine or a Jr. wine, they consider them two distinct wines. If my recollection is right, every drop in Napanook comes from that one vineyard whereas the sourcing for ...

manton

Ch. Greysac used to be a very reliable cheapie, or near cheapie. Lots of perfume, medium bodied, very smooth ... they seem to have changed the style. The nose is very Napa now but the palate is just sort of dead and over oaked. it really does not taste like Bordeaux any more. Kind of makes me sad.

manton

stefan wrote:I know what you mean, manton. Try mixing the Martini with a lower level Bdx that lacks fruit. Sometimes that works; other times it produces a mess.

Hmmmm, a little Kurniawan action ... you know, it might have gone great with that 2005 Greysac I had last night!

manton

I also had a 07 Napanook recently, which I guess is the junior offering from the Dominus people. It's not really Dominus Jr. and the winemakers get very crabby when people say that. Napanook has an interesting history, it's one of the oldest named vineyards in the valley and was one of the core vin...

manton

I've not completely gone over, I did have a 2005 Rutherford a month or so ago that was really good.

But what scares me is that I have a lot of this Martini left. Not the 2005 thank God but later vintages. Oh well, I won't be buying any more ...

manton

OK, a slight exaggeration but ... I have, or had, always quite liked the Louis Martini basic cab. It is really the only $10 cab that is decent anymore, or so I thought. (Ah, I well remember the days when BV Rutherford was $10!) I would buy a case every year in a decent vintage, which is really every...

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I like Les Ormes Sorbet a lot but I've never had one that old. Or that vintage. I still have some 2000s somewhere, I am optimistic about those.

manton

Had some people over for "small plates" plus three formal courses. Honestly, the "small plates" concept was supposed to make everything easier but really it didn't, I'd rather have prepped and plated six sit-down courses. Anyway, a great deal of wine was consumed: 2005 Grand Bate...

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