Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

JoelD

Thank you all for the kind words and empathy. It's been quite difficult for my family and even though we (thankfully) have never had to go through anything like this before, I know that we are resilient and have faith that we'll get through it. I find some solace in the fact that he passed doing wha...

JoelD

Happy birthday, Nic! Next weekend should be the perfect 50th celebration with BWE friends and young Bordeaux!

JoelD

1970 Pichon Baron
1986 Lynch Bages
1990 Rausan Segla
2006 L'Arrosee
1985 L'Eglise Clinet

JoelD

Like GBF, there is a fellow by the name of Mr. Leve who rates it 100 points. Hey, we only live once, I say. Picked up some more 2019 Montrose today, the tax free Granite State has a TWENTY percent off sale, I'm not sure we've ever seen THAT, Gerry. Mind sharing what the prices came to for the 19 Mo...

JoelD

1998 Grange 1889 DRC Richebourg 2010 Bryant Family 1977 Krug 2014 Occidental Pinot Elizabeth Bodega Headlands 1982 Pichon Lalande 1994 Zind Humbrecht Pinot Gris Rotenberg VT 2014 Aubert Chardonnay Lauren 1976 Hugel Gewurtz VT 2007 Taittinger Comtes de Champagne I drink and love a lot of German wine...

JoelD

Should we start a pool on when Jim cracks his first bottle?

If so, the real question is whether we choose months or years...

My bet is that he can't keep his hands off at least one in 2024

JoelD

Very easily, my top 10 is coming from 2 events, London conventio and my pre-wedding day diner. It is always tough to make a selection... 1983 Cheval Blanc 1975 Petrus 1937 Pichon Comtesse de Lalande Great list, Nic. I'm glad that I got to drink many of these with you. Funny but it seems like we had...

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Happy New Year, Ian. I could see that wine drinking quite well right now. I don't think that the bottle of this that we had at our 2002 First growth table at BWE 2022 was a correct bottle. The Haut Brion, Lafite and Palmer all crushed it for me. I'll be curious to see what you think of the Palmer wh...

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I'm not surprised by this showing in the slightest. This and the Rugiens are wonderful wines that take forever to come around from Courcel. Brought the 99 to the 2022 Friday dinner and it was singing, but still very youthful. Maybe I need to try an off vintage. I have no idea when to open my 2005 of...

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I spent about 6 days over Christmas in Pompano Beach with my girlfriend and her parents who live there. We had a good time with lots of French and Romanian meals as well as plenty of French wine. I figured this would be a great time to reach out and see if it worked out to finally meet Stu and Kathy...

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Merry Christmas to everyone. Glad that the lafite turned out so well. I could see it being quite great in that vintage. Sadly all three bottles of the 86 comtesse that I’ve had, have had the same problem. Some have posed that it was a non tca bacteria in the cellar that vintage that was the issue (s...

JoelD

Merry Christmas, Nic. We missed you in DC this year. Hope to see you again in 2024. Enjoy your moose!

JoelD

2 comments: 2 2019 Margaux’s. And having 2 Montrose entries out of 5 possible choices seems a little biased, so I’d replace one of them with something like a Canon or one of the Pichon’s. Sure, I was just trying to get the ball rolling by including some wines that were mentioned during the debate. ...

JoelD

Excellent notes Joel and I can’t believe I agree with you on the top 5. And that you liked the Bruno Paillard. I brought that and was wondering why no one was drinking that beauty. I also brought the 89 Montrose and kept denying to myself saying “that’s not corked , that’s funk!” We actually agreed...

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It was great to get another successful DC convention on the books. Always lovely to catch up with the out of town BWEer's(some at two conventions in one year) Thanks to MP, Nalan, Ed for trekking across the country to meet up with many local BWE folks as well as some of our regular DC tasting friend...

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Should we round out the 5 wines to vote on then?

2020 DDC
2019 Montrose
2019 Giscours
2019 Rauzan Segla
2014 or 2016 Montrose?

Just thoughts, open to other suggestions, then one of us can put a poll up and we can vote?

JoelD

Opened the 2005 Pavie a couple of nights ago. Here's the note as promised: 2005 Pavie : Going through some 2005 right bankers. Was overwhelmingly disappointed by the Bellevue-Mondotte and thought I'd better check in on the Pavie. Cellared since release. Pop and pour, drunk over 2 days. Dark purple ...

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Has anyone tasted the La Gaffeliere yet? I've seen that at very reasonable rates from time to time. But I've been off almost all St. Emilions except for the classics with age for a while now. Hoping that de-Parkerization goes into full effect..

JoelD

No objection to 2019 Montrose here. A few other worthy 2019s to consider: 2019 Palmer 2019 Vieux Chateau Certan 2019 Rauzan Segla I'd have zero objection to the Palmer and Rauzan Segla. Good thoughts. I'd recommend picking one, and probably the Rauzan for the QPR at 1/3 of the price. I'm not yet so...

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Comte Flaneur wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:19 pm https://youtu.be/XwdhhZGhVZ8?si=MPkP2QdycSZZ5-wq

HA! Love this

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On a fun note. I just realized that there was either a BWE member or at least someone who came to one of the 2023 conventions at every single tasting for all of my top 10 wines. Very interesting. Long live BWE..

JoelD

Well you all know my nomination is the 2019 Montrose. However if we're going a bit rogue, I could nominate almost the entire 1985 vintage, but specifically Pauillac. Or the 1983 vintage honestly. My WOTY last year was the 1983 VCC and I hear the Trotanoy is even better. Might have to open one of tho...

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I think that Ian’s idea is solid in the absence. However I’d vote that he definitely needs to be part of this. I’m not sure what being across the pond has to do with this global forum?

. Should we come up with a top 3-5 options and have a vote?

JoelD

For some reason this is often my favorite topic of the year. I love seeing everyone look back at their years in review and sharing their top overall wines. Sometimes they seem so obvious, other times the wines are quite unexpected. I also have fun trying to chase down other's top wines from time to ...

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Joel, Agree there are better qpr's in Bordeaux than Sassacaia but I must say I've loved it every time I've had it going through cases of the 97-2000 with friends over the years. It has never displayed the complexities or nuances of an aged Bordeaux but it always was a crowd pleaser. I haven't bough...

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So the $50 Fortuna clearly beat the $300 Sassicaia? I have yet to have a Sassicaia that really shows something to me. But in fairness, I haven't tried that many. Think how many bottles of Bordeaux would beat that $300 2015 VCC :) Like some value 2014's that are so much more classic and accessible r...

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1998 Canon
1988 Suduiraut
1990 Rausan Segla

JoelD

I think in Jim's absence we should pick something outrageous, just to see if he swoops in with a BD edict at the last minute. :lol: Maybe Meiomi Pinot Noir - that's about as anti-BWE as you can get. HA! This is great. Well done, David. Although I think we can accomplish the same idea with something...

JoelD

2023 has easily been the best wine drinking year of my life. Exponentially. A lot of that has been due to friends that I've met on BWE or through BWE members. I even went on a 9-10 week stretch in the late spring of having at least one tasting with a BWEer every week, if not more. As great as my win...

JoelD

Bellvue Mondotte is Gerard Perse made just like Pavie and in 2005 both received the magical 3 digit score from Parker’s Richter scale, so why don’t you instead try to sell or consign them as they do have value to others. And then you can plug the dollars into something that won’t make you cringe wh...

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I think 2019 Montrose is the choice that should meet in the middle of what most want. We can always do a 2020 next year once more people have had time to try them and weigh in. I like Montrose so this is going to be a tough one to rebut so I might start out by saying that the ‘14, ‘16, ‘19 and ‘20 ...

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It's hard to fully agree with both sides of a debate but I think that both JC's and David's points are well thought out. Given the fact that last year had a 2016 as the WOTY and the year before that a 2014, we skipped 2019 (partially because a lot of people hadn't received theirs or tried them yet) ...

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I am going to restate my yearly diatribe in that I think the BWE WOTY should come from the most recent Bordeaux vintage that has come to market and in this case that means the 2020 vintage b/c otherwise I have trouble deciding from what vintage or decade one should be allowed to pick from. As such,...

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Very successful first night. Great to see the four out town BWEers. MP, Nalan, SF Ed and HarryC all made it in yesterday and we kicked off the activities with a very eclectic night of wines. Mixing in some new blood from the DC crowd along with some of the DC BWEers like WinonaChief, Marcs and barsa...

JoelD

12x 2000 Cantemerle
1x 2000 Leoville Barton
2x 1998 Talbot

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I wonder if that period should read 2005 - 2014 as I had two 14s in the last few months and both were exactly that, spoofy, parkerized, overripe and frankly, awful. Quite possibly. I have not tried the 2014 rouge. Although the white was quite good. The 2000 is still a lovely classic wine. The 2005 ...

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Anybody had the 2019 Malartic Lagravière? I thougjt that was a very solid, complex, convincing red Pessac. Montrose and Lynch Bages are also amazing in 2019... And 2019 d'Issan made a good impression in London. I think the Montrose clearly beat the Lynch right now and probably in the future. I like...

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I think that the 2019 Montrose should definitely be in the running. After that we could look at some 2016s as well.

JoelD

So the 2005 Léoville Barton not ready? I can stand that as I always thought 2005 was a great vintage, but best wines would need minimum 30 years… as the regular regional Bordeaux can probably make 10-12 years easily. One wine I thought was ok to drink from 2005 is Lagrange, that is not as concentra...

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