Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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Now that my birthday has finally arrived ' I will be leaving you, I trust, but not without one "last" message a bit later. rthomaspaull

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Tim: I am trying hard not to call you a S.O.T.E., and you are peobably not one, but I find it increasingly hard not to think privately that you are. You have certainly annoyed me far more than anyone on the Berserkers, which is saying a lot. JH seems to have a much better impression of you than I do...

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To greatbxfreak: kindly stop your thoroughly detestable messages, and stop reading mine. People on this forum like you and Tim seem worse than anyone on Wine Berserkers. BWE is not nearly as polite as it pretends, and I question how JH is doing (or not doing) his job. To Blanquito: Mesvaline is an i...

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To Blanquito: as far as I am concerned I do not at present feel any sorrow. Later, who knows? rthomaspaull

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To Blanquito: It is (nearly) always nice to find someone with a sense of humor. As a matter of fact, I rounded to hundreds of a point one rating (by Parker) that was really 5 one-thousands of a point because I was unsure of which of 2 alternative figures of Parker''s to use. rthomaspaull

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TO Tim: Before I read your posts I loved BWE. Now I am glad to be leaving it, in fact thanks to you and a few others (to a much lesser extent) at least as glad as I am to be leaving Wine Berserkers. At least I have found a website where they are never rude (of course it is not a wine forum) and I ca...

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To Chris F. : The 2012 Alter Ego is of bottom first growth quality at 92.5 in Margaux, while the 2012 Rauzan-Segla at 94.5 is noticeably better.

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As a parting "gift" I will give my opinion about sensible pricing for wines of low or very low first growth quality for 2016. Of the combined list "second " growths only Pare Clement and (easily) Grand-Puy-Lacoste clearly make it, while Leoville Poyferre and Haut-Bailly are borde...

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To Jay Winton: I personally only rate wines to half a point. The combined lists, essentially by Robert Parker are averages, and so can be within .05 (a twentieth of a point), but they are not at all my ratings. rthomaspaul

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To Chris F,
As its you I will reply. Neither of th e 2nd wines in my preamble made my {really RP's) lists. La Dame de Montrose was a low 2nd in m system in 2010, and
Alter ego de Palmer was a low first (!) in 2012. rthomaspaull

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Part 6: Herewith is the combined list of "fifth growths" (minimum score 85.5) in descending order: D'Angludet 86.9 Siran 86.4 Meyney 86.3 Batailley and Les Ormes de Pez 86.25 (Marquis de Terme just misses at 85.45) I am very glad to say that I have found a website far better suited to my n...

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To greatbxfreak: Je m'en fiche. Part 5. Herewith is the combined list of "fourth growths" (minimum score 87.0) in descending order: D'Issan 88.45 Brane Cantenac 88.4 De Fieuzal and Langoa Barton 88.35 Du Tertre and Gloria 88.25 Lafon Rochet 88.2 Haut-Bages-Liberal 88.15 Giscours 88.05 Gran...

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Part 4, Herewith is the combined list of "third growths" {minimum score 88.5) in descending order: Saint Pierre 90.35 Duhart Milon 90.2 Sociando Mallet 90.15 Les Forts de Latour and Rauzan-Segla 90.1 Calon Segur 90.05 Branaire Ducru 89.85 Clerc Milon 89.8 Malescot-Saint-Exupery 89.65 Gruau...

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Part 3. Herewith is the combined list of "second growths" (minimum score 90.5) in descending order: Cos D'Estournel 92.75 Montrose 92.55 Ducru-Beaucaillou 92.35 Palmer 92.05 Pichon Lalande 92.0 Leoville Poyferre and Pape Clement 91.8 Pichon Baron 91.7 Pontet Canet 91.6 Leoville Barton 91.4...

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Part 2. Herewith is the combined list of "first growths" (minimum score 93.0) in descending order: Lafite-Rothschild 95.15 Latour 94.9 Haut Brion and Margaux 94.65 Leoville Las Cases 94.45 La Mission Haut Briony 93.5 Mouton-Rothschild 93.4 rthomaspaulll

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The "gremlin" that destroys my posts is really working overtime. My "system" for "classifying " left bank red Bordeaux wines of a given year depending on that year's Wine Advocate Vintage Rating (W.A.V.R.) for its sub-area can produce apparently anomalous results. THe W...

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To Chris F.: Please read my answer 6 to Tim. I am sorry if I did not help you, as I wanted to do.

To Jckba: Very many thanks. I love your suggestion and will try to follow it. Best, rthomaspaull

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To Nicklasss: It is not my opinion about Lynch Bages (I have doubts) but Parker's averaged rating . I am not good about detailed descriptions about wine but lately have enjoyed the 2009 and 2010 Gloria, the 2010 D'Armailhac, the 2010 Cantemerle and on trying out the 2015 Malartic Lagraviere Rouge, t...

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To Comte Flaneur: I agree with Parker's rankings (except about Gruaud Larose) more than I do with yours, but that is largely meaningless because you have had far more chateaux of left bank red Bordeaux than I have. Tenths of a point? Mark squires?? rthomaspaull

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To Tim: I am not a fraud. In at least one sense you are trolling me. Your opinion is REALLY unimportant to me. !. Lousy computer skills. 2. OK by me. 3,4,5. I could not find references to it either (it was only on the internet for a few years) and it was lucky that I printed it out. As the scores we...

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To Tim: I do not go on video except to friends and family. Please define trolling (I have some idea but could be wrong: I don't do it on purpose). To Chris F. : Many thanks for another kind post. You have been very helpful to me and I will miss you, as I should have posted before this. My apologies....

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I have decided to give myself an early birthday present by essentially stopping posting to or looking at posts from wine forums. It is clear that they and I are really ill suited to each other. As I often agree with Robert Parker (horrors) I will happily go with Grundeken and my subsequent studies. ...

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To Tim: Are you the least polite person on BWE? I am afraid that you might be more suited to Wine Berserkers, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I have no intention of giving you further information about myself other than to say it is a few days before I will be 87,' that I am in tempora...

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For 3 of 5 to be second growths, in descending order from the "combined lists" [which have 14 seconds] that I have posted one would get Cos D'Estournel, Leoville Barton and Lynch Bages. Leoville Barton demands more patience than I have at my age, except for older, over-priced vintages. Goo...

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To DavidG : I am sorry but the only copy I have of "Grundeken" is a tattered one that I printed out in 2007. It would frankly be too much trouble for me to send all of it, but the bottom scores for each growth classification were in descending order 92.5, 90.0', 88.0, 86.5, and 85.0 . For ...

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To Comte Flaneur: Many thanks for your post. RT, as used by JH, is fine. I really admire your reclassification (will there be 5th growths?) and regret that price has prevented my trying many of the top wines. My major difference with Parker is about Gruaud Larose. I have some but still limited exper...

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Some Napa Valley Cabs (e,g, Shafer). I used to drink Chateau Montelena (?) cabs and Chards, Sta. Rita Hills PNs (and Chards, e.g. Brewer Clifton), used to drink Oregon PNs, Chateau Ste. Michelle Chard & Sauv. Blanc, good bargains Hogue wines, Margerum Sybarite and Brander Sauv. Blancs, My wife (...

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To Comte Flaneur: My deepest apologies for posting about what are essentially Robert Parker's choices for first through fifth growths (starting in 1982) under what I consider your brilliant "Rethinking the left bank classification", which I feel sure will be far more welcomed by BWE member...

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To DavidG: Many thanks for yet another kind post. "Grundeken" was a mid-2004 (I think) article no longer on the internet that I call "Grundeken" because grundeken was part of its internet address. The article was called "Reclassifying Bordeaux Using Wine Advocate Ratings&quo...

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(logging in can be a real pain, though I think it was my fault this time), Margerum Sybarite Sauvignon Blanc and various Santa Rita Hills Pinot Noirs (and some Chardonnays). A few Napa Valley Cabs. rthomaspaull

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To Chris F.: While $100 may be a good price for the 2012 Lynch Bages, under my sensible pricing guidelines you would have to score it at 95 (or above) to make it a reasonable buy (judging by other's scores this seems unlikely, but who knows?) I really liked the 2012 Rauzan Segla when I tasted it and...

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I think Comte Flaneur, who has great experience with many chateaux that I have seldom if ever tasted, has done a great job with this subject. I think his version is much more likely than Parker's to appeal to the majority of BWE members. As I have tasted few of the same wines as Comte Flaneur, and s...

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To Claudius 2: I went more for a high QPR than for the higher scoring and more expensive wines for those great years, getting rather more of 2010 than 2009. When I tried the more expensive wines i was slightly disappointed, as to me they were not much better than the ones I bought at considerably lo...

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I do realize that many do not share the tastes of Robert Parker, though he was very influential and was followed by many. I have only had a tiny fraction of the wines he has tasted, but the average of our scores for these is very similar. The lists I have posted were all his, except for 2014 by Neal...

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Herewith is a combined list of "fifth growths" (minimum score 85.5) in descending order: D'Angludet 86.9 Siran 86.4 Meyney 86.3 Batailley and Les Ormes-de-Pez 86.25 (Marquis-de-Terme just misses at 85.45) I hope that's all. rthomaspaull

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Herewith is a combined list of "fourth growths" (minimum score 87.0) in descending order: D'Issan 88.45 Brane Cantenac 88.4 De Fieuzal and Langoa Barton 88.35 Du Tertre and Gloria 88.25 Lafon Rochet 88.2 Haut-Bages-Liberal 88.15 Giscours 88.05 Grand -Puy-Ducasse and Prieure Lichine 87.95 D...

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Herewith is a combined list of "third growths" (minimum score 88.5) in descending order: Saint Pierre 90.35 Duhart Milon 90.25 Sociando Mallet 90.15 Les Forts de Latour and Rauzan Segla 90.1 Calon Segur 90.05 Branaire Ducru 89.85 Clerc Milon 89.8 Malescot-Saint-Exupery 89.65 Gruaud Larose ...

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Here is the combined list of "second growths" (miinimum score 90,5), in descending order: Cos D'Estournel 92.75 Montrose 92.55 Ducru Beaucaillou 92.35 Palmer 92.05 Pichon Lalande 92.0 Leoville Poyferre and Pape Clement 91.8 Pichon Baron 91.7 Pontet Canet 91.6 Leoville Barton 91.45 Lynch Ba...

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As it is a lot of work (though basically quite simple) I am going to post the results of combining Grundeken at equal weights with my 2002-14 (excl. 2013) study {all scores by Robert Parker except 2014 by Neal Martin) "bit by bit". I have very limited experience with all but a few chateaux...

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I know very little about the law, but congratulations JH ! rthomaspaull

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