Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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I do want to pick up Montrose & LLC, but won't be buying en-primeur this year...will wait to taste it after bottling. Can't understand the "great freshness" either tbh, unless the article on wine-searcher is pointing to the obvious answer https://www.wine-searcher.com/m/2023/05/bordeau...

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Fine+Rare have a comparison as well this year, https://www.frw.co.uk/campaign/en-primeur/bordeaux-2022/critic-score-comparison, as do Liv-ex https://www.liv-ex.com/news-insights/bordeaux-en-primeur-2022-critic-scores/. The acclaim for Cheval Blanc is pretty unanimous, definitely a contender for wine...

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3 * Jamet Côte Rôtie 2017

I have some reservation on this vintage...I've see mixed notes, but the price was more than fair.

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1 x Calon Segur 2014
3 x GPL 2016
3 x Montrose 2019
2 x Leoville Barton 2019
1 x Rauzan Selga 2019
1 x Leoville Poyferre 2019
1 x VCC 2020

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https://www.farrvintners.com/blog/post.php?post=1180

Southwold on Thames tasting of the 2004 vintage, 10 years on. Maybe a bit dated now given it was 9 years ago. Not much in the way of personal experience to share re Bordeaux 04 unfortunately. Happy Hunting

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"Off" vintages, in the context of the question, would include 2017, 2012, 2011, 07, 02, 99, 97, 94, 93, etc. I wouldn't include 1991, 92 or 2013 for instance, which were all round appalling. Nor would I include the likes of 2014, 08, 06, 04, which were moderately successful, in some appell...

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Seeking the wisdom from the esteemed forum members
At the title suggests, which chateau's generally outperform expectations in so called "off-vintages"?

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Ognik wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 8:39 am No need to trade 19 LB for 89.
Think 19 LB is/ will be a better wine.

Not according to the esteemed Mr Kelley: "Lynch Bages '19 is on the level of 2010 and 2000 (the best bottles) but not on the level of 1989."
Only one man's opinion of course!

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Be prepared for 2020 vintage. I've already tasted some big and small and this vintage ticks all the boxes and more!! I’m sad that i did not buy any 2019 Calon Ségur… but glad I bought some 2020! The 2019 CS ABV is not too far off 15%...don't be too upset missing it. The 2020 is almost a percent low...

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Another take here from Joss Fowler: https://www.vinolent.net/2023/01/26/201 ... on-thames/

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Ladies & Gentlemen, I present to you the first two-time winner of The Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts William "Stefan" Johnson Wine of the Year, Calon Segur 2014.

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Mark, you're one lucky fellow. A truly outstanding tasting.
To think two of those wines are 70+ years old...and both 100 pointers to boot...wow!

I've yet to try an aged example, but have 14, 16 & 19 lying in wait.

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DavidG wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:26 pm What’s the story behind the π in the name?

3.14 are the first three digits of pi. And this wine comes from the Cote du Py.

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I've been reading with great jealously all the plans afoot for this coming weekend. Sorry I won't be able to join you all, but hopefully we'll get to meet soon. BWE London 2023!!! Joel, congratulations on all the planning for this event. I've organised a few large events in a previously life and kno...

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Hello Everyone, For those who have tasted the 2019 vintage, how does the alcohol levels feel? I think a lot of the 2018's have a "hot" chatacter to them...does this happen with the 2019 wines? For some reason I remember reading somewhere about the 2019's also suffering from this, despite ...

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Some very great information...thank you all! I was looking at picking up three of each: Gruaud Larose - 13.6% d'Issan - 13.3% d'Armailhac - 13.5% I feel much more comfortable on these purchases after the responses. Great choices, can't go wrong with any of these. Other's in around the same ABV are ...

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Interesting that DDC was only 13% in 2019 especially as this estate has championed a more international style in the last 20 years - is this a pivot back to trying to replicate the great classic DDCs of four decades ago? I definitely think so Ian. The commentary from critics would support this, in ...

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Some of the lowest ABV wines on the other hand: Lafite-Rothschild Pauillac 13.40% les Carmes Haut-Brion Pessac-Léognan 13.30% le Petit Mouton de Mouton-Rothschild Pauillac 13.00% Domaine de Chevalier Pessac-Léognan 13.00% I'm sure there are others that are just as low, I didn't get to everything....

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Highest ABV for the 2019 vintage - not a complete list by any means. Can be hard to find official figures for all estates, and indeed I've came across conflicting information for many wines. Faugères Cuvée Péby St-Emilion GC 15.50% Quintus St-Emilion GC 15.50% Haut-Brion Pessac-Léognan 15.00% la Vi...

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Has this just been a label change or is this a different wine? Same wine Jim...name was changed from Marquis de Calon (2012 last vintage) to Le Marquis de Calon Segur (2013 vintage). The estate refers to it as their Second Wine, but I understand that the majority comes from the same plot's year aft...

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Compared to 18, I feel they have less power, and the alcohol even though less, is some times more evident. Just my thoughts. That's interesting Dan...I went deep on 2019, mainly due to pricing and perceived quality, but now I'm not so sure. I see a lot of notes pointing to the "lower" ABV...

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Taking advantage of the collapsing pound; mind you would prefer to be buying with US Dollars rather than Euro

2*L'Eglise Clinet 2016 - £240 / €270
2 Canon 2018 - £108 / €121

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Anyone have any thoughts on my question as to whether the 2016 Figeac is actually a good wine? Or whether Robert's trashing of recent Figeac as having sold out to the dark side for classification is justified? Based on a recent blind tasting ( https://www.farrvintners.com/blog/post.php?post=1736 ),...

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I use decanter cleaning beads, something like https://www.amazon.com/Simtive-Decanter ... 307&sr=8-3

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I mean, we HAVE tasted a nice Lascombes here and there, no? To me, as much as I'm down on Lynch Bages, the most overrated wine in Bordeaux is Grand Puy Lacoste. I'll never forget that afternoon Nicola and I were in MacArthur's, and Phil Bernstein, without any leading whatsoever, said that GPL had b...

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Grosset is the most well regarded producer but there are many good producers. Thanks Mark. Does Aussie Riesling age well, in general of course? I'll check out Grosset...I can get the Polish Hill Riesling for around €40 a bottle locally, which seems reasonable. I see that Gosset also produce a well ...

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2 * 2016 Figeac 750ml

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Having said that, I think that except for Burgundy, Australia makes the best Chardonnay in the world and with no exceptions the best Riesling. We even make the occasional top Pinot Noir. Just not too often. I will admit I haven't had much Australian Riesling Mark, but I've had a fair amount of Germ...

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Nicklasss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 1:53 pm More 2012 Château le Vivier, at 20 $. Insane!

Latour 2014. Also insane! at the opposite end of the scale

Don't normally make splurge purchases like this, but I managed to nab one at €530 all in. A relative bargain.

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Musigny 151 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 5:37 pm What is traceability?

Traceability of wine can be defined as a method through which anybody in the wine supply chain can be able to verify the origin and composition of wines and its conditions of storage.

Or so Google tells me!!

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I have never felt that the Saint Emilion was anything but a complete waste of time. To make it seem updated, they have included some pretty strange criteria including parking and social media prescence. (How Ausone got its A classification with such lousy parking is beyond me) 😀 And yet again, they...

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Any predictions Alex? Other than controversy, which has become the norm. I think most of the controversy has already happened. Château Angélus, Château Ausone, Château Cheval Blanc have all opted out...Ausone and Cheval Blanc noses out of joint to be in the same Category as Pavie and Angélus, and A...

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Smoke Taint much be a real fear this year. I know some appellations will be impacted more than others, but smoke can travel an awful long way from the source. https://www.wine-searcher.com/m/2022/08/smoke-threatens-to-choke-bordeaux Hard to be too excited about 2022, given the above and the massive ...

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Another vote for London 2023!

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Nicklasss wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:47 pm On the Right Bank : Troplong Mondot.

TM has been dialled back pretty significantly since the 17 vintage...by agreed, it had the turbochargers activated since the turn of the century.

Lascombes in the Medoc, Pavie on the right bank.

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AlexR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:51 pm Did you find a photo?

Thought it was strange myself to be honest...don't think I've seen other examples other than Montrose. It's dropped off of more recent vintages.

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Ambrose wrote: ↑Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:57 pm Have you seen the ‘red obsession’ documentary?

No Ambrose, is it worth a watch? That's the one that Russell Crowe narrates?

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In a different vein, I do not believe that any Médoc château lists its actual classification on the label, limiting the wording to “grand cru classé”. Things are not the same in Saint Emilion, where several châteaux put “premier cru classé”. However, I don’t think any of these have “A” or “B” along...

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Conor, very interesting comments from Farr. I bought a fair amount of 2019s en primeur since they seemed a good bargain. Since then most of my purchases have been 2016s. Interesting for sure. Commentary from a retailer always has to be taken with a pinch of salt I find, but they are very bullish co...

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