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Re: What is (are) your favourite vintage(s) of Pichon Baron?

2000 and 1989 for drinking now.
2010 for the future.
2016????
by DavidG
on Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:46 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: What is (are) your favourite vintage(s) of Pichon Baron?
Replies: 8
Views: 128

Re: Two disappointments: 1998 Pape & 2004 Selbach-Oster Spatlese

Agree, it sucks when wines don't live up to expectations. But not too many German Rieslings will stand up to the memory of a well-aged 2001 JJ Prum.
by DavidG
on Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:28 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Two disappointments: 1998 Pape & 2004 Selbach-Oster Spatlese
Replies: 10
Views: 141

Re: What is your favourite vintage of Sociando-Mallet?

The only Sociando in my cellar is the 2000. Love the one you're with...
by DavidG
on Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:24 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: What is your favourite vintage of Sociando-Mallet?
Replies: 16
Views: 241

Re: Best QPR wines from each appellation?

Seeing some of the votes for Prieure Lichine and D'Issan I have to say that was a tough call for me vs. Du Tertre.
by DavidG
on Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:52 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Best QPR wines from each appellation?
Replies: 21
Views: 381

Re: Shipping

Jon, my father was an executive with Parke-Davis until the '70s and worked downtown. I visited his office a few times. Went downtown riverside on July 4 to watch the fireworks a few times. We lived at 8 mile and Livernois, moved to the suburbs in 1965. I've never been to the Rattlesnake Club but hav...
by DavidG
on Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:53 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Shipping
Replies: 14
Views: 311

Re: Winona Chief and Marjorie arrive at BWE Mecca in Maine.

Well done! Not to take anything away from the wines, but everything goes better with a beautiful day and great friends.

And Jim, it looks like you do like aged wines with some complexity.
by DavidG
on Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:57 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Winona Chief and Marjorie arrive at BWE Mecca in Maine.
Replies: 11
Views: 201

Re: Shipping

I've dealt with the Illinois obstacle for the past several years. Having just recently moved to Michigan, I was hoping I had left that headache behind. Sadly, it sounds like that is not the case. To complicate matters, wine options in Chicago were far superior to what I'm finding in the metro Detro...
by DavidG
on Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:52 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Shipping
Replies: 14
Views: 311

Re: Best QPR wines from each appellation?

My list is almost identical to Jacques':

Graves: Haut Bailly
Margaux: Du Tertre
St Julien: Gloria
Pauillac: Haut Bages Liberal
St Estephe: Lafon Rochet
St Emilion: Barde Haut
Pomerol: Rouget (the 1982 was my first ever Pomerol. Ups & downs since but I like its QPR)
by DavidG
on Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:35 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Best QPR wines from each appellation?
Replies: 21
Views: 381

Re: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre

Good perspective/explanation Ian. Thanks.
by DavidG
on Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:17 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre
Replies: 26
Views: 376

Re: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre

I think he came in around 1995. The 1995 Poyferre was a pretty unfriendly wine a decade or more ago. BA used to have in business class and it was a curmudgeonly beast. Someone sold me a couple of mags of 1994 for a song...I can see why he wanted to get rid of them...the wine was emaciated. So there...
by DavidG
on Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:01 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre
Replies: 26
Views: 376

Re: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre

When did Rolland start pulling the strings at Poyferre?
by DavidG
on Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:59 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre
Replies: 26
Views: 376

Re: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre

Yeah that doesn't sound right Jacques. And not a particular characteristic of the vintage, either.
by DavidG
on Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:05 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre
Replies: 26
Views: 376

Re: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre

Most of those descriptors sound about right for a shut down 5 yo Bordeaux, though heavy extraction is worrisome. I'll quote Blanquito and say it needs 5 years. Maybe 10. Then again, if it's not giving you any hope for the future, no point in keeping it.
by DavidG
on Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:52 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2012 Leoville Poyferre
Replies: 26
Views: 376

Re: Canadian ER (NWR)

Glad you are OK. Sorry for Lucie's unpleasant experience.
by DavidG
on Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:07 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Canadian ER (NWR)
Replies: 9
Views: 129

Re: 1855 keep as is?

Same take here. Not sure it would be possible to do a truly valid classification. How do you define quality? So default to price. And then what time frame would you look around? The classification is less relevant in today"s information-rich environment, where ratings can be disseminated within...
by DavidG
on Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:14 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 1855 keep as is?
Replies: 20
Views: 331

Re: 2010 Canteloup

Does it go well with prosciutto?
by DavidG
on Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:55 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2010 Canteloup
Replies: 11
Views: 129

Re: Why Futures?

Peggy actually asked if I thought we'd be alive to enjoy the 2016s before she gave the thumbs up. I said sure, we can just How them...

Plus I got a good deal of enjoyment out of just buying them.

If I get hit by a bus, it's all on CellarTracker, with a separate spreadsheet of undelivered futures.
by DavidG
on Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:40 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Why Futures?
Replies: 14
Views: 272

Re: is 2009 a weak vintage?

So I opened a 2009 Cantemerle. The bottle says 13% ABV. After 2-3 hours it's showing a nose of dark fruits, tobacco and earth. Medium body, ripe fruit, good balance and finish. Still young but giving a lot of pleasure. Excellent. Some modern and some traditional characteristics. Not weak or thin. Gl...
by DavidG
on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:45 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: is 2009 a weak vintage?
Replies: 119
Views: 8633

Re: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?

My first Prieure Lichine was the 1983. I ended up with 2 cases of it and have bought the wine on and off every few vintages. Often very good but not great, and at times an excellent value.
by DavidG
on Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:38 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?
Replies: 144
Views: 4476

Re: is 2009 a weak vintage?

This made me go back to Jim's first post, where he questioned the quality of the entire vintage based on a single bottle of Sociando. Just as that single poor experience is hardly representative, neither is a single great bottle. But I'm very happy to read of your excellent experience, Nic, as it ma...
by DavidG
on Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:36 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: is 2009 a weak vintage?
Replies: 119
Views: 8633

Re: Why Futures?

Peer pressure. It's Ian's fault.
by DavidG
on Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:30 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Why Futures?
Replies: 14
Views: 272

Re: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?

I was tempted by Prieure Lichine but didn't pull the trigger.
by DavidG
on Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:49 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?
Replies: 144
Views: 4476

Re: is 2009 a weak vintage?

Mark, I'm shifting gradually towards less tolerance of the super-ripe high alcohol wines, and I agree it doesn't seem to matter whether they are from Bordeaux, Barossa, the Rhone or California. I too have a passel of 2009 Bordeaux and hope they turn out well. Arv, I guess you would say your experien...
by DavidG
on Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:47 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: is 2009 a weak vintage?
Replies: 119
Views: 8633

Re: Did we lose a generation of great Bordeaux because of RMP?

Nice summary Mark. I think you've nailed the two-phased effect Parker had on winemaking. I'm not sure it's possible to point to a specific year where the switch went on and everyone suddenly began making better wine in cleaner facilities. More like a phase-in over the late eighties to early nineties...
by DavidG
on Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:05 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Did we lose a generation of great Bordeaux because of RMP?
Replies: 22
Views: 449

Re: How do you prefer your Sauternes?

Cold and often sounds good to me too. And with a day or three in the fridge after opening if they can avoid our gullets for that long.

As to age, I like them young, love them middle-aged (as they turn gold and early copper), but don't like them old (fully copper to brown or dark caramel/chocolate).
by DavidG
on Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:50 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: How do you prefer your Sauternes?
Replies: 22
Views: 504

Re: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?

Pichon Baron
Haut Bailly
Canon
Figeac
Tour St Christophe (the only one that's a total unknown but cheap enough to take a flyer based on hype)

I'll How a few of them on arrival and hope I live long enough to enjoy them in their prime.
by DavidG
on Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:40 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?
Replies: 144
Views: 4476

Re: Ouch

A wine that good can turn your world upside-down.
by DavidG
on Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:50 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Ouch
Replies: 10
Views: 163

Re: Did we lose a generation of great Bordeaux because of RMP?

You want to blame Parker? No way.

It's Obama's fault.
by DavidG
on Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:46 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Did we lose a generation of great Bordeaux because of RMP?
Replies: 22
Views: 449

Re: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?

I haven't bought any wine since Thanksgiving. 226 days. No Bordeaux younger than 2012, and those only due to BWE arm twisting. Until today. I'd been resisting and resisting. Then along came Ian's write up, and I could feel myself weakening. Ultimately it was Peggy, though, who encouraged me to take ...
by DavidG
on Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:35 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?
Replies: 144
Views: 4476

Re: Impressions of 2016 Bordeaux

Dammit Ian, you are my new Robert Parker.
by DavidG
on Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:59 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Impressions of 2016 Bordeaux
Replies: 23
Views: 523

Re: Gerry, Albert...

Good deal, Michael. At today's rates I think it might cost you a dime.
by DavidG
on Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:53 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Gerry, Albert...
Replies: 3
Views: 134

Re: Tasting of 25 great Médocs from the 2014 vintage

Claudius, my experience mirrors yours. I bought a case (a lot for me). I have had a couple of bottles that showed well in recent years but nowhere near as powerful as the ones consumed shortly after release. I've still got most of them left and am just sitting on them hoping that they will open up. ...
by DavidG
on Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:53 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Tasting of 25 great Médocs from the 2014 vintage
Replies: 8
Views: 296

Re: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?

Pavie at $355 here in the US is bad enough. But C$695? That makes no sense even at the current exchange rate.
by DavidG
on Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:20 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?
Replies: 144
Views: 4476

Re: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?

The short version as I understand it is that the producers have taken all the price appreciation that used to be inherent in en primeur purchases for themselves.
by DavidG
on Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:34 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?
Replies: 144
Views: 4476

Re: Top 3 Communes

At the risk of being banned by Jim for listing a right-bank commune first (he pronounce the RB not even Bordeaux!):

Pomerol
Graves
Pauillac. No, St Julien. No, Pauillac. No...
by DavidG
on Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:56 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Top 3 Communes
Replies: 17
Views: 375

Re: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?

Macarthur's just came out with 2016 Clinet at $95/btl. I no longer have WS Pro so can't compare to other offers, but this one is tempting.
by DavidG
on Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:41 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?
Replies: 144
Views: 4476

Re: Chateau Notton, Margaux

I heard that even when it's on, it's Notton.

Seriously, though, never heard of it.
by DavidG
on Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:01 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Chateau Notton, Margaux
Replies: 3
Views: 109

Re: Shameless Hucksterism: Online Auction at Zachys

Damn, I'm tempted to come out of wine buying retirement...
by DavidG
on Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:03 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Shameless Hucksterism: Online Auction at Zachys
Replies: 10
Views: 266

Re: Next question...

I haven't had enough vintages of Mouton to offer a broad experience-based opinion, but I would agree with SFEd that other than the 1982, Mouton lacks the depth and complexity of the other firsts.
by DavidG
on Sun May 28, 2017 6:45 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Next question...
Replies: 7
Views: 191

Re: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?

If I were buying, these would be on my radar. Mostly wines I'm very familiar with except Figeac and Canon, which I've had only a few times. Left Bank Calon Segur Cos Beychevelle Grand Puy Lacoste (in honor of Jim) Haut Brion (if I hit the lottery) Lynch Bages Montrose Right Bank Angelus (price is no...
by DavidG
on Sun May 28, 2017 6:39 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2016 Bordeaux futures - anyone biting?
Replies: 144
Views: 4476
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