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Re: Video: Tasting at Pontet Canet

It looks like you were all having a great time.

Safe travels home everyone.
by DavidG
on Sat May 23, 2015 8:27 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Video: Tasting at Pontet Canet
Replies: 7
Views: 102

Re: First part of day 3

Nic, I am thoroughly enjoying your reports on the visits. Thank you for taking the time to write them up and post them.
by DavidG
on Sat May 23, 2015 8:26 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: First part of day 3
Replies: 4
Views: 47

Re: Video: Bill, Jan and the crew at La Lagune tasting.

I am loving these videos! Great to see the gang in action!

I know you didn't taste it during this visit, but how is the 2009 La Lagune and how does it compare with the 2010 and 2012?
by DavidG
on Wed May 20, 2015 8:36 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Video: Bill, Jan and the crew at La Lagune tasting.
Replies: 7
Views: 111

Re: First half of first day

Well done Nic! Thank you.
by DavidG
on Wed May 20, 2015 4:31 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: first day
Replies: 6
Views: 114

Re: An evening in Paris with Francois Audouze.

RG - those are the empties. The full bottles are elsewhere. Either Jim's phone died before he could get pictures of the full bottles, or the contents of Francois' cellar is a matter of national security.
by DavidG
on Tue May 19, 2015 9:30 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: An evening in Paris with Francois Audouze.
Replies: 17
Views: 262

Re: BWE has landed in the motherland.

And they're off! Wish I were there with you. Love seeing the pictures. Looking forward to some TNs when you have time to catch up.
by DavidG
on Mon May 18, 2015 11:40 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: BWE has landed in the motherland.
Replies: 46
Views: 474

Re: An evening in Paris with Francois Audouze.

Send my regards to Francois and to the rest of the gang.

Just don't serve any of this stuff:
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by DavidG
on Sun May 17, 2015 7:52 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: An evening in Paris with Francois Audouze.
Replies: 17
Views: 262

Re: An evening in Paris with Francois Audouze.

That was a fun interview with Francois. Looks like he's lost some weight. So those were pics of the empties. What did the cellar with the full bottles look like? Does he still have cellars in various different cities? I had 1961 Hermitage La Chapelle once. It was a great bottle but not in my top 5. ...
by DavidG
on Sun May 17, 2015 6:09 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: An evening in Paris with Francois Audouze.
Replies: 17
Views: 262

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

It takes time to make convincing counterfeits of top 2009 Bordeaux, especially mags. :o
by DavidG
on Sat May 16, 2015 12:04 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

Arv's explanation seems like the only logical one.. ...but... ...but... ...but... How do they keep making the right bets year after year after year? I know they don't have to be right all of the time, just enough to stay solvent. But they kept their heads above water while fulfilling 2005 Bordeaux o...
by DavidG
on Thu May 14, 2015 9:52 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Au revoir mes amis

Bon voyages! Wish I were going with you.
by DavidG
on Thu May 14, 2015 12:23 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Au revoir mes amis
Replies: 10
Views: 121

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

I'll defer to the lawyers here, but Michael I'm not sure that you'd be successful in a suit if PC offers to give you back the money you spent in lieu of the wine. Proving damages due to lost opportunity on wine futures purchases sounds good on the internet but I'm skeptical of its likelihood of succ...
by DavidG
on Wed May 13, 2015 5:23 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

I agree Patrick. Amazing that there's been no insider info on what they actually do. If there's something nefarious going on it's got to be the best kept secret since the Manhattan Project. Maybe it's a cult...
by DavidG
on Tue May 12, 2015 8:27 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

My experience and outlook are almost identical to Patrick's. My biggest worry was for 2005s that spiked in price after I ordered them, concurrent with the financial crisis. I've never been shorted, but I've become less tolerant of the wait. Plus all the cries of "scam" are probably weighin...
by DavidG
on Tue May 12, 2015 2:43 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

No one calling PC's business practices illegal has any evidence other than the length of time it takes to get the wine and speculation. Almost everything gets delivered eventually. My impression from following the PC threads on different boards is that you may be at higher risk with mags. But if you...
by DavidG
on Mon May 11, 2015 8:19 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

Patrick, a significant number of my PC steals are no longer recoverable. Jay, I didn't hear MichaelP say he'd had trouble obtaining or that he'd even asked for a refund, but that he wanted the darn wine. If it did come to a credit card dispute, I've heard stories covering a wide range of responses f...
by DavidG
on Sat May 09, 2015 5:29 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: So u want a wine that tastes like Bordeaux???

I would give this a spin but don't see it available anywhere around here.
by DavidG
on Sat May 09, 2015 5:21 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: So u want a wine that tastes like Bordeaux???
Replies: 6
Views: 80

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

So a quick read of the link to the California law and the PC website, which does say "pre-arrivals are wines we have purchased" does raise the question of deception if they really haven't purchased the wines. I suppose a slick DC lawyer could have some fun with the meaning of "purchas...
by DavidG
on Sat May 09, 2015 12:42 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

I hear you Jim. I honestly don't know if what they are doing would be considered illegal and they just haven't been caught because they haven't defaulted enough to have complaints. Or if, as I am inclined to believe, they are above-board with an unusual business model that's at greater risk for fail...
by DavidG
on Sat May 09, 2015 11:52 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

I'll add that I no longer buy pre-arrivals from PC, though it's more out of impatience and having passed the log growth wine accumulation phase than out of fear that I'll be stiffed. There have been some very tempting deals lately for those with patience and nerves.
by DavidG
on Sat May 09, 2015 5:03 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

Arv, what you write seems to makes sense, but how could they sustain the practice you describe as long as they have and through a major recession without defaulting? Jim, the difference between PC and Rare is that, year after year, PC delivers. Eventually. Or gives your money back. Is it illegal to ...
by DavidG
on Sat May 09, 2015 4:58 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?

I got my last 2005s from PC last year. It's only been 5 years since you ordered, and 2 years past the time that most retailers delivered EP purchases. If the wines were in high demand, I figure you'll see them in another 2-3 years. Maybe less. What do they say when you call them? Not that you'll get...
by DavidG
on Fri May 08, 2015 10:32 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Wine lawyer to chase en primeur orders?
Replies: 74
Views: 577

Re: So what have you bought lately?

I swore that I wouldn't buy any 2010s. Then I swore that the 2010s I bought would be my last. It was easy to skip the 2011s. With some enthusiastic reports from Parker and Leve, it was back to swearing that I wouldn't buy any 2012s. Then I was inspired by Father Stefan. So today I bought the followi...
by DavidG
on Thu May 07, 2015 2:58 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: So what have you bought lately?
Replies: 148
Views: 3636

Re: 2003 Sociando

I can see the Sociando green/Loire Cab Franc connection.
by DavidG
on Sun May 03, 2015 11:39 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2003 Sociando
Replies: 16
Views: 197

Re: Riedel Burgundy sommelier series v. vinum series glasses

I agree. The Burgundy glasses most seem to like are too big for me. I like the Zalto Bordeaux glass for Burgs and the Zalto Univeersal glass for just about everything else.
by DavidG
on Sat May 02, 2015 1:46 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Riedel Burgundy sommelier series v. vinum series glasses
Replies: 7
Views: 109

Re: Is Jeff Leve the new He Who Shall Remain Nameless?

I've long enjoyed Jeff's enthusiastic tell-it-like-it-is reviews. His site has just gone from strength to strength over the years. He's definitely got a more Parkeresque than an AFWE palate, but he's his own man. Plus he's a genuinely nice guy in person and a generous host. Another trait he shares w...
by DavidG
on Fri May 01, 2015 12:57 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Is Jeff Leve the new He Who Shall Remain Nameless?
Replies: 9
Views: 193

Re: 2014 Bordeaux A Detailed Look at 400 wines

Love the detailed reports. Well done as usual. It will take some time to read through them. But only 400?
by DavidG
on Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:37 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: 2014 Bordeaux A Detailed Look at 400 wines
Replies: 13
Views: 221

Re: TN: 1975 Chateau Pipeau Saint Emilion

I'm with you, Art. Plus je vieillis , le plus laissez-faire je deviens.
by DavidG
on Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:46 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 1975 Chateau Pipeau Saint Emilion
Replies: 15
Views: 133

Re: Rigorous training for BWE Bordeaux 2015

That's a serious training regimen! I'd want Ian on my team for the Bordeaux Winelympics.
by DavidG
on Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:50 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: Rigorous training for BWE Bordeaux 2015
Replies: 10
Views: 171

Re: My BWE 2015 WOTY

Madoff said he intended to satisfy every investor before it all came crashing down. The PC "model" works, unless there comes a time when it doesn't work. I remember going into their store a few years back and seeing what Arv described, basically very little wine on the actual premises. It...
by DavidG
on Sat Apr 25, 2015 4:29 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: My BWE 2015 WOTY
Replies: 41
Views: 351

Re: My BWE 2015 WOTY

The difference between PC and Bernie Madoff? Seriously? PC delivers, and when they don't they give your money back.
by DavidG
on Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:25 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: My BWE 2015 WOTY
Replies: 41
Views: 351

Re: BWE France '15 organizing team announces itinerary

JCNorthway wrote:That is an itinerary to die for. I wish things had worked to be able to go. For anyone who is going, it should be a most memorable week. Great work by the planning committee.


This^

Outstanding work but the organizers!
by DavidG
on Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:48 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: BWE France '15 organizing team announces itinerary
Replies: 24
Views: 331

Re: A TN: 2003 Ch. Fourcas Hosten, Listrac

I've got about a half-dozen '03s but the only one I've tried is the Pontet Canet. I've had it several times and think it is not yet showing its best but I don't get any hot, overripe, torrified sense from it except some heat immediately after opening. I've been reading a fair number of TNs on variou...
by DavidG
on Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:10 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: A TN: 2003 Ch. Fourcas Hosten, Listrac
Replies: 7
Views: 87

Re: TN: 1989 Château Lynch-Bages (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Pauillac)

They're raised the price on the '89 Lynch but still a bargain. Lots of other good things on the list at decades-old pricing. Stefan - it was pretty nice yesterday, around 70 and sunny, but sill way too cold for going in the ocean, not that that stopped some of the young and restless. We're just rela...
by DavidG
on Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:34 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 1989 Château Lynch-Bages (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Pauillac)
Replies: 10
Views: 134

Re: TN: 2010 Château Cantelys (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

Never had an '05, Roel. They may benefit from more time. I usually like my Bdx much older but thought this one to be an early drinker. I've been wrong before and could be way off. If you've got more than a few '05s, ten years would be a good time to take a look. CT notes seem to indicate it's out of...
by DavidG
on Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:59 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2010 Château Cantelys (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 5
Views: 57

TN: 1989 Château Lynch-Bages (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Pauillac)

A personal favorite and in one respect a BWE founding partner, we splurged for this bottle while taking a break at the beach. ⋅  1989 Château Lynch-Bages - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Pauillac Purchased off the list of our favorite secret seaside joint. They've raised the price but still a re...
by DavidG
on Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:10 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 1989 Château Lynch-Bages (France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Pauillac)
Replies: 10
Views: 134

TN: 2010 Château Cantelys (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)

⋅  2010 Château Cantelys - France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan Perfect cork and fill. Dark red to rim. Pop and pour. Initially pretty simple, ripe fruit and cassis on nose, not too interesting on the palate. But after an hour or two it started to show some interesting interplay betwe...
by DavidG
on Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:48 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2010 Château Cantelys (France, Bordeaux, Graves, Pessac-Léognan)
Replies: 5
Views: 57

Re: TN: 2005 Château Croix de Labrie

Yes it's new-world-y. I would think the '09 would be good to go without need of cellaring. Might have noticeable oak as a baby, but the ripeness of the vintage should make it an early drinker.
by DavidG
on Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:15 pm
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2005 Château Croix de Labrie
Replies: 6
Views: 59

TN: 2005 Château Croix de Labrie

⋅  2005 Château Croix de Labrie - France, Bordeaux, Libournais, St. Émilion Grand Cru Cellared since release. Perfect fill and cork. Pop and pour, drunk over 4 hours. Dark purple to rim. Dark berries, cedar, soy/umami on the nose. Medium to full body, lush ripe fruit, wood, soy, adequate ...
by DavidG
on Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:28 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 2005 Château Croix de Labrie
Replies: 6
Views: 59

Re: TN: 01 Bastor Lamontagne [Sauternes]

You're right about tartrate crystals Arv but I don't see them that often, and that's not the only acid in wine.
by DavidG
on Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:42 am
 
Forum: Forum
Topic: TN: 01 Bastor Lamontagne [Sauternes]
Replies: 12
Views: 85
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