Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

stefan

Some wonderful wines you drank, Nic. Is 2014 Grande Année already in its "plateau of maturity"?

stefan

"Best of the best" is the right title! While it was unfortunate that some were not in good shape, having an excellent bottle of 1989 Haut-Brion is enough to make any event a huge success. However, with a current price of $2000 with no guarantee that the bottle will be good, it is now an ea...

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Yeah, 1986 Gruaud has been really good since the mid 1990s. Different now, of course, but still excellent. I think it was about $150 the last time I bought it (pre-pandemic). The lowest price I see now is $200 and it pushes close to $300 at some famous stores.

stefan

Along with all this New Love for La Lagune, one should emphasize that older vintages purchased at auction are likely to be swill. La Lagune $$$ should only be spent on recent vintages.

stefan

40+ years ago I stored a few cases of wine for a couple of years in my brother's underground cellar. At some point he discovered that wine loving rats lived there. They had chewed off capsules on many bottles and begun to chew through corks. Fortunately, they were exterminated before they got comple...

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I hope you have enough $$$ left over to buy a fridge.

stefan

Great wine for celebrating your 80th birthday! One lot I lost in my last auction outing contained a bottle of '89 Lynch Bages. I hope it found a good home.

stefan

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I frequently use the plus sign when assigning a score as I am grading the wine in its current state while acknowledging that there is room for future improvement.
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Yes, I do the same.

stefan

Wine enough for after you turn 90, but what about when you are in your seventies and eighties?

stefan

>> ...poor, average, good, very good, and superlative... I took my lead from the late Clive Coates MW... >> Clive also used "very fine indeed", "quite good", and the like. IIRC, "quite good" was less than "good" and "very fine indeed" was better than...

stefan

I need whites for Texas, but I do not like the selection available locally. Lucie agreed that we can substitute Champagne, so I bought

3 Clouet Silver
1 Clouet Rose
2 2016 Trudon

stefan

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Lafite has always held a mystique for me
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For me, too. No other first growth has it. It reminds me of Salieri versus Mozart: Salieri crafts a perfect composition, then a Mozart piece blows it away.

stefan

Congratulations! That's a great score. Thinking about drinking them at maturiy will help you stay alive.

stefan

>> i will never understand the 86 PichonLalande >> My experience with the 86 Comtesse has been very good. '78 Giscours and '67 Haut Brion bring back good memories for me. The last few bottles of '86 Gruaud we have drunk have varied from very good to outstanding. For some reason I am insensitive to t...

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I could not find a wine list for Le Bernardin. Is there one online?

stefan

The food part of the menu looks great; glad it was great. I did not know that Lambray made a Folatieres. Did the Som decant it? Papa Doc was a fan of decanting white Burgundies, and I should have followed his advice tonight. We drank a 2017 Berthelemot Chassagne Abbaye de Morgeot with pan fried flou...

stefan

$691 tax free is a very good price for 2016 Lafite, Jim. I doubt that you could get that price at auction.

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I can't take them with me
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Are you sure? Save one to share with me in That Great Tasting Room in the Sky.

stefan

About the same, Jim, as the 1996, and hard to get at auctions for under $900 all in. Probably considerably less in the UK at auctions; right, Ian? Occasionally at USA auctions you can get "bargains" on Lafite. My most recent purchase was the equivalent of $410/ bottle all in for the 1983 L...

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1996 at USA retail is $900-$1300.

stefan

I drink a lot of La Tour Blanche, partly because I like and partly because it is the favorite Sauternes of a friend. I appreciate the 2003, but I am not surprised that it did not go well with foie gras. IMO, it is a wine to drink by itself or with a salty cheese or salted popcorn.

stefan

Excellent comparison report, Mark!

Most notable for me is how Prieure Lichine has improved over the years.

stefan

I agree, Ian.

The 2010 il Poggione is still primary, but the Bolognese sauce smooths it out. I saved some to drink tomorrow at lunch.

stefan

I thought about drinking a 2010 Bruna Grimaldi Camilla tonight but instead instead opened a 2010 il Poggione Brunello. I think it will be better with pasta Bolognese.

stefan

I expected to win at most 2-3 lots in a recent online auction. However,.... Chateau Pichon Lalande 1996 Pauillac lscl Bottle (1) 2000 Pauillac 2nl Bottle (2) Chateau Gruaud Larose 1986 St. Julien ts, scl Bottle (1) Chateau Clinet 1995 Pomerol lscl Bottle (1) Chateau Cos d'Estournel 1996 St. Estephe ...

stefan

I hope you are past the worst phase and continue to improve, Danny. Are you able to play 18 now?

stefan

Oh, maybe that explains why you got so sick. You were green most of the next day IIRC.

stefan

A Zinfandel with a steak? And you claim to be a Bordeaux Wine Enthusiast? Any self respecting BWEer would be drinking a Pauillac with the steak.

What is your excuse?

stefan

I wrote the above before starting to eat. Pairing the 2014 Cantemerle with a ground venison dish Lucie prepared was a good choice as the venison smoothed out the rough edges in the Cantemerle.

stefan

>> JC is one of the very first original BWEers, we met him and his amazing better half Paula in Chicago in February 2001 at the first annual BWE convention. >> And not nearly often enough since then! Speaking of Cantemerle, I am enjoying drinking the 2014 now. I bought one bottle a few years ago and...

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Gosh, I also like them all. I place St Estephe in last place, below St Emilion.

stefan

St Innocent:

2019 Pinot noir, Shea Vineyard (4)
2019 Pinot noir, Freedom Hill Vineyard (1)
2020 Pinot noir, Shea Vineyard (1)
2021 Pinot noir, Momtazi Vineyard (4)
2022 Riesling, Freedom Hill Vineyard (2)

stefan

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I will probably go broke ordering wines....
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That's the BWE spirit, esl!

stefan

Happy 24th, BWE! Thanks, Jim, for creating this board and running it for almost a quarter of a century.

stefan

Let this be a warning to anyone contemplating buying even oldish La Lagune. Expect to buy 3 or 4. to get one that is good. If you did not buy on release, forget it and bid on something else.

stefan

The two are for trying in Texas. The 12 are for Oregon to be drunk down the road.

stefan

12 more 2014 Pichon Baron

stefan

I am on Paxlovid, David. I haven't noticed any change in my smell or taste. I've eaten and drunk what I usually do, although in smaller amounts. Perhaps that indicates that I have no taste, confirming what Lucie tells me frequently. Lucie tested positive this morning and will probably start taking P...

stefan

Tonight we are also drinking a youngster--2007 Latour a Pomerol. It is a luscious, full bodied wine with currants and wild strawberries and a long finish, but it lacks distinctive Pomerol attributes. It should be blanquitoed, I think. How is the Lafon Rochet? I am recovering from the Covid I contrac...

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Cristom spring club case
6 2022 Domaine Drouhin Louise PN
2 2014 Frank Bonneville Bl d Bl
2 2009 Paul Michel Bl d Bl
1 2010 Paul Michel Bl d Bl
1 2002 Lanson Noble
2 2014 Pichon Baron

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>> If it falls apart I may have missed the opportunity to drink the remaining bottles when they were showing well. >> In the olden days, when I was young, if a good Bordeaux tasted fresh you could be sure that it would last for another ten years at least. No more. For example, some 2003 Bordeaux fel...

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