Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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Jim,

I have advocated for La Lagune for many years now. This property is an incredible value for money!

For me, 2019 and 2020 are similarly excellent but maybe 2020 is slightly more concentrated. Still, you just wait for 2022 when in bottle. It may be the best one ever for La Lagune.

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Farr Vintners hasn't had Beausejour DL on the list since the 2016 vintage. Strange. Here in Denmark, TM was some 23 £ cheaper than BDL in the 2022 vintage. Both were the same price in previous vintages. BDL changed hands and got a new winemaker in 2021. One who worked with Maxime Cheurlin at a famed...

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I have the 2018, 2019, 2020, and they have fabulous potential. These wines perhaps represent the best vfm in St-Emilion because the terroir is superb. And now the oak/gloss/extraction has been dialled down to sensible levels the terroir can shine through I disagree. For me Beausejour (Duffau Lagarr...

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Jim,

I did taste both from the barrel, but not yet from the bottle.

I can imagine 2019 being a better wine.

I will visit PS with Alex in about two week's time.

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stefan, you are so right. Clive Coates was very diplomatic in his description of a wine. He overused the expression "very good indeed". If I were to grade the wines in terms of quality, it would look like this: 1. Eternal, unforgettable 2, Majestic, fantastic, exceptional 3. Excellent, tre...

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Jim is 100% right. I am an enthusiastic scorer. I have been raised in wine since 1984 with a 100 p system and will not change it. My first visit to Bx was in March 1984, so this year marks 40 years since then. Alex and I will soon go to taste 2023 Bx primeur wines. We have an extremely tight schedul...

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Posted by Olivier Techer (Gombaude Guillot in Pomerol) on Facebook. It's TNs on Mouton Rothschild 2010 awarded 100p, taken from Le Figaro's wine section and written by an English wine consultant, Ella Lister, who runs a company named Wine Lister. "An initial toasted, hedonistic nose of cedar an...

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Foie gras is not salty enough, and its fatness doesn't go well with the abundant sweetness of LTB 2003.

Stefan is perfectly right for this wine to accompany salty cheeses like sheep and goat cheese. I would also pair it with smoked salmon, oysters, crab, shrimp, and even lemon sorbet and ice cream.

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Niclasss, You seem to state the truth based on having tasted one wine. Try to taste both Beausejours in recent vintages, and you will know better. Yes, they are more expensive. Duffau-Lagarrosee is a great threat and almost Burgundian in its appeal. Imho, all the cries out of St. E. being this and t...

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I don't think it is recent and updated.

F.i. Vieux Chateau Bourgneuf no longer exists; it is now Clos de Beau Pere.

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I am sorry, but I found the voting process quite amusing. It seems to me that every district has its own unique wines, some better than others. Personally, I don't think that basing a vote on tasting minor wines with unknown origins during less-than-spectacular vintages is a reliable way to judge th...

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Niclasss,

You tasted wines from lower ranks.

I have actually tasted Larcis Ducasse 2006 and partly agree with your TNs, but it was not as that bad as you describe. 2006 was a Cabernet year, and Merlot failed on the Right Bank.

It would be better to taste several wines in the same vintage.

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Difficult to say.

2020 and 2018. All supervised by young cellarmaster, Maylis de Laborderie who left La Lagune in January 2021.

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California Cab??

Imho, 2020 La Lagune is as typical Bordeaux as it can be.

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marcs, I disagree with your assumption. Oxidation is a fault with wine. It's not the same as aeration. In fact, in my experience, letting a wine stand for 1-3 hours after opening can actually improve its taste. This is particularly true for bottles sent to me from Bordeaux during COVID-19. Additiona...

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They promote the sale of Tronquoy Lalande 2014 by adding Tns and scores from various critics. The funny thing is that this quote below leaves one to think that all tricks apply! A rich, chocolaty wine with structure right up front. Under the same ownership as Château Montrose, this wine reveals all ...

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I've these wines in my cellar: CONFIDENCE(S) DE CHATEAU SEGUIN SEGUIN L'EGLISE CLINET MOUTON ROTHSCHILD CALON SEGUR LES CARMES HAUT BRION MONTROSE LA LAGUNE LA MISSION HAUT BRION CAILLOU BEYCHEVELLE TEYSSIER LAFORGE VIEUX CHATEAU MAZERAT LE DÔME 2014 has an excellent acidity in red wines, dry whites...

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robert goulet, I strongly disagree with your statement. I think that you are displaying a lack of respect for Robert Parker. It seems to me that you are venting your frustration and envy at not being able to taste wine as well as he can. I believe showing respect towards others, particularly those w...

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DavidK, You are entitled to your opinion, but your comments are difficult to understand because of the overuse of philosophical jargon. "His point scoring system is a travesty of the nuance that underlies the wonder of wines. His rating system trivialized comprehension of wine and brought non-k...

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He rated Montrose 1990 100 p and Beausejour Duffau Lagarrosse 1990 100p. Overextracted and dull wines?
Give me a f... break.

He has loved Lafite, Ch. Margaux and Cheval Blanc. Overextracted and dull wines??

I voted net positive.

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robert goulet, I do not understand why you have a strong dislike for Michel Roland. He is not the one who makes the wine; the chateau owners do. The Bordeaux extraction accounts for only a small percentage of total Bordeaux wines. Moreover, Michel Roland didn't recommend the extraction technique, in...

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Net positive!

I can't follow Alex in his comments.

Angelus, Pavie, Cos d'Estournel back then weren't the whole Bordeaux.

HE DIDN*T MAKE THESE WINES!

Imho, there is no equally gifted wine critic right now as him.

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Rober Parker discovered Tertre Roteboeuf and Le Pin. I think Bordeaux should thank him for all his efforts. He didn't make the wine; the chateau owners did to get his applause. You guys are too hard on him. I have an utter respect for him, and for me, there is no equal wine critic to him nowadays!

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JimH,

Pavie Macquin is a modern-style wine that is not overdone and overdimensioned. Top St Emilion but there are many competitors.

David G,

Gentle as a lamb. It has become significantly more elegant and with more finesse in recent vintages.

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Ian, In 2005, Lafite is a total beauty, followed by Latour and Mouton R. Although I don't remember Mouton R being a tannic monster in 2005. It's been a while since I tasted these three 1st growths, the last time being in May 2008. Angelus wasn't as extracted in 2005 but nowadays it has become a kind...

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DavidG, I am not certain if I have tasted Bellevue Mondotte 2005, but the Pavie 2005 from the barrel was similar to your description of BM. However, Pavie Decesse 2005 did not have the same characteristics. Their style changed starting from 2014, with much less oak and no over-extraction. However, I...

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Stefan,

Yes, I did, but it was meant as "some", meaning a minority of winemakers and lower-classified wines.

I remember the manager at L'Evangile telling me that any winemaker who failed to produce a good wine in 2005 should consider finding another job and not as winemaker!

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DavidG,

I am sorry, but I think you are wrong on the excessive extraction, as there was no need to do it in 2005.

Parker retired several years ago. Last year, it was another person at the helm of WA.

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JIm,

It's equal on both banks. Whites both in dry and sweet version are great.

It is also the first vintage Bordeaux winemakers began thinking more and more about phenolic ripeness.

Imho, 2010 vintage outdoes the 2005, but the latter is more than useful.

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A few weeks ago, I had a chance to taste some 12 wines from this very acclaimed vintage. Since tasting from the barrel in March/April 2006, I haven’t had that many wines from 2005. Still, I remember clearly mind-boggling appearances of Lafite, Latour, Mouton Rothschild, Montrose and Tertre Roteboeuf...

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I often think that Lagrange goes the safe way, and the winemaker uses the formula "You never risk anything". It is a correctly made wine that is rarely exciting, but I would like to know if some more adventurous winemaker could bring this property up in quality. Lagrange has excellent soil...

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I have one bottle of 2004 Lafite. 2018, 2000, 2008, and 2017. Btw, I had a frigging' wonderful 2003 Lafite (100p) last September during the yearly visit of 40 chateaux to Copenhagen, who supply the negociant company Beyerman. The stand of Duhart Milon poured their 2022 and 2017, and 200c Lafite for ...

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Ian,

Done.

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Imho, 2019 Bx is more consistent than 2020, sweeter, and a bit lighter. 2020 after it left barrels is great. It was not 100% convincing from the barrel. Every time I taste 2016, I love the aristocratic touch it has. 2015 has always been flashy and lacks the complexity of 2016, 2019, and 2020. 2022 w...

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Stuart,

With due respect, 2016 Lafite 94p?? Provenance? Purchased at auction?

I think several of your Lafite bottles cried from not having perfect provenance.

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Jim,

2016 Lafite was a stunner the last time I tasted it and this happened in April 2019. 99-100p.

I have always had a sweet spot for this property, and in September this year I tasted for the first time a truly eternal 2003 Lafite! 100p.

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AlexR,

Large producer? Only 14 ha.

Jckba,

Clos de la Roilette 2020 was great to drink a few months ago.

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Jim, They are quite busy in Bordeaux right now with the harvest. You can go at the end of your trip to either San Sebastian or Biarritz or St. Jean de Luz. Inoui (TGV) from Bordeaux to Hendaye is only 2.5 hours, then 45 min with local train to the center of SS. You can chill out alone in SS without ...

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Guys,

I don't know the reason for the personal attacks etc. but think some coolness was badly needed.

I have no desire to leave BWE right now.

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