Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

DavidG

Probably not reckless to say "Bordeaux is diverse," even when referring to the stuff that makes it to the US. But it is true that most of our discussion here is focused on the top 1-2% of those ~9,000 estates. When we say it's overpriced, I think most of us know we're talking about the top...

DavidG

There are 3 numbers that are too high for me to be even remotely interested in 2015 Bdx:

1) My age
2) My Bordeaux inventory
3) Their prices

DavidG

Use the second (Google) link and you'll get the entire article.

Well done Timmc!

DavidG

NBC reports his passing.

A complicated and controversial man. I found more to admire than dislike, but he certainly provoked strong feelings, both positive and negative over the course of his life.

DavidG

Another legend. May be down for the count.

What an amazing life.

DavidG

Well done Francois!

I took the liberty of fixing the link to the full story on your website.

DavidG

Another fabulous report. You are living well, Ian, happy birthday and many more! Keep up the good work!

DavidG

Nice write up. I've enjoyed reading this and other reports. Sounds like a very nice place but no substitute for the personal sort of attention one can get with an arranged visit at a chateaux. Perhaps more introductory than for the hard core Bordeaux-phile. You mention 14,000 bottles on premises. Ar...

DavidG

I like this wine too. My notes from about 6 months ago: 2005 Barde-Haut : Cellared since release, perfect cork and fill. Dark red/purple, minimal lightening at the rim. Cassis, dark berries on the nose. Medium-full body, dark fruits, nice balance, still some tannins, medium finish. No longer youthfu...

DavidG

Welcome to BWE Chris. This sounds like a wine that should drink well for years to come.

DavidG

Danny, I think the '09 is showing the early drinking attributes characteristic of the vintage. You know I like them with age, and this has no signs of mature complexity, but it's not shut down at all. It was probably open about 60-90 minutes before we started drinking it. I see no harm in holding it...

DavidG

A tour de force, Izak, and a great read! Your enthusiasm has me tempted to buy, but I am now just a spectator when it comes to young Bordeaux.

DavidG

Another candidate for Howing but this wine doesn't need any affirmative action to compensate for its youth. It's drinking quite well already. Dark red to rim, dark fruits, cassis, earth and pencil shavings, open-knit and giving with good structure and soft tannins, medium body, medium finish. Drinki...

DavidG

Happy Anniversary Francois. Nice to see you drop in.

DavidG

I think we're assuming that Bernie is responsible for creating this foment and backlash. He provides a platform for it, but even if he drops out it is a mistake to think the agitators will suddenly fall in line and fall in love with Hillary. There is an simmering, angry and very motivated undercurr...

DavidG

I'm honestly not all that confident, Jim. Clinton is in for a hell of a rough ride.

DavidG

I don't think Sanders would stand a chance against Trump once the media started to shine a light on him as they would in a general election. Right now the media is too invested in portraying the Democratic nomination process as a tight race worthy of everyone's attention. Clinton is at least battle ...

DavidG

Wow, WOW, WOW! Thanks for sharing, Ian. I am riding high on the vicarious hog after reading your report. I've had a few of those wines, but none of the ancient ones and never so many at one sitting. Though the visit to Ch. Margaux in 2005 wasn't a bad attempt... Not surprised at how well the 1961 pe...

DavidG

If anyone should be arrested and indicted, it's Bernie Sanders. He's fomenting blatant criminal activity.

Maybe he can share a cell with his criminal fraudster wife.

DavidG

I agree with the comments about Sauternes/Barsac being your best bet in Bordeaux. Plus it's sweet, which is always a nice thing to celebrate many years of a sweet union. Even better if you can find a mag or two to open for a large gathering on your 20th or 25th or so... You can splurge on some Yquem...

DavidG

Really liking the tobacco and earthy, slightly green-tinged notes coming to the fore with a little more time in the glass.

My first bottle of this last year had an odd buttered popcorn/diacetyl note. No hints of that here.

DavidG

Nice nose of cassis, tobacco and mouth-watering umami.

Medium body, red fruits, soft palate feel with low acidity (but not flabby), mellow tannins.

DavidG

It's been a year since I bought a few of these and popped my first one, but I think this still qualifies for Howing.

Cork and fill are perfect, deep dark red to the rim.

Need to let this warm up a bit from cellar temp.

DavidG

Congratulations Patrick!

I've been blithely deleting all of the retailer 2015 Bordeaux emails. This thread is tempting me to take a look. It's a slippery slope...

DavidG

I think we need to bring back Ken Starr to dig into this...

DavidG

Not me - I've been catting around all my vinous life. I'll drink left bank, right bank, California. Guess that makes me a wine slut.

DavidG

When I see that Vieux Chateau Chauvin label my brain wants to autocorrect it to Vieux Chateau Certan.

DavidG

Yes I think you are on to something here Marcus. I know I've posted this before, probably a few times. I had a few cases of 1983 Prieure Lichine, half of which was stored in my dad's passive basement for 5 years (up to low 70s in summer, down to 60s in winter) before I inherited it, and half which w...

DavidG

Yes, Boston is a wonderfully complicated place. It's the whole New England Puritan, Catholic guilt thing. A lot of it has to do with the complicated seasons, I think. Great city though. But, yes, fucked up in the head. Complicated seasons? I thought it was f'n winter punctuated by a few weeks of f'...

DavidG

I had a few of these (the 2000 Chauvin, not the luxury cuvée). Loved it and another good QPR. Sounds like it has aged a bit since the bottles I drank in 2011: 2000 Chauvin : Dark red to rim. Complex nose with cassis, dark fruts, earth, cedar. Full body, ripe layers of dark fruits, leather, coffee, h...

DavidG

Pavie was the only right banker I bought in 2003. Was this the wine that sparked the RP/JR clash of the critics, or was it an earlier vintage? I've yet to open either of my 2 bottles, but all this positive press is tempting.

Patrick, Orlando Bobby is Robert Alfert on WB.

DavidG

The Saran wrap trick works to some extent, Arv, but my experience is that the wine does not completely recover. I think It is worth using if you can't stand to lose a bottle. My experience as well. Can make the wine drinkable but not normal. Apparently some films work better than others. In my tria...

DavidG

I drank through a 6-pack of 2005 Grands Chênes at a young age, over 2009-2014. So I'm not just an old Bordeaux drinker. I may be old, but not all the Bdx I consume is old. This was a good QPR at $22, and was tasty if fairly chunky, as was your 2010. It also carried a noticeable slug of oak. Maybe ap...

DavidG

I agree with Nic. Flowery, fruity and granitic are great general descriptors. I would add that there are some Bojo producers making a more serious, weighty wines that drink fine young but can also improve with age. Great balance and less sweetness than the ubiquitous Duboeufs. Not as serious as clas...

DavidG

We need a shorthand term for "The Jim How Young Wine Drinking Technique." It should pay homage to its inventor and principal promoter, similar to the use of "Audouze" when referring to slow oxygenation. What about "How?" "I just couldn't resist the temptation of th...

DavidG

So the 2009 Haut Bergey is very approachable. Despite my avowed aged Bordeaux allegiance, I found it quite enjoyable when following the Jim How manual on how to enjoy young wines. A prime grilled ribeye no doubt helped. I've got a half-case and wouldn't mind drinking them at this stage of their evol...

DavidG

My experience with 1989 Lynch Bages has been different. I found it shut down until 2002 or so. You could tell it was a great wine, with lurking power, but it was not nearly as giving as it became with more bottle age. These were bottles purchased as futures ($30/bottle, $70/mag) and stored at 55-57 ...

DavidG

And in reply to your comment about Trump/Sanders: absolutely! Two sides of the same coin. Unless Trump really is playing to the cameras as the Reality TV Candidate and will change his tune if elected. I don't think he is that sophisticated, but I could be wrong. Hope I don't have to find out. Stefan...

DavidG

Thanks, Scott. My understanding was that all of the Secy's before Clinton had email on something other than the official secure server, so perhaps that is relatively new? Not that it means that they didn't know the rules - if as you say their requests were denied. I wonder how much attention is paid...

DavidG

against the explicit instructions of the NSA. Well it's probably a good thing that the server was a secret when she was actually using it. Wouldn't want to publicly advertise it to every teenage, Russian and N. Korean hacker out there. Is anyone claiming that Clinton actually broke a law with her s...

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