Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

stefan

We'll watch, but I don't want to waste a good bottle of wine on the debate. I was thinking of drinking Tequila laced with Vodka and Cointreau. I'm wondering if a quart of each is enough.

stefan

I like the NSGs from Gouges. They can be hard as nails when young, but it sounds like the 2010 have already come around.

stefan

>> Giscours has always been an enigma for me. Jekyll-Hyde wine. >> Actually, Giscours was consistently excellent from 1961 to 1979. It performed badly in 1982 and continued to go downhill through the glorious 1980s. I quit buying it until I read on BWE about its come back. I again have a few bottles...

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Nic, I think that many 2019 Oregon PNs are attractive now. Right now I am sipping on 2019 St Innocent Heritage, which is a blend of juice from Shea, Freedom Hill, Temperance Hill, and Momtazi. As such, it does not have the distictiveness of a single vineyard wine, but it is complex, with some of the...

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1986 Celtics. One of the all time best front courts, and not shabby in the back, either. Not even close, IMO.

stefan

Dynasty for this team? What have you been smoking? There are too many strong teams now for any team to have a dynasty. Even with an easy win this year, the point total of the Mavs was higher than that of the Cs over the first four games.

stefan

Yuch! I hope that the Mavs can do something never done previously. But it will take a lot more than Luka magic.

I am undecided as to who most deserves the MVP. I am torn between Joe Mazzulla and Brad Stevens, but am leaning toward the latter.

stefan

The people I know from Belgium drank beer from age four and turned to wine as teen agers (while not giving up beer, of course). Some cafes in Belgium have "baby beer" on the menu. Not a bad idea, as I never heard young children cry when at a cafe.

stefan

>> You guys should know that using Pichon Lalande name is an anachronic thing. It is PICHON COMTESSE! In Bordeaux and among professionals we use Pichon Comtesse name >> Oh, great! I look forward to a classic BWE fight after Jeff Leve learns that Izak claims that Jeff is not a professional.

stefan

My bad for not buying this wine way back when. Now you are lucky to find it for $300.

stefan

>> What would you spend on a first growth Bordeaux? >> My last first growth purchase was 7 bottles of Lafite 1983 for around $400 per bottle. I think Dominus is $300+ now for most vintages. If you place it at first growth level, it is a good buy. I would rather buy one of the Pichons at around $200 ...

stefan

I haven't drunk any of these wines in vintages past 2009, so I have to abstain. But I do find it interesting that you do not mention La Mission Haut Brion.

stefan

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Ken Wright is a Willamette wine. I haven't been a lover of Calif since 1982.
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Ken Wright PNs are better, for my taste, than any comparably priced CA PNs.

Brian, if Dominus were $50-70, I would buy it. It is one of the most Bordeaux-like of the Napa Cabs.

stefan

Yes, indeed, Jim.

I saw on WineSearcher that the 2017 Niellon you bought is available one place in WA state for $105. 'Course that does not mean it is really available for $105. $150 is more the norm. MacArthur has the current release (2022) for $109.

stefan

These days it is very difficult to find 1er Crus from Puligny, Chassagne, or Meursault for under $100. I was happy to get Puligny-Montrachet 2020 Les Champs Canet from J. M. Boillot recently for $100, but I have not tasted it yet. I like Boillot, so I am not too worried. BTW, there are nice Oregon C...

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>> Makes me think I need to give up this Napa crap >> The final straw for me was the 1997 vintage. When I tried them young, they all tasted the same. When I tasted some 10+ years later, they all tasted the same. OK; that is an unjustified generalization, but given the inflated prices of Napa Cabs, I...

stefan

I wonder if Macron complained about the too young Batard his sommelier picked.

stefan

Cut out the silliness, Jim. You know that many, including I, are happy to pay for it to continue.

stefan

Ho-hum. Just another fabulous Comte evening. :) I've had a fondness for Piper Heidsieck Rare since the early 1990s, when American Air Lines served it in international business class. I had enough status on AA that I frequently was upgraded. In those days it could be fun to fly. Sounds like the 2002 ...

stefan

I see.

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It is an open question as to whether I will ever drink any of these half bottles of 2020 Giscours
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ROTFL

stefan

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he would lose SS protection in prison.
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That is awful!

stefan

The earlier the better for us as we will go from Texas to Oregon in the fall, probably not long after early voting begins. From Houston to DC there are direct flights. There are not from Eugene, so carrying wine is much more risky.

stefan

>> Others seem to think you can just leave a half finished bottle for a day or two and have it be as good but I haven't found that. >> Have you used Repours, Marcus? They work very well. I also fridge wines even when I use Repours. On the rare occasions that I know I will not finish a bottle, upon o...

stefan

Oh, so I am not the only BWEer who spits at dinners.

stefan

The jury judged that the charges of that Trump misclassified expenditures in corporate books were proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Suppose that appeal court rules that the elevation of those misdemeanor charges to felonies was unconstitutional or improperly done. Since the statute of limitations on...

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>> f I had it all to do over the majority of my collection would be 375s >> Why, Marcus? 375s take up the same space as 750s unless you have specially designed storage. I like to have a few 375s for the rare occasion that I am drinking by myself and also to see how a wine is coming along, but I don'...

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4 1979 du Tertre

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>> I don’t see this verdict changing things for the better for the Democrats. >> I agree. Apparently, so did most people in the White House. But they cannot control what cases New York officials prosecute. I thought that the best result for the Dems would be conviction on some counts and acquittal, ...

stefan

St. Innocent Spring Club Order
1 2019 Pinot Noir Freedom Hill Vineyard
4 2019 Pinot Noir Shea Vineyard
1 2020 Pinot Noir Shea Vineyard
4 2021 Pinot Noir Momtazi Vineyard
2 2022 Riesling Temperance Hill Vineyard

3 1988 Rieussec

stefan

The prosecutors could not vote to convict. The judge could not vote to convict. ALL of the 12 jurors voted to convict. The jurors were vetted by Trump's very expensive attorneys. 23% of NYC voters voted for Trump in 2000. Surely some of the jurors were among those. Appeals courts will decide whether...

stefan

Wow!!!! I did not expect this result.

stefan

Unlike 2013 red Bordeaux, 2013 Sauternes are generally good.

Note to self: Buy more 2013 Sauternes.

stefan

Welcome, Samson. Sounds like a good value play you made on 2014 Fleur Cardinale.

I finally tried some 2014s recently. Haut-Bailly was is already in a good spot even if it will improve. Pichon Baron has great structure but should be blanquitoed once or twice.

stefan

Looks like you will win the BWE Buyer of the Month award for May, Jim. Congratulations!

As for me, I am taking the month off. Our Oregon house is already low in empty space for wine. I would have to buy another wine fridge if I went on another buying spree.

stefan

Happy Birthday, Ed!

1964 Haut-Brion was the first First Growth that Lucie and I drank, way back in 1970. At $10, it was far and away the most expensive wine purchase we had made up to that time.

stefan

Oh, I see. Thanks.

stefan

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Ciseled wine
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I never before heard this description, Nic. What does it mean?

stefan

6 1970 Nameless Wine (375)
3 1962 Nameless Wine
2 1961 Nameless Wine

Three wines we liked in the 1970s. The 1962 was the wine that got us started on drinking fine Bordeaux. I know I am throwing away money on swill, but Lucie insisted, for old times sake.

stefan

DC for sure. I hope we can go to Bordeaux.

stefan

1988 Lafite is indeed wonderful, but the last time I drank it, around six years ago IIRC, my bottle was completely out shown by some of Francois' trophies and Tim's 1969 La Tache (which Tim bought & brought because he knew it was on my bucket list).

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