Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

jal

Hmmmm, I trust your palate, tartness now does not bode well for aging.
Then again, you are not really into aging wines, so why not just buy some of the remaining 2016 and 2017 instead of 2019s?

jal

Yes, prices are high everywhere.
To be honest, I don't really get any sense of place with Maconnais or St Romain. For the same price, or cheaper, I stick to regular White Bourgogne from good producers. I really liked the Jean Marc Boillot 2020 for $25.

jal

Nice notes, Claudius, makes me want to visit again. Maybe we will in April '23. Some random thoughts about Spanish wine: The Raul Perez Ultreia Valtuille Bierzo was a household favorite, but the last few years it got expensive. Muga Prado Enea is a wine that will always remind me of Pappadoc, he fir...

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s*d*r wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:23 pm
jal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:40 pm
I've been rotating my red wine consumption to old (older than 200) Bordeaux . . .
Wow, even François doesn’t drink ‘em that old.

jal

Alex and Stefan,
I deleted your posts that were duplicated on the White Burgundy thread

jal

Carillon does good work, and the prices have not yet gone through the roof. I am coming around to the opinion that white Burgundy is fine to drink even quite young. Like most of us, I've had disappointments with the aged stuff, even if, when they're in good shape, they are a real treat. AR That is ...

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So basically, and that was why I really asked, is there any point in buying in quantity and storing or is it more reasonable to just buy a couple of bottles when you feel like drinking a Ridge?

jal

Just as I said I didn't understand Lagrange!

Nice note RPCV, I remember liking the 1996 when young.

jal

Yes, Geyserville is very good in almost every year. We drank the fine 2014 two days ago. Like you, Nic, I have never had a Zin based wine that I would score 94+. I don't care. I've been rotating my red wine consumption to old (older than 200) Bordeaux, Burgundy, Northern Rhone Syrah, Nebbiolo and C...

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Blanquito wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 3:15 pm Also Marc Colin St Aubin is delicious.

I've never had that, I'll try to find some

jal

The only ones I'm familiar with, Stefan, are Lamy and PYCM. The former is really good with the "en Remilly" and "Derriere Chez Edouard" outperforming. The latter is ridiculously priced and out of my price range. Even then, I prefer Chassagne, Puligny and Meursault to St Aubin. Th...

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I channeled my inner Jal and bought 6 bottles of the basic 2018 Domaine Michel Niellon Chassange-Montrachet and 3 bottles of the 2018 Domaine Michel Niellon Chassange Montrachet 1er Cru Clos de la Maltroie de la Louis L'Amour, Hondo edition.... Looking forward to uncorking one with the Thanksgiving...

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Thank you Nicolas
I have been disappointed with the few 2015s I have, and I also don't understand Lagrange. Giscours seems like a wine I would enjoy

jal

We went to Capital Grille in Sarasota and had two salads and two gigantic seafood platters for four people. With those we brought a 2016 Hubert Lamy St Aubin Derriere Chez Edouard and a 2020 Jacques Carillon Puligny Perrieres (freshly arrived from France). Both wines tasted side by side tasted great...

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And for the record, I like Klobuchar and Buttigieg, I also like Val Demings a lot even if she just lost to Marco Rubio in the FL Senate race. I think a Klobuchar Demings ticket can really resonate with voters.
Let's just hope we don't end up with the tired grumpy old men Biden vs Trump

jal

Two problems with Whitmer that may come back to hurt her. Calling women “people with periods”. Jeez! That's enough to make every centrist cringe. She may have a problem with her handling of Covid. Not claiming she was right or wrong, like I said before, public policy during Covid was anything but cl...

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Boy, I’ll tell you, the Dems had better win Georgia because 2024 is going to rough. There are like zero vulnerable Republicans and like 3-4 vulnerable Democrats. I think the Democrats win Georgia easily. Republicans voted for Walker while holding their nose just to win the Senate, now that the Sena...

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Fair enough David.
Public policy in the US (and probably everywhere on the planet from Sweden to China and New Zealand) during Covid was all about trial and error in my opinion. That is for another debate altogether and I won't go into it.

jal

I agree it wasn't a great speech. I said before he has the personality of a sock I don't believe he will run against Trump I don't believe he will run with Trump If he runs it will be because Trump decides not to Left wing media, College professors, cancel culture in academia, just because Tucker Ca...

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Jim
I thought we were talking about the specific speech. None of that is in the CPAC speech.
Everything you mentioned is against my beliefs. I have said that many times but I haven't seen any of that in the YouTube video

jal

I saw the CPAC speech Please tell me what exactly you found distasteful in that speech. Because except for shipping immigrants to Delaware,DC an Hollywood I'm having trouble seeing any of the damning evidence. And no, he's not an anti vaxer, he was urging everyone to get vaccinated. I also haven't s...

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There’s more than a trivial difference between not helping Feds deport immigrants who want to be in your state and rounding up immigrants and sending them somewhere they never intended to go. That said, I get that FL and TX are literally along the front lines of the immigration crisis. Just don’t t...

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I'm totally in favor of shipping folks off to Martha's Vineyard. Let the fatcats like Joe Heitz pay for them!!! I was talking about the legality of it, Arv. The Florida state budget has a few million dollars allocated to shipping illegal immigrants out of Florida, flying them from Texas was justifi...

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I really disagree with a lot of what deSantis stands for David, I just think some credit is due. And ranting is always allowed lol.

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We may have AZ NV by the time the Reno votes come in at 11 eastern tonight, but, hey, let’s pile on these fucking shithead right wing puke balls. You put that much more elegantly than I could. Yes, nothing like civil discourse and polite disagreement to stir up a good conversation, eh Alex? No wond...

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My guy RonnieD 😂 I would take deSantis over Trump in a heartbeat. I do think he has the charisma and personality of a sock I thought he did ok during the pandemic especially compared to Cuomo/deBlasio and Gavin Newsome. Ideologically we're very very far apart. Pragmatically, I can live with him. Ide...

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The Republicans strategy of nominating election deniers as their candidates will go down as the biggest election blunder since Dukakis on the tank. Let's face it, the Democrats didn't as much win as the Republicans lost. Obviously, the Democrats strategy of funding the election deniers campaign in o...

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Yes, that seems to be the conventional wisdom. I doubt it, but it would be liberating to finally get rid of this clown.

jal

Thank you David, that is what I was trying to say.

jal

About abortion, I was modeling my view on the Western European model. I am not for outlawing abortions after 16 weeks (and whether it's 14 like France or 18 like Sweden matters very little), I suggested it would be permitted on an exceptional basis afterwards due to complicated factors like poverty,...

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To answer Alex, I believe that most Americans (and probably most BWE'ers) identify ideologically more with the core message of the Democratic Party. I know I do: Pro Choice (in a logical way, abortion readily available to every woman in the first 16 weeks of pregnancy, and on an exceptional basis af...

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AlexR wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:12 pm Jacques,

This is soemthing I could go on abouta at great length.

We need to sit down with a bottle of wine and shoot the breeze!

Alex

Let's hope we can do it in 2023 Alex

jal

Alex, what is happening in France? I'm reading of an existential crisis

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-decline/

Is that hyperbole/clickbait by a conservative paper or is there something to it?

jal

AlexR wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:06 am
If the Democrats nominate either Bush or Harris, they are sure to lose.

You mean Biden or Harris, right?

jal

Use duct tape around the crack. Not pretty but Duct tape always worked for MacGyver

jal

How delightful, Alex and Christine are wonderful hosts. Alex, here's Burghound's note on Ferret and it's relationship to Jadot: This historic 18 ha domaine was sold to Maison Louis Jadot in 2008 and is now operating under their auspices even though the Ferret label is still used. In keeping with the...

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I went for consistency 0 - 80 is meh, 2000 is consistently good but not earth shatteringly great, and like Stefan I'm not sold on 2010 1 - 71 and 91 were out of the running for anything, 81 is terrific 2 - 82 is awesome, 72 and 92 meh, 2002 good on the Left mediocre at best on the Right 3 - only 83 ...

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No love for 8? Except for 2018, which by reputation seems hot, all the other 8 vintages are solid and some even spectacular 1978 excellent all around 1988 one of my favorite ever vintages 1998 better on the Right Bank but pretty good on the Left as well 2008 I have had only a few times but was never...

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The prodigal son returns. Welcome back, Patrick, missed you.

jal

stefan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:12 pm It works better than simmering the wine to lower the alcohol, Jacques. Not sure whether it is better than freezing the wine and pouring off some of the ethanol.

Just kidding Bill, I’ve put ice cubes in my overly alcoholic white wine more than once.

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