Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

OrlandoRobert

2015 Chateau Canon, St. Emilion I assume eventually it may no longer be cool to be uncool and contrarian about these modern Bordeaux, but damn I did not like this wine. Sure, some of that could be vestiges of the past, knowing what this wine once was, but a merlot-dominant Bordeaux clocking in at 1...

OrlandoRobert

I am -shocked- that no one has mentioned Gilles Barge in this conversation. Did a horizontal tasting of 98’s a few years ago including most of the “biggies” mentioned in this thread. The Barge was among the best. Was thrilled to get a few bottles from Lyle Fass 3y back and they have been among the ...

OrlandoRobert

Woohoo!!!!!!

OrlandoRobert

Nicklasss wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:40 pm An easy one: so that 2018 Ovid is not better than the 2019 Covid? That last one is like a Rolland wine, a worlwide contagion.

And they both kill your taste buds!

OrlandoRobert

Spurned is right!! It was all due to that meddling Alfert, he is a terrible wing man!! It all started when he went deep into a compendium on art history and his contempory cuban art collection and it was str8 to the friendzone for Bobby G! :lol: And I thought you guys were party animals! I was bore...

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Blanquito wrote: ↑Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:24 pm I feel like we owe you guys some subscription fees for such “premium” content.

The premium was being there! We saw things.

OrlandoRobert

And BobbyG still got spurned that night!!

OrlandoRobert

Oh boy, this makes me a little giddy as the 90 Figeac is a come to heaven wine for me. I think the 98 is better, more crisp acid. I love that 1990 as well, but it is definitely kissed by the sunshine of that vintage. So, having won a 3 bottle lot of the 98 Figeac recently (for an irrational sum of ...

OrlandoRobert

Notes cont.. 1998 Chateau Palmer - yeah man, I dig it...felt like I was chained up in a sparsely lit BDSM room with some hot dominatrix named Mistress Chantilly Lace, slapping me in the mouth with a Cat o' nine tails...as I vehemently respond, "thank you ma'am, may I have another?" Not ex...

OrlandoRobert

Thanks for the welcome. I'm on a Bordeaux buying spree again. Also picked up a 2010 Trotanoy today. Gorgeous stuff, Trotanoy is the bomb! I just picked up 6 of the 2006. Have you had this lately/ever? Tempted to crack one and see where its at. Have had the 2008, 2000 and 1998 in the past year, all ...

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barsacpinci wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:38 am Thanks for the welcome. I'm on a Bordeaux buying spree again. Also picked up a 2010 Trotanoy today.

Gorgeous stuff, Trotanoy is the bomb!

OrlandoRobert

I saved about 1/4 bottle of the 1998 Figeac since I was drinking solo. Gosh is it on fire right now. Reminds me more of the 1990, taking on even more rich dark wet soil tones. This is a magnificent wine. Oh boy, this makes me a little giddy as the 90 Figeac is a come to heaven wine for me. I think ...

OrlandoRobert

I saved about 1/4 bottle of the 1998 Figeac since I was drinking solo. Gosh is it on fire right now. Reminds me more of the 1990, taking on even more rich dark wet soil tones. This is a magnificent wine.

OrlandoRobert

This in two different glasses, good in both and better in the 1855 than the Lehmann, which is superb for northern and southern rhone. This Baudry married superbly with a veal chop flash fried seared then in the oven for a few minutes with herbs C099D293-2526-4EE8-8F83-6328385318FF.jpeg Awesome, lov...

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Tell us more Robert about the 1998 Figeac. I have found it to be evolving at a glacial pace in recent years but have not popped one in quite a while. Absolutely gorgeous nose of rich dank earth, Maduro tobacco leaf, brambly dark fruits and some saddle leather. A hint of mint. Mouthfeel is broad, in...

OrlandoRobert

Gentaz is a dream wine. I’ve had many unicorns but that and Jayer have escaped me.

OrlandoRobert

In a perfect drinking window, an impeccable old world St Em. I’d say stock up on these wines pre-2012, as Uncle Rollo is now in charge.

OrlandoRobert

s*d*r wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:24 pm What does Cornas taste like compared with other Northern Rhône?

Generally speaking, I would say more brooding, meatier, darker, more powerful.

But then you have Allemand and Juge, which are so damn elegant, Burdgundian.

OrlandoRobert

Great thread. I’m with Pat, Cornas is my sweet spot. Clape was my Northern Rhône epiphany wine back in the 1990s. My faves are Allemand, Juge and Clape. On Cote Rotie, my regular buys are: 1. Jamet - I put Jamet at the top spot. Getting pricy but gorgeous stuff. Balanced and savory. The 1998 and 99 ...

OrlandoRobert

Nice description Patrick. Last Levet i had was the Améthyste and it was almost like you described this Chavaroche. Rocky mineral, broth and fruit. Nothing modern in the wine. Nic - There is a big step up from the Améthyste to the Les Journaries and La Chav, well worth the small price difference. I ...

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JimHow wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:08 am You are a good friend, OB.
Happy 50th, BG.
Nicola, we need to get down there and show these guys how to party with some fine northern Medocs!

We would love that! Honestly, would be great to meet and pull some corks.

OrlandoRobert

Hard to imagine Marc is 50! Marc, how long we’ve known each other, 15 years? It’s been a truly great friendship. I’ve never seen Marc in an off-mood, to the contrary, he’s always funny as heck and just a blast to be around. And as much as a goofball as he is, his palate is spectacular. And at 50, hi...

OrlandoRobert

Haha, me and BobbyG last night on his 50th! En magnum! Baby fresh. I think it’s the November 2018 vintage! 2861249E-A968-4FB2-9C00-1914E9D8A7EA.jpeg It sucked. Now the Levet, funny enough, I just got in some 2005 today. Love these vintages. I wanted to bring a magnum of 04 Levet last night but Bobby...

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I do struggle with the fact that he was 17.

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The kid will now be - more so that even now - a far-right nut celeb!

OrlandoRobert

Killer vintage.

Had that 96 Ducru recently, it’s exceptional.

OrlandoRobert

Yet another case of 2014 Lanessan.

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Musigny 151 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:22 pm
But for me, the greatness of the 2016 are in wines further down the line. Not just the Pichons, Ducru, but . . . Chasse Spleen (which is the best I have ever tasted).

Agree 100%. I loaded up on it in 375s.

OrlandoRobert

A Lynch vertical in NYC or DC sounds good to me! Now take 2010 Pichon Baron… Now THERE is a second growth wine! To me, Lynch and PIchon Baron have been going in opposite directions for at least twenty, maybe thirty, years. To me, Montrose has been making some eye popping wines in the new millennium...

OrlandoRobert

Racer Chris wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:58 pm I agree with Comte.

Forest floor dwellers just don't know what it's like to swing in the treetops.

That is sous bois dwellers, to you, sir!

OrlandoRobert

I similarly have very fond memories of 1990, 1989 and 1986, getting into Bordeaux out of law school around the same time as you developing your passion. I have not tried a Lynch more recent than a 2005, but will concur, tough to compare to those amazing, classic vintages on which we cut our teeth. ...

OrlandoRobert

I similarly have very fond memories of 1990, 1989 and 1986, getting into Bordeaux out of law school around the same time as you developing your passion. I have not tried a Lynch more recent than a 2005, but will concur, tough to compare to those amazing, classic vintages on which we cut our teeth. P...

OrlandoRobert

Blanquito wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:19 pm Levet vs Gonon? I would take Levet even at the same price, but before the prices when insane (for the rest of us at least!) I was a big fan of Gonon.

Agreed, Levet is definitely more distinctive.

OrlandoRobert

Blanquito wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:58 pm
OrlandoRobert wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:04 pm 3 x 2017 Benetiere Cote Rotie
Man, have the prices for these gone crazy. I blame you (and Fu)!

At least Levet can still be had for reasonable coin. To wit:
3 x 2018 Levet Chavaroche ($60)

I won’t tell you how cheaply I still get my Gonon….

OrlandoRobert

Welcome on board, and very nice choices there!

Ducru B is almost always stunning, a recent 96 impressed me more than the 88 Latour served with it. Love the 2014 as well. Your choice of the Langoa Barton in 2014 is excellent, they stepped up!

OrlandoRobert

3 x 2017 Benetiere Cote Rotie

OrlandoRobert

I get the sense, Marcus, that you are trying to make the point that the far left is as bad as the far right. But I’m sorry, no, if that’s what you believe, then I respectfully disagree with you. The far left is pretty tough to take. But they are nothing compared to the QAnon crowd, who clearly want...

OrlandoRobert

You don’t go to a rally with an assault rifle and not expect consequences You don’t go to a rally with an assault weapon that you are legally entitled to carry and not expect consequences. Agree 100%. And is it not the height of irony, If not emblematic of a psychotic society, that one could attend...

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Gerry M. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:18 am On NH closeout picked up

4- 2016 Ch Gruaud-Larose $65/btl

Wow. A steal!

OrlandoRobert

Had the remaining 1/4 bottle last night, definitely ordering even more 14 and 09. This is Bordeaux.

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