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On the affordable side of things, I'd also recommend the 09 Gloria. In terms of elegance, I'd put it between the Haut Bergey and Giscours. It was also another one of those wines that improved 24 hours after opening. I think it'll prove to be a very nice wine and a very good deal. Makes me wonder abo...

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I should have paid more attention to the snow on the table rather than the railings. It clearly has way more snow on it! I agree that maintaining power is key. Hope ours doesn't go out. I've got a neighbor like yours too; aren't they great?! My neighbor's a retired guy with a love of his snow blower...

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Based on the amount of snow on the railings, doesn't look too bad. Snow just starting to fall here now. We've been told it will change to freezing rain and then liquid rain over night. It will be one hell of a mess.

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Thanks, Ken. Starr's book sounds interesting, as do the articles. I have access to the JHPPL here so can chase them down if I decide to read them.

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Maybe I should get myself a bottle of that juice. I could use a real man's wine since that storm of yours is supposed to hit us tomorrow evening. We've been told to expect 25 cm of snow. That's no where near 2', but it's bad enough. I don't look forward to the shoveling.

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A related bit from Decanter:
http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/ ... -merchants

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Those prices are nuts! I can't imagine how they'll translate up here in the Great White North! There's a lot of 06 in the system up here still, and its pricing is beginning to look mighty good. Might also be time to take another look at some 08s, eg., Pichon Baron, Pontet Canet, Haut Bailly, DomChev...

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"But if Nic finds violets in a dauzac, am I gonna go out and buy the 2010?" This statement by Jim over in the long thread caused me to think about the way we judge and assess wines. In going over my tasting notes, I noticed that a lot of them read alike. And when it comes down to it, they ...

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What a great response, Ken. I'm not sure how it will impact my wine buying and drinking habits, but I think I'll pick up Starr's book (or is it a published article?).

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I'm interested in his claim that the 09 supply is very low. Can that be verified? Do we have to buy big now, or forget it?

Has anybody seen the recent issue of the World of Fine Wine? Apparently it has a reassessment of 08! They're a pretty thorough bunch usually.

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Just a juxtaposition of two of John Gilman's "tweets" which I thought spoke to some of the issues being discussed in this thread: 1. "Magically soil-driven '83 Leoville-Poyferre recalls the salad days of property, when they always strutted their terroir but didn't sell well" 2. &...

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The only Luongo I know is a goalie for the Vancouver Canucks.

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Just read on Decanter's site that the 2010 Sociando sold for 15% less en primeur than the 09! Good news.
http://www.decanter.com/bordeaux-2010/e ... en-primeur

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I'm either lazy or forgetful, Jim, but did you taste -- and review -- the 09 Sociando yet? Trying to decide whether to pull the trigger on it, or pick up what few 05s remain on the shelf here.

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After day 4 this continues to improve. Specifically, the brightness that I found too sharp upon opening continues to tone down resulting in what is for me a wine with a better balance between the tannins and the acid. I hope someone else will try it; perhaps giving it a long decant first. It remains...

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What, no Sociando? Or do you already have some? Also, for those looking for a more affordable option, the Haut Batailley is worth taking a look at in its 09 guise. Since raising the game at Ducru Beaucaillou and GPL, the Borie group seem to be turning their attention to Haut Batailley. Which makes m...

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In HIS own voice:
http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/rob ... re-of-wine

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Modern Pessac may be gone for the lovers of old style Bdx. I remember reading somewhere -- wish I could remember where -- that Pessac had moved more towards the right bank in wine making technique than any other left bank region. As far as Haut Bailly goes, does anyone own the 08s? HB is supposed to...

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By today's standards 04 wasn't horribly priced either, and it did suffer P's ratings. The price of a bottle of 09 PC blows me away when I recall what I paid for the 04s (taking the horrible Canadian tax structure into account, it would translate to about $40 USD). O4 is the only year that I bought t...

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Day 3 and things are looking up. Drinking it with pasta and red sauce this evening. It's still a bright wine, but not as tart or austere as it seemed last evening. It still has its red fruit profile (raspberries, cranberries, currents), the cedar and mineral, but it also has an improved back-end gri...

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And what shall we call it, Cante Segur, or Phelanmerle?

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Jim How -- east coast American lawyer Robert Parker -- east coast American lawyer Robert Parker -- called the Emperor of Wine JIm How -- called the Beneficent Dictator of a wine site Robert Parker -- writes about the wines of Bordeaux Jim How -- writes about the wines of Bordeaux Robert Parker -- ha...

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Day 2 and I'm not sure how much I care for this. Seems tarter and more austere today. I recall liking the 06 better, although it's probably been more than a year since I've had a bottle.

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I have an uncle who lives on Mulholland Dr. He made his fortune in media. He could probably afford a bottle of PLL, maybe even LLC.

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That's what they want you to believe!

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Ah yes, 1982! Can it be a mere coincidence that that was the year in which Ronald Reagan was shot?

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I haven't voted yet, because I can't decide. Is Parker responsible for Chinese billionaires wanting Lafite? I don't even know how to determine such a thing. Maybe someone in a sociology department might be able to devise an appropriate method; or someone in marketing. There is, however, one thing ou...

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Just opened this. Now this is different again from either the Gloria, the Giscours, or the Haut Bergey. It's medium bodied, thus lighter than the other 09s I've tried. Brighter and with more of an edge, i.e., not as round as so many other 09s. Ripe fruit, but more red than black: red currents, raspb...

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I don't think you can go wrong with that, Jim. I'll tell you what wouldn't be worth it -- the Phelan Segur. It was quite a bit spoofier than the HB. It had no hint, for example, of that "light on its feet" quality. All gooey and thickly viscous.

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I was with you Orlando Bob, until I saw those rings on her left hand! Damn, I wish I could get Haut Bergey for $25! Not even close!!!

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Dan, can you be goaded into doing an AB tasting between the 05 and 09?

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Jim, you sure know how to get BWEers to post. I'm not so sure about the comparison of taste in drink to slavery though. And if you want to apply that principle to the question of human order, if the minority insists that it is right, you can end up in some very nasty political places (I think they c...

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Okay, I may not be the wine advocate, but I think I'd like to play devil's advocate for the moment. 1. How can 09 be a great vintage if it's just another Parkerized vintage where all the wines taste the same? 2. In a related vein, if some of us are declaring our love of a thinner style over the thic...

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Maybe his impact on price isn't all it's cracked up to be:
http://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/a201301312.html

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I don't know if I'd give it 95; 91-92 maybe. Still, it's a nice wine, and well worth adding a few bottles to the cellar.

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I opened this 24 hours ago. I wasn't quite sure what I thought at the time, but after 24 hours things are a little clearer. It's got the 2009 signature -- plush, ripe, soft, dark red and black fruit; and lots of licorice. Some herbal elements, and a touch of menthol and maybe a bit of tar on the end...

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I'm sold on 05 and 06 and have bundles of both. I'm keeping 05 ahead of 09 because I like it's structure better. 09s are just a little too round for me. They're not as flabby as an 03 SHL, in fact the one's I've tasted so far aren't really flabby at all, but they don't have quite the edge I like. 04...

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Guys, don't be put off trying a bottle of Haut Bergey. Try a single bottle before making up your minds. There are worse ways of spending $30-$35. Like Jim I bought an initial 6, and probably won't buy any more, at least not at this time. But I'm not disappointed to have my 6 and will be pleased to s...

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I guess there's a bit of consensus forming around this wine. I think it might have a bit more oomph than what I'm otherwise reading here, and I still see it as a pretty good value play. It's head and shoulders above the Phelan Segur (although I seem to be the only person who dislikes this wine, most...

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