Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

William P

Great note Nic. I have a few of the 2014 DdC resting in the cellar. I'll give them a few more years before I test them. Sadly, the meat accompaniment will not be moose.

Bill

William P

Being thankful that I am drinking wine this Thanksgiving, I opened two bottles last night. I decided to retest the Potel tree of wines after my slight confusion over my last Potel. This time I opened the 2005 Charmes-Chambertin. No official notes from last night but this is my impression. A lovely w...

William P

Thanks Ian. Well done.

Bill

William P

Sometime today I should get my bi-annual St. Innocent Wine Club shipment. Six bottles - 2017 Shea, Momtazi, Justice (2), 2016 Justice (2)

William P

Finally!

William P

Antoine wrote:Forey does not hold all of gaudichots small parts.

Thanks for setting the facts straight.

William P

Thanks Ian, didn't mean to misquote you.

William P

sisler wrote:Does anyone have experience with Pontet Canet 2014?

As I recall Ian (Comte) liked the 2014 Pontet.

William P

This I do not understand, Bill. Bill, circa 1933 DRC La Tache bought Liger-Belair La Tache. This is from La Tache wiki but I've confirmed this information from other sources. It's explains the politics. Up until 1932, the neighbouring vineyard of Les Gaudichots could be sold either under its own na...

William P

Just to give a little historical background on the rumor of Potel and La Tache. A portion of the Les Gaudichots (LG) vineyard was sold to La Tache and incorporated into La Tache wines. Since 1932 those LG vineyards owned by La Tache could be sold as either La Tache or LG. My understanding is Forey o...

William P

Joel, while I drink Bordeaux and collect them, I also have a few burgs. Over my life I have consumed some Grand Cru. Nothing prepared me for this flavor profile. I've read many of the burgheads talk about tasting the terrior and minerality therefrom but I never seen nothing like "you". The...

William P

So there is rumor that this is declassified La Tache. Not being a frequent visitor to the rarified world of Burgundy I'm not in a position to pontificate. On the nose is a subdued but lovely dark fruit, leather and minerals. A very Burgundian nose. Nicely balanced, a good mix of fruit, acid and stil...

William P

As I am sure you are aware, our profession (my former profession) has more than a few "health" side effects.

William P

3 Chateau La Gaffeliere - Clos La Gaffeliere 2015. the second label of La Gaffeliere. $27.00 a bottle. This is made with the younger vines of La Gaffeliere. The Chateau says that they vinify in the same manner as L Gaffeliere except it spends only one year in oak. I had a bottle before this purchase...

William P

I had the 2013 Shea last night. For me the 2013 has been a problem child since its release. It was rough and disjointed. Finally last night the wine had melded and was drinking beautifully. I was showing some signs of maturity but it was far from over the hill. No formal notes but it is in a much be...

William P

Ian, you can't trust NM because he also said: The 2014 Domaine de Chevalier has a classy, quite sophisticated bouquet with blackberry, boysenberry, graphite and brine aromas that feels very well defined. The palate is medium-bodied with sappy red berry fruit, quite saline in the mouth with a brisk, ...

William P

Domaine Tempier was one on my first cellar wines. Unfortunately i drank them early. Also they produced the only Rose that I enjoyed. RIP Lulu.

William P

My 2014 buys are certainly not as prodigious as others here but my value purchases were:

Domaine de Chevalier
GPL
Rauzan Segla
La Lagune
Branaire Ducru

William P

Some would say that Eddie was the best of this generation and equal to or better than Clapton, Page, and Beck. Sadly his later years were destroyed by drugs and alcohol.

Bill

William P

Sorry Nic.

bill

William P

The 2015 Meyney is a blend of 52% Merlot, 40% Cabernet Sauvignon and 8% Petit Verdot. Upon opening the nose was expressive with earth, berries, and sandalwood. Later there was an slight herbal component. The wine was well balance with tannins, acid, and fruit. The tannin are roundish and far from ru...

William P

Racer Chris wrote:Meyney was better in both 2014 and 2016, but I wouldn't blink at the 2015 for $22.50

At 22.50 I have a hard time finding quaffers, so I think I "done good" on this purchase.

William P

jckba wrote:1/2 bottle?

No, 750 ml.

William P

6 - 2015 - Ch. Meyney $22.50

William P

Good spot to purpose. Congrats Michael and Nalan.

And happy anniversary Ed and Lisa.

Bill

William P

I discovered during a visit a few years ago that they made wine on Vancouver Island. I also discovered after visiting a few wineries that it was not that palatable. Maybe with time they will fine the right grapes and processes.

Bill

William P

Nice score Jacques.

William P

The 2000 Brane-Cantenac is a blend of 42% Cabernet Sauvignon, 55% Merlot and 3% Cabernet Franc. An expressive nose of dark pit fruit, earth and later evolving a floral vanilla. Very attractive nose from the opening. After 10 minute the nose screams I'm from Bordeaux. The 20 year wine has great balan...

William P

Blanquito wrote:Branaire has quietly become my go-to chateau, replacing/supplementing the likes of Sociando, Cantemerle and La Lagune.

Agreed Patrick, Branaire is the only wine that I have a small vertical for 14,15, and 16. Having said that I still buying La Lagune and Cantemerle.

Bill

William P

2014 Grand Puy LaCoste (2)
2016 La Lagune. (1)

William P

I always laugh at our fascination with the best where the issue is so subjective at this time. I suspect that all three vintage will have superb wines. I look forward to this discussion in 15 years, if I'm still around. :) As pointed out by others each vintage has its strengths. Again time will tell...

William P

it's sounds like a great evening. Looking forward to the results. Greetings to all the participants.

William P

Personally, I think 16 is the best of three excellent years. However, like the 95/96 battle, I suspect time will tell, and even then opinions will differ.

Bill

William P

https://www.winespectator.com/articles/ ... ss-cellars

William P

Jim the 2016 Lafon Rochet is also a very pretty wine and about $10.00 cheaper than the Malartic. Its body is leaner that the Malartic but still has the stuffing to please. Again, 14, 15 and 16 will be memorable.

William P

A little off topic but had the 2016 Malartic the other day. Your description still holds for this vintage also. Very smooth, tannins offset by ripe fruit. Medium plus body but not flabby at all. Average acidity making for a well balanced wine. This modern style seems to allow both pleasant drinking ...

William P

Your hypothetical said one bottle of Margaux not two. Next, why can't 16 surpass the 86 which was good but hardly transcendent year. So if you buy the Margaux, you have two bottles on very good wine, which only adds to your cellar of overflowing "very good wines." Obviously, this is all JF...

William P

Mouton.

My logic:
Margaux excellent wine from a very good year. You have tons of this type of wine in your cellar.
19 Tour St. Do you really need another case of quaffers?
Mouton. Great wine from a transcendent year. Even Neal gave it 100 pts.

Bill

William P

AKR wrote:the cork seemed to be an agglomerated type.

Arv is this a DIAM cork. I read these are taint free. I also read that they are so snug that it does not allow for aging since air doesn't penetrate. I believe Jadot uses DIAM exclusively.

Bil

William P

2 - 2016 La Lagune. $54.00

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