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Antoine

Producer, producer... right drinking window... I try to limit my exploration of new producers despite the price gaps... Ref Clos Vougeot this always requires a lot of time and 2002 style fitted well the grand cru as it softened the toughness (Grivot CV 2002 is stellar) Thanks a lot Ian and Alex for ...

Antoine

What's this? Is he still president? Thought the nutter would be long gone by now...

Antoine

Weooah...where did you get all these bottles?... You drink well....Well done
Think about a white Burg producer we must visit next time in Burgundy.

Antoine

I am getting scared. I broke the bank for Pontet canet and Montrose and have only tasted Pontet canet so far (with Tesseron and co with Ian). What is your advice? Should I Montrose or not?

Antoine

Excellent report Comte! I have a lot of 2004s as it is my (2nd) wedding year...although none of these. Had Pichon Lalande and VCC over the last year and both were very great.

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Thanks Jim

Antoine

Thanks Jim for the report. I bought 3. Any idea about a drinking window?

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It would not ...

Just joking...

Antoine

Do not bother with Bordeaux 2015....go Burgundy 2015...

Glad some people liked Rauzan Segla, Canon, Chevalier as I got some... and Cantenac Brown? Any good?

Antoine

Good to read as I bought Canon (3) Rauzan (6) Chevalier (1) and Cantenac Brown (1) plus 3 tour St Christophe. Pity about PLL as I love the stuff but a bit pricey... Mind you choice was dictated by this forum...

Antoine

My bottles are in Provence so not before Easter. The village plot is located quite away from the 1er cru spot. So no reason it shoudl taste anywhere like the 1er cru (higher altitude, not same orientation...). Note, Anne Gros, Mugnier (blended with 1er cru plantes to make Mugnier village), Grivot, D...

Antoine

The Combe orveaux is my poor man Musigny. I have the TM 2012 and 2015 but not the 2011. Maybe I should try the Combe d'Orveaux Clavelier 2011 as the TM won't be so approachable

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And Moulis? Where is Moulis?

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Fourrier Gevrey VV 2016 6 pack

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Was the TM Combe ready to drink or should we wait?

Antoine

I have a box of calon 2006 and nerver dared to touch it. Is it any good and any ready?

Antoine

1989 is the only bottle I have got...so probably is the best (and the worst)

Antoine

What a thread! Very depressing...
Love the wine (got a case of 2003 and 2005) which is a pleasure wine. Not so many in Bordeaux unless you wait at least 15 years

Antoine

Got my bill for 2015 VAT and added a bottle of Cantenac Brown following his words. (others include 6 Rauzan segla, 3 Canon, 3 tour st Christophe and 1 domaine de chevalier.
Just worried theyll take decades to be ready.

Antoine

I was at the Pontet Canet dinner with Alex, Ian and Tesseron, I own a case of 2003 and I have drunk other vintages a very few times. Good wines no question. But I have had great experiences with Pichon Baron and Lalande quite a few times, never with Pontet Canet. On the other hand, none of the Comme...

Antoine

Go for Corton...Charlemagne if you don't want disappointment. Also 2005 definitely better for red than white Burgs. I personally prefer the Meursaults 1er crus and also Puligny, Chassagne and Saint Aubin (the 1er crus can be splendid QPRs) Domaine de Chevalier not bad either but pricey... (no more t...

Antoine

Alex,
You are the Super Hero,
It seems part of the problem is distribution?
Other part is small chateaux are seen as inferior growth and people are reluctant to go for inferior. .. which is a bit unfair as they are not inferior when young...they just need less time to mature...

Antoine

I missed this gathering but had the chance to taste the Barbaresco 1990 last week and it was truly an excellent wine. Thanks for the report.

Antoine

No, the big have not got better than the small but: - Prices have gone up a lot - Big negociants can spend a lot more of money in marketing - They get more exposure and publicity - The small producers don't do more marketing as they continue to do what they used to (visits,...) and they rely on repu...

Antoine

Ian,
We need to talk about these tastins. Is it with a meal or do you hav to drink the stuff without a bite? ... Imay be interested to join

Antoine

I bought 1985 (at INSEAD!), 2002 and 2004... All excellent!...but not the hyped vintages.

Antoine

jckba wrote:
AlohaArtakaHoundsong wrote:Didn't Lynch just purchase this property?
No, Lynch bought Haut Batailley which was once part of the same property as Batailley but not since it was split.

MMMh? Last I checked Haut Batailley and Grand Puy Lacoste have the same owner and it is not Lynch Bages...

Antoine

Indeed if the date fits.
By the way, I opened and Echezeaux Daniel Rion 2011 and it was almost excellent (bar the greenies).

Antoine

Ian, You love your Beychevelle! Have not had any recent vintage but have never been very impressed... certainly not worthy of the Pichons (which I prefer to the Pontet Canet) . Obviously better than Dufort Vivens... although I hear last vintages much better than before. Caveat: youngest I have had a...

Antoine

Red Burg: - Vosne, Chambolle, Gevrey (Volnay for value) White Burg: - Meursault, Puligny, Chassagne (St Aubin for value) Red Bordeaux: - St Julien, St Emilion, Pauillac (ask Alex for value) White Bordeaux: - Pessac, Sauternes, Barsac (but best Monbazillac are top) Personal message Comte, please spel...

Antoine

Excellent dinner with grreat company and superb food...and wines. I can clarify that Alfred started to have a growing influence and take over during the 1990-1993 period under Dad's supervision until he dared to defy Dad in 1994, So, it was a progressive thing. Ref 2003, both tables had a bottle and...

Antoine

Great trip Alex! Great wines as well I suppose.

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Too many recommendations!!!.... Can't figure which are worth buying

Antoine

I bought only 3 wines: Calon segur, Lynch bages and Gazin. Have not opened a bottle yet...

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Ian,
Super, I have a 6 packs in La Roque for next climb... was planning to open the first in 2023...what's going on? Is Leoville Barton making friendlier young wines?

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Comte Flaneur

Sure you don't forget one of your favorites?..

By the way Taupenot Merme is the name.Maume is another producer...

Antoine

Based on quantities bought over last 10 years My top producers : Grivot, Fourrier, Barthod, Mugneret Gibourg, Roumier then Hudelot Noellat My under the radar: Laurent, Clerget, Voillot, Bichot (for Vosne Malconsorts and a few Amoureuses), Chevillon, Gouges, Bart Top villages: Fourrier Clos Solon and...

Antoine

Bought a lot of wines by the case (12) in 2005 Pessac: Smith haut Lafitte rouge, Fieuzal blanc Margaux: Boyd Cantenac, Blason d'Issan St Julien: Branaire Ducru, Pauillac: Haut Batailley, St Estephe: Dame de Montrose Pomerol: Feytit Clinet, Beauregard St Emilion: L'Arrosee, Clos de l'Oratoire, Fonbel...

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I have a couple bottles of 2004 and a full case of 2005 I never opened... Probably will have to wait another 10 years before I open one.... Bummer...

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We always have it around Xmas of course. I go through Doisy Daene 2005 (a 24 half bottles case) and La Tour Blanche 2001 (bottles) and rarely other ones (when we have WIMPS lunch in London).

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