Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

JimHow

Give me 1990 GPL anytime over 2003. ooh, boy, I distinctly remember you praising a 2003 GPL you had with Alex, Nicola, I remember it because I thought that wine was crap. Personally, I think 2003 wines, left and right bank, have been consistently very delicious. And i think we have historically see...

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I uncorked my last bottle of 2004 Pol Roger with my law school buddies earlier this month and it was in a good place.

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Gerry, why was there no Pol Roger in stock this year in New Hampshire?

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And of course the beautiful Eleanor Roosevelt piece in the Atlantic:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... se/305459/

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And the Atlantic article bt Hitchens mentioned in the previous article:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ts/306061/

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Interesting thread.

interesting article on churchill and champagne;

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/20 ... nearly-did

Just got the new books delivered yesterday on De Gaulle and Churchill, looking forward to them.

JimHow

I had a few bottles of Clos des Lambrays back in the day when it was like $25 per bottle, it has now gotten a little pricey for my budget.

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Thanks for the summary GBF, Meyney really seems like a property that has its act together.
I’m picking up my case of 2016 Meyney in the coming week.

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You’re preaching to the choir on 2003 Bordeaux.
I’ve rarely had a disappointing 2003, from either bank of the river.
I had some Clos des Lambrays back in the day when they were like $25 per bottle, they are a little out of my range now.

JimHow

It was a favorite at our recent Thanksgiving dinner.

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I'm telling you, Hound, that 2014 Meyney is a beauty.

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It seems that Neal Martin is not as high on 2016 as other critics.

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I’m telling you, 2014 left bank is special.
Just a couple anecdotal scores I saw from Neil Martin have me wondering a little.
For example, he has the 2015 Leoville Barton as being better than the ‘16.

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Exactly. I'm telling you, 2014 northern Medoc is one of the great Bordeaux vntages of the past 20 years, especially when you factor in price.

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I bought a case of 2016 Meyney in stock at Zachys, but I think the consensus is that 2014 is better.
How can that be if 2016 is supposed to be so extraordinary?
I looked at whats-his-name's scores of the 2016s in the Advocate, they don't seem so awesome to me.
Is 2016 overrated?

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Good stuff!

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Very nice.
I had a 1971 Latour once that was corked.

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I started drinking Bordeaux wine in the late 1990s. I remember drinking those "young" Bordeauxs then like 1989 Lynch, 1986 Gruaud Larose, 1988 LLC, etc. Those wines at age 10-15 tasted different than the wines I drink today that are 10-15 years old. They were better, with more complexity. ...

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We had a nice Thanksgiving in Maine, the niece Anna and nephew Jack keep growing and thriving, these kids are super smart, Jack is now officially taller than me at age 15. I brought the wines, 2003 Sociando Mallet, 2002 Leoville Barton, some California wine called Prisoner that one of my old law sch...

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The 1979 Gruaud Larose that Tom and Gail brought to my house (with the $25 sticker still on it) was one of my wines of the year.

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With the holidays upon us, it is time to start thinking about the BWE wine of the year. And what a year it has been! Past winners: 2000: 1996 Sociando-Mallet 2001: 1989 Lynch-Bages 2002: 1995 d'Yquem 2003: 1999 Haut Brion Blanc 2004: 2000 Pichon Baron and 2000 du Tertre 2005: 2000 Margaux 2006: 2003...

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Yes, AKR, I believe it is the most basic bottling, I paid like $32 in NH.

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I too generally agree with BN's sentiments.
These modern wines just aren't agining like those 1980s Bordeauxs.

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Gerry, i bought a few bottles of this on your recommendation and really liked the one I tried, nicely ripe but balanced and smooth for such a young Italian wine.
I don't know much about Barbaresco, can you tell me more about this wine and what else I should be looking for?

JimHow

I haven’t had much experience with Grand Puy Ducasse. I recall the 2005 as being eh, kind of boring.

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Clearly the wine changes over time. It will eventually be over the hill. But you’d still rate it 95 after it’s faded? Yes David. That is indeed what I mean. And I think that's what Robert Parker means as well. That's the whole idea behind rating wines in their infancy. If in April 2006 Robert Parke...

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GPD is like not even supermarket level wine.
It belongs in the local convenience store with Boones Farm and Blue Nun.
At least GPL would be good with like pizza or Thai food if it were available in the $12-15 price range.

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I can't argue with him. But a rating of 95? It is like this wine is better now that it will ever be later. Like Robert Parker, Nicola, I rate a wine with the assumption that it is going to evolve with age. Therefore, I don't give a wine a score of, say, 93 points, with the assumption that it will &q...

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I have no Conseillante in my cellar. I intend to get one bottle each of the 2016 Conseillante, Figeac, Baron, and Comtesse, those will be my expensive purchases from 2016. The rest will be the usual suspects: Leoville Barton, Giscours, Meyney, Chasse Spleen, Sociando, Brane Cantenac, Cantemerle, Bar...

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Maybe a point or two high out of enthusiasm, Nicola, but it is a really nice wine. Very legitimate stuff, there is nothing fly-by-night here.
I wonder what Jeff Leve rates it, he likes this estate.
I’ll let my case of 2016 Tour St. Christophe sit there for about 8 years.

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It was pretty vile but damned we had ourselves convinced it was going to catch on.

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This seems unnatural, incestuous, unholy, Frankensteinian.

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When we were young kids my two brothers and I mixed orange juice and Coca Cola and we called it “Orangucola.”
We convinced ourselves that it was good and that we were on to something.

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I like La Tour Carnet but I believe it should be consumed upon releasee.

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My case of $23 per bottle 2016 Tour St. Christophe arrived recently.

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I was just reading back through this thread, including leading up to and through election night 2016.
There is some amazing stuff in here.

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1-5%.

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True indeed Chris.
This wine is seductive though.
I think it is a Racer Chris kind of wine.
The price is good, and I think it is a drink-now-and-for-next-fifteen-years kind of wine.

JimHow

The NFL is a joke. I mean, come on, this is silly. Ok great, NFL football with NO defense. Riiiiight. But the ‘15 Tour St. Christophe is not a joke. This wine is truly the real deal. I detected none of the intrusive alcohol this time. Again, why wait to age this wine. It is stunning now. This is way...

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Back from another great trip to Paris, second time I was there in three months! Wow, I love that place. Uncorked this puppy for dinner tonight, I recall not liking it quite as much as the '14 the first time around, only because I thought the alcohol was just a touch more out of balance than the beau...

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