Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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You are a good man, Mr. Golodetz, I still say one of my most epic moments in BWE history was at the NYC '03 convention when I was sipping a 1967 Petrus handed to me from you in my left hand and a 1997 Petrus handed to me in my right hand from some pleasant young man from Indonesia named Rudy, who h...

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VCC
Magdelaine
Pichon Lalande
DDC pre 1990
Haut Brion 2005 and earlier
Giscours
Issan
Montrose
Latour
Palmer

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Thomas Keller has a trick with the wine in Coq au Vin. He boils it and sets it alight. It gets rid of any astringency, and the depth of flavor increases. We tried it with and simply trying to boil off the alcohol, and Keller’s was much better. Other tip, use frozen baby pearl onions.

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This is Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts Mr G. Not Bordeaux Wine Anonymous. :D You don't come here and say, hi my name is Mark and it's been two hours since my last wine purchase. You come here and say I have been offered x amounts of wine, should I buy it all? Hoping for encouragement. I did take all, ,w...

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I am done buying. I went a little nuts this weekend buying a ton of VCC , and this morning the same vendor offered me some pristine bottles of 1982 Magdelaine. Yes, I took them, and as I was going through my inventory, realized I now have ridiculous amounts of both chateaux, so canceled a few of the...

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JimHow wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:00 am Thanks, I can get it $189 tax free, I'll probably get a bottle.

If you can buy it for $189 grab it. Both Pavie and Angelus were able to get a 50% plus increase when they were promoted to GRAND CRU. Figeac will no doubt follow.

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1979 was a strong vintage for Pomerol. Although I have had little luck with Petrus, which always seemed slightly insipid, Trotanoy, VCC and Lafleur are very good ( I have had a couple of pruney Lafleurs). I had thought I had finished my last bottle of the Certan several years ago, so happy to find a...

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2014s are amazing values, but then you have to like the style. I do so I buy.

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Just received a massive offer of older VCC in great condition. I bought bottles of 1974 and 1994 which I need for my vertical, and two magnums and several bottles of 1982.

There is more 1982 left and several other vintages. PM me if you want details.

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The question of whether a wine closes down seems to be a vintage by vintage phenomenon. And from my experience, it tends to occur across the vintage as a whole. The worst offender was 2005 that closed down a year after bottling, and only now is emerging. Can’t think of another vintage recently that ...

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May you live long and prosper. And by opening the bottle, know there is plenty to live for.

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Youse guys. Good Bordeaux is not out of its diapers until it hits its twenty first birthday.

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Yes it is good; minor key Magdelaine.

$85 is about right.

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Shipping rates are all over the place, so hard to come up with a figure. I use to budget $120 a case, it is now nearly double and I ship by the pallet. That being said, I buy a lot of wine in Europe particularly UK. For one thing provenance is likely to be better, so older vintages seem to be more r...

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I wrote an article many moons ago comparing the cost of a filet mignon for two to a current vintage of Lynch. Article long since disappeared but at the time, around 1994, Lynch was $45 and the filet $28.

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Comte Flaneur wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:02 am
Musigny 151 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm Verset Cornas 1991
Lanessan 2005
Lanessan 1995
Albert Morot Beaune 1989
How much did the Verset 91 set you back Mark?

2 bottles £1250

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Verset Cornas 1991
Lanessan 2005
Lanessan 1995
Albert Morot Beaune 1989

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Talk to James at Crump Richmond. He I had been my go to for Magdelaine, and it is rare I am forced to buy a full case.

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Giscours 1979 is my Eureka wine. Still decent but beginning its downward evolution. Last tasted May 2022 and a 92 point wine.

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My three favorite producers in order are Ecard, Pavelot and Bize. All have a capacity to age. I seem to remember there are some 1993 Ecard Serpentiere at Belmont for around $100, which may be a lot for a Savigny but can be enjoyed immediately. Love Bize but they are also a little pricier nowadays. ...

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Racer Chris wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:53 pm I would say 1982 Talbot but I've only had it once. Therefore I'll go with 1986 Rausan-Segla. Each time I've had it, I thought it was better than the previous bottle.

One of my standard tastings when I met a new client was to taste the Rauzan versus the Margaux 1986. Invariably the Rauzan won

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1961 Trotanoy

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BTW the even better but far less ready 2005 is available in the UK for around the same price.

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Yes a no brainer at that price. Powerful wine and easily the same quality as the First Growths.

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My three favorite producers in order are Ecard, Pavelot and Bize. All have a capacity to age. I seem to remember there are some 1993 Ecard Serpentiere at Belmont for around $100, which may be a lot for a Savigny but can be enjoyed immediately.

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This thread promises to be interesting, although a challenge to those with faulty memories. Going with 12 VCC 1949 1953 and 1961, honorable mention 1985 Magdelaine 1985 honorable mention 1998 Lafleur 1998 La Tache 1972 Coche Enseigneurs 2009 Krug Clos de Mesnil 2002 Dujac Clos Saint Denis 1996 Suene...

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Suenen Les Robarts 2014.
My new best Champagne.

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Lunch at the kitchen table at the Modern. Food fantastic, wines showed very well. From the very large and interesting list came the Suenen. Pricing was reasonable, $310. A friend had turned me on to the grower, and I have had the non vintage, which was excellent, but this was far more interesting, h...

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Issan
Giscours
Branaire
Lagrange
Ferriere

Pichon Lalande and Montrose have great qpr compared to the first growths of the same quality level. Palmer just scraped out on qpr, although I think it is the best super second

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Sadly most of the properties of Bordeaux were in serious financial trouble in 1982. Selection or throwing away grapes in green harvest, second wines were for a very few. Recession and scandals did not make life easy. 1982 changed things, but still I don’t think it was until the early to mid nineties...

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Jim, you need to get out more.

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1 and 3
Having just done the vertical, the wines are superb. This 1979 was unusually mediocre.

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Thanksgiving dinner with friends. Before we left there were half a dozen wild turkeys relaxing in our yard. Seems that they had figured that the danger was over and they could afford to relax. The heritage version at our friends’ house was less lucky. An incredibly moist bird, accompanied by a fanta...

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The other thing to remember is that when 1982 came over, very few people had wine cellars. The new generation of wine collectors certainly did not have them, and I suspect a large percentage of the wines that came to the US spent some years in rooms at the wrong temperature. European sourced wines a...

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The 2010 Pichon is quite good, but the ‘05 is nowhere near as good as Baron, which doesn’t happen very often.

I think the 1989 might be a good start, but still vote for Magdelaine.

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Giscours last great vintage from the golden period was 1981. 1982 started the rot, and I have found that although the wines improved starting with mid nineties (1998 was a surprising success) things started looking good with the 2010. I agree, Ducru taint problems may have started earlier, except I ...

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Just bought 6 half bottles of Prum Eiswein GK 1998. Really excited by this. Tasted several years ago, and never forgot how great it was, so grabbed them when it was offered.

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My nominations would be two each from three chateau: - La Mission Haut-Brion 1961 and 1982 (or the 1988 which is much more accessible price wise) - Palmer 1999 and 2010 (echoing Musigny) - Magdelaine 1985 and 1998 I love the idea of Magdelaine. Interesting award for a dead chateau. The 1985 is so d...

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Ah 1996, what a vintage in Saint Julien and the entire Médoc. I always thought that the Léoville Barton is a winner in that vintage. I tasted it en primeur, loved it and bought a couple of cases. Now down to practically nothing. I think it needs five years. The tannins are already integrated, and a...

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Since there is little hope for another Pomerol 2014 to win, I will stifle any call for 2014 VCC. So I think I will go for an Uber Medoc, the utterly brilliant if totally unready 2010 Palmer. If the merchants in 1855 could have tasted this wine, they would have crowned it as a First Growth.

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