Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

DavidG

Who was the guy that wrote the extensive tasting notes? A young guy. He was there - was he ITB? Was that Max?

DavidG

I remember that bottle of Pape Clement, Jim... I think a good many (but probably not all) of these "New-Worldy" Bordeaux will mellow out just fine with 15-20 years ageing. If I am proven wrong, Comte, in the full course of time, I will meekly submit to drinking all of your 2000 Margaux as ...

DavidG

In the main BWE DC '09 thread, Stefan and Jim came up with a theme for the blind tasting at Charlie Palmer Steak on Saturday night, and I'm starting this thread to pick the wines and source them. The theme is: Bordeaux from the Golden Decade of the 1980s, or... Bordeaux from Before Nic Could Legally...

DavidG

I'm with Stefan. A few '00s were approachable young. Grand Pontet, Prieure Lichine, Monbousquet, Giscours are a few examples in my experience. Most of the others are going to sleep in my cellar for at least another 5 years. The best for probably 10. Though I do appreciate the notes from those willin...

DavidG

Getting down to our last few bottles of this one. It just keeps getting better. 1995 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape (2/4/2009) Dark red to rim. Big forward nose of cherry, leather, tar, smoked meats, garrigue. Medium-full ...

DavidG

She's written a book on Parker called The Emperor of Wine - I've never read it but it seemed to garner a lot of interest amongst his followers on eRP.

DavidG

Peggy said she was in the mood for something good to go with grilled rib-eyes last night, and Shafer HS has been a long-time favorite, so we opened our last bottle of the 1992: 1992 Shafer Cabernet Sauvignon Hillside Select - USA, California, Napa Valley, Stags Leap District (2/6/2009) Dark red to r...

DavidG

This is the most logical thing I've heard all week on the stimulus. Speaking of the stimulus package...

The talking heads on the news have had me chuckling over the notion of Obama having to justify the size of his "package."

DavidG

Good point, Jim. Everyone seemed to get it right, but just in case, I used a little moderator magic to go back and add that info to Howard's post with the Priceline instructions.

DavidG

National airport is much closer and a less expensive cab ride to the hotel than BWI. Rick, here's the MARC train schedule for the Penn Line , which goes from BWI airport to DC's Union Station. The fare is $6. A cab from BWI to DC would probably be well over $50. If you do fly in to BWI and take the ...

DavidG

Rick, there is a local train that goes from BWI airport to Union Station in DC. It runs about once an hour. I think it costs about $6. It leaves from the BWI Amtrak station, which is about 2 miles from the airport and is a free shuttle ride from BWI airport.

DavidG

I got it too, arriving Thursday, checking out Sunday. Great work as usual Howard, thanks!

DavidG

Dominus is more Bdx-like than Pride, but it's still a Cali Cab. I still have a few in the cellar, but haven't bought any in years.

DavidG

Been going through some of the California wines that have been sitting in the cellar just holding on. Not expecting a whole lot of magic in the bottle, but a nice drink. 2000 Pride Mountain Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve - USA, California, Napa Valley (2/2/2009) Dark red to rim. Bright red fru...

DavidG

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Metro stops at Union Station. Yes, much cheaper than cabs. I would prefer a hotel near a Metro stop, but I'm not fussy.
Alch, you should join us.

DavidG

Charlie Palmer is walking distance from Union Station.

I like the Metro, but people seemed to favor cabs over Metro last time. Perhaps because of lack of familiarity. Fares weren't too bad then.

DavidG

I plan to check in Thursday, check out Sunday...

DavidG

I think we'll need to correct that this spring, Jim...

DavidG

The in-laws have a very nice stash there - '89 Lynch goes for more like $250+ and should be drinking beautifully if well stored.

DavidG

I spent an overnight or two in Providence doing some consulting back then. I remember the cabbies always had a colorful story about the mayor's latest exploits. The Brown campus is nice, though. Reminded me of my days at RPI - nice campus overlooking a toilet bowl of a city.

DavidG

No apologies necessary, Otto! Your notes and palate are very consistent. To me, that is more valuable than whether we have similar preferences. I know I can depend on your descriptions.

DavidG

Wow! What a tasting! Hope you had time to enjoy some of those. Sounds like you are a fan of the Ch. de la Gardine, as am I - almost every one rang your chimes in this tasting.

DavidG

I think Otto may be describing the same wine you had, Jim - green and herbaceous rather than overtly fruity. Some people really enjoy that and see it as a hallmark of classic Bdx. Others like lush ripe fruit, the riper and lusher the better, and can't stand even a hint of herbaceousness. And some li...

DavidG

Clearly the OZ wines we get in the US differs from what is typically available to you domestically. Blame it on the hype and scores if you like, but the impression of the average US wine enthusiast is driven at least in part by what we have for purchase in the stores. I have had a few of the wines o...

DavidG

Good to hear these are not over-ripe. Sounds like the Clos des Papes is ready to go, but the Pegau would benefit from a nice long sleep in the cellar.

DavidG

You got it almost exactly - Virtual Live Tasting is a live chat where we all get online together in a chat room rather than the BB and share contemporaneous impressions.

DavidG

1998 Shafer Cabernet Sauvignon Hillside Select - USA, California, Napa Valley, Stags Leap District (1/31/2009) Purple core, dark red at rim. Medium-intensity nose of cassis, herb/veggie, tar, and cedar. Medium-full body, fruit, veggies, and tar carry through to palate, nice balance, thinner and les...

DavidG

Ridge Lytton, the old Lytton Lytton Springs, Geyserville, and Pagani were among my favorite zins for years. Don't drink much zin anymore, but agree that these and most Ridge bottlings are quite nice.

DavidG

Alch, I think the critics tend to agree with you on preferring the '98s to the '97s. Certainly for the right bank and southern Medoc, and even a little for the northern Medoc. I've had no complaints about the '98s, right and left bank. Not vintage of the century wines, but quite nice. I think they a...

DavidG

Claret wrote:Too bad for the 1982 L’Evangile, as it is probably the best Pomerol that I have ever tasted.

SDR (I think) brought one of these to an offline last year and it was killer.

DavidG

Kudos go to Eric for CellarTracker and the export function, and to Phil for making it work with the board software.

Lagrange is a BWE favorite. Is the '02 one that needs a little more cellar time?

DavidG

Exact same experience here, Brad. A lot of these wines are great on release as cocktail wines but just fall apart over time. I know one of our Oz posters gets incensed every time I say this, because it really is dependent on which wines you pick. I still love a Grange with age on it, but thre are a ...

DavidG

Thanks, Roberto. I don't necessarily attach as negative a connotation to "New World" as some do. I was just curious/trying to calibrate with you because you mentioned that the fruit was not jammy - jammy fruit being a hallmark of New Worldiness in my mind. The other thing that often gets a...

DavidG

Tom pointed out to me that there is no need to keep reposting the guest list - I can just edit the initial post. D'OH! Another advantage of the new BB software. So I've deleted all the out-of-date lists and updated the original post.

DavidG

Wow, what a collection of wines! Bummer about the Krug and L'Evangile - couple of shoulda-been-great bottles. I agree with you on the La Chapelle. A bottle drunk in its youth was awesome, then it shut down hard and has stayed in a shell ever since. I'm always looking for someone else's notes on this...

DavidG

Actually this note was from almost 6 years ago. I just picked the first one I saw that had extended characters in order to test the CT posting fix. I am due to open another, maybe on our anniversary next month (Peg and I were married in '88).

DavidG

This has been sitting in my temp-controlled cellar since release. The cork was soaked through and cruddy on the surface, but there was no ullage. That was a pop/pour note - it actually got a little longer on the palate after an hour or two. RP says this is getting old - I have to disagree.

DavidG

They came through fine. I'm not real clear on how PMs work. I replied to one but it looks like it's just sitting in my Outbox. Does it stay there until the recipient picks it up, or am I supposed to do something besides hit "Submit?" The reply I made to you and the moderator group seemed t...

DavidG

I've long been a fan of Bin 389, though I can't recall when I last bought any. What's it go for nowadays?

DavidG

Here's a test post of an old note to see if the extended characters are coming through from CT: 1988 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape (2/15/2003) dark red, slight bricking, rich ripe nose of pure fruit, no funk, plenty of great sweet frui...

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