Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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By the way the question came up elsewhere today about a Chateauneuf called Marcoux Vieilles Vignes, 1990 It just so happened that I had tried it after some glorious Chave Blancs at Kittle House in April last year This was my note: Men’s locker room-squash court-squash ball, then sandal wood; gamey; ...

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JimHow wrote:'73 Mouton had the Picasso label, did it not?

Indeed yes

Arguably one of the most evocative labels with Andy Warhol's creation for the 1975...and not as controversial as the 1993

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Harry - I am less concerned with who is considered to be tradional or modern than the quality of the contents of the bottle...in Piedmont - a region I am more familiar with - the distinction is somewhat spurious in my opinion. Like Otto, I do struggle with Chateauneufs, but I will continue to persev...

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Mon plaiser, mon brave! I bought quite a lot from WH Franks on LI, and some 01s and 02s which were also very good and excellent QPR...could not keep my hands off them.

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Thanks for all your comments...I wasn't making this stuff up, I stand by what I said and I had a similar experience with it over Christmas, where the others around the table enjoyed it more than I did. With this wine I got a hot sensation on the palate as well as the finish. I much prefer the older ...

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With these southern rhones you either like 'em or you don't really care for them... ...but even if you love 'em...they are not exactly profound/sophisticated wines...I mean if you like this style there are better wines from Australia....so where's the QPR? So Jimbo $65 sounds a bit steep...? I just ...

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Fab tasting Patrick...did you manage more than one bottle per person? I remember you saying that your mid west/Rockies drinking buddies are not as hard core as us lot on the east coast... My money would have been on the Cos '82...but in my experience it shows enormous bottle variation...your notes a...

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As a brief aside one of my epithanous wine experiences was with a young Vieux Telegraph in a London wine bar 20 years ago. Fast forward to 2009 and I open this and I get a nice maroon colour and then I get a sweaty bouquet; sweaty jockstraps...wonderful (in a wine); cedar, talcum powder and then som...

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I finally tried on last night, here is my note: Popped the first Wine Society "mystery" (i.e., worst kept secret) 2005 Pauillac tonight, less than 72 hours after a transatlantic crossing. Bright sparkly purple (rather than deep purple); young, vibrant, light on its feet it dances across th...

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Thanks Richard

Crikey, if it is good as Lafite...at a 2004 tasting in NYC in September 07 the Lafite was head and shoulders over everything else in a strong field

I see Bordeaux Index has it for Stg210 ib, where did you get yours from?

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Truly scary - Britain has become a police state - there are more surveillance cameras per head of population than in any other country - democratic or not - there is also talk of the local councils monitoring the number of empies you leave outside for recycling. Scott I took the liberty of posting t...

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Yes that's right David - I tried it about a year and a half ago and to my tastes it was a bit confected and artificial - as if the winemaker(s) was trying to hard to extract rather than let the vintage do the talking; but it seemed to be in an awkward stage - I guess I am going off that modern Angel...

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My favourite 04s are from the Medoc - Montrose, Pontet-Canet (exceptional), Ducru and Leoville-Barton (which was really curmudgeonly in its youth). Less keen on La Mish (bit hollow in the mid-palate), L'Eglise-Clinet and Angelus (a bit contrived). Pape Clement is nice. Latour is going through a very...

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Stefan/Nic - I have never tried Lamarche Grand Rue, and I was really impressed given its mixed reputation - there was no greeness in this wine and I think the weather was much less stressful in 04 compared to 03...this is ready to go into hibernation but my guess is it will be terrific from around 2...

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Last night back in Blighty and had the unenviable task of drinking through some of the remains of my cellar: Krug Grand Cuvee - haven't had this for a while but this was on terrific form. Thick, viscous, nutty and briochey; creamy and vibrant. Very dangerous because you can't go back to ordinary cha...

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I tend to agree with Chase...though there are no hard and fast rules...for example the 2004 Pio Cesare is drinking really well now but it will probably close down, while the 1997 is still backward, quite hard and coming out of a dumb stage. The 1995s strike me as being similar to their Bordeaux coun...

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Shame about the Pernot Chris, the 06 is a beauty...will avoid...the Mascarello sounds the business...how much was it?

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Thanks for note Tom...the '89 Beau' is the best CNDP I have ever drunk by a country mile...(it would definitely rank in my top 100 wines, maybe even top 50). I have one bottle of a case of the 1990 left, and while it has an incredible nose to die for, it is a let down on the finish, and way behind t...

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My money is on the burgundy...Bordeaux often appears clumsy next to burgundy...I will never forget with Chris CS how a DRC G-E '82 made a Figeac '82 appear wooden

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Who says I'm not interested in CduP? Likewise even though I have had mixed experiences with C9, it fascinates me. Also we are setting the bar pretty high here (at least I am) implicitly in comparing it to the great wines in northern rhone, Bordeaux and burgundy. I had one of my epithanous moments w...

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If you had to boil it down to one word it would be "grenache" - you either like it or you don't (just as you were either with George Bush in the war on terror or against him - there is no middle ground, no fence sitting). My view on grenache is coloured by some traumatic experiences with s...

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There is a guy called Paulson - not Hank, he has $700m in the bank so why does he give a monkey's about the credit crunch? - but John, who is even richer, and made $1.5bn last year shorting sub prime. If we could set up our own wine hedge fund and short Carruades 2000 (and probably 2005 but not trie...

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I was speaking to a friend of mine who was complaining that his wife's spending has thus far been impervious to the credit crunch. My response was that we need someone to keep the economy afloat. His response was that his wife thought "Credit Crunch" was some new brand of breakfast cereal....

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Sounds like a bargain Nic...thanks for the notes...another great Latour bargain from the 2005 vintage, no less...?

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Any sense in which these two are over-extracted and too new worldly?...That was my impression of the Baron (at a BWE event a while ago), which started to go "modern" in '98...and of course Pape with the (infamous?) change in regime in the late 90s, which laid waste to centuries of traditio...

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You are so polite Alex!

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I checked yesterday Jim and they still have it. I am thinking of going back for another half dozen...I bought six in November and am already down to my last one. Can't keep my mits off it.

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The Roumier was a straight Chambolle Musigny from the 2000 vintage. In contrast to Bordeaux the 2000s in burgundy are regarded as a useful vintage for relatively early drinking. This wine is ready to drink but it is no lightweight. It has an amazing earthy nose, delicious red fruits on the palate, a...

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Interesting selction and nice notes as always Mike what was you wotn?

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Alch The production of the grand vin is typically 18-20k cases, the production of Les Forts is typically 8-10k and the production of Pauillac Latour is way smaller. Arguably Les Forts is not really a second wine at all - well, it is consistently the best second wine out there, and arguably a second ...

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Sounds delicious Jacques...for our dinner we could altenatively do another "Italian job" - Pappa Doc has been making noises in that direction too...I am going home mid-Feb to raid my cellar

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I can confirm it is definitely a Latour and it is definitely made and bottled at the estate. Does this mean there are even less cases of Chateau Latour, or just less cases of the second wine. I mean, they have only a set amount of acreage of vines. I honestly didn't care for it. Better non-classed ...

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I can confirm it is definitely a Latour and it is definitely made and bottled at the estate. OK so it wasn't picked by 16-year old left-handed virgins under a full moon, nor lovingly nurtured by monsieur Engerer, but its basically the equivalent of Pauillac Latour. I look forward to trying one soon ...

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Houndsong wrote:Of course, members of BWE already knew this.

Yes and he borrowed liberally from Antonio Galloni's spiel in the latest edition of the Wine Buyer's Guide.

Must admit I enjoyed reading it because I am going through a barolo fetish at the moment, especially after Roberto's notes.

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Another vote for 2002 Lagrange. I tried it a couple of years back in Holland and immediately went out and bought a case. It should be a fine wine for medium-term drinking, and in my opinion is on a par with 2002 Leoville-Barton, another splendid wine. I am much more worried about my case of 2003 Lag...

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Thanks for the feedback Hendrikus - are you based in the UK? I guess you must be...on another board a lot of people were very sceptical about this wine. They made the valid point that why would Latour sell this wine to TWS when it could bottle it under its own label at a much higher price? I have in...

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Terrific notes Roberto When I met Tom for the first time in October, with Alex and Blanquito, we drank the 1990 Monfortino and it too was a reference point for Barolo, though still adolescent. If it wasn't for the first growth 86s we drank the following night it too would have been my wine of the ye...

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Me too looking forward tou your notes Mike.

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Yes indeed it is Phil I got interested because the price hike for the 2005 is relatively modest. I am certain it is Latour, the issue boils down to whether it is the 3rd wine, or basically the 4th wine of Latour. If it is the latter the Wine Society has been telling porkies - or is being economical ...

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Alch it is good to see you, veritable BWE legend that you are, back in the land of the living...stay tuned, I will report back to be sure. Dirty little secret here I was trading on some inside information...the story goes something like this...Les Forts is not a proper second wine, it is actually a ...

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