Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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Yeah, no matter how much I’ve been trying to rationalize the 2003 Pontet Canet the past decade or so, it basically sucks. Man, it was thrilling upon release though. Couldn't agree more. I was surprised how much I liked the 2003 Pontet Canet in its youth, but more recent showings have had a giant ho...

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About 25 years ago my Mom, a former lab scientist, looked at a decanter of mine and told me that I should just use Erlenmeyer flasks and bought me a few 2L ones.

They work perfectly. Easy to pour from, the right shape, easy to clean, and cheap.

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Hitting on all cylinders. It has a strong smoky note that works really well. Lively red fruit and strong tannins that are maturing, grippy but not drying. Long finish. This has the structure to keep aging but I’d drink sooner rather than later to capture the fruit. 2002s taste like Bordeaux. Haut Br...

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Already committed that day but offlines at Arv's are always a pleasure.

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I’m happy to learn which dinners you’re attending, Ed and Lisa. That might force me to bring a Burg….y Friday night!

Friday and Saturday. I can't handle 3 days of BWE in a row. I've never attended a Thursday night BWE dinner.

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We've already got other plans that evening.

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Lisa and I are going to skip Thursday night so we can be tip top for Friday and Saturday.

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We are in on Friday, not on Thursday. I can't drink 3 days in a row, but the history of BWE tells me I can manage 2 if I don't go overboard on day 1.

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I had access to a number of bottles from a great cellar at my wine storage a couple of years ago. The provenance and showing of those bottles has been fantastic. I have 4 more 1986 Gruaud Larose from that cellar. While I think they will age well for decades, I think I'll drink mine within this one a...

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Good eye! I wonder how many other details we miss because we aren't experts in everything.

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Blanquito was in town with some of his Denver wine buddies for the UGC tasting. We went to Delfina for an excellent meal and had some decent wine too. We started with a 2010 Gravner Brianco Breg from the list. A crazy aged orange wine that was really good. A description pulled from the Interweb: Gra...

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Blanquito wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 8:21 pm Yeah, like no Right Bankers on Ed’s list!

Where do you place Canon La Gaffeliere?

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To answer in the spirit of the question (I think) and in no order:

Chasse Spleen
Cantemerle
Sociando Mallet
Lynch Bages
Pontet Canet
Pichon Baron
Branaire Ducru
Canon La Gaffeliere
La Tour Blanche
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Super hard to do for all the reasons Blanquito and others have already chimed in with

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I am clearly in the minority. I don't understand young Bordeaux and I can't predict its evolution this early. Opening top Bordeaux on arrival is such a complete waste for me.

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Sounds great! If we can negotiate a per-person corkage, even better!

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I think the LLC "problem" is the same as Latour. It takes decades to drink well, especially in great vintages. I had the opportunity to drink a lot of LLC in the late 90s and it often didn't show well because I was drinking vintages from the 80s at that point. I always have liked 1983 a lo...

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While I would call Haut Brion my favorite First Growth, Latour would certainly be my second. My ordering: 1. Haut Brion 2. Latour 3. Lafite 4. Margaux 5. Mouton As I mentioned in the Latour thread, I think a core part of the Latour "problem" is that it takes decades to mature and most of t...

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I think the "problem" with Latour is how long it takes to come around, even compared with other first growths. The youngest Latour I've ever had that I thought was fully mature was a 1955. That doesn't mean it can't drink well sooner. Latour is easily my favorite 2002 I've tried and was dr...

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Wow. 1928 Latour. I haven't had many 1928s but those few I have tried I have loved. Huge tannins that seem to have taken a minimum of 50 years to come around. Much as I love 1964s, I have to agree on 1964 Latour. They picked before the rain, but it isn't a spectacularly good wine. I remember having ...

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I'm more a fan of the Yardbirds. Watch this classic from Blow Up in 1966 for Jeff Beck doing his best Pete Townsend imitation and destroying his guitar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSJGEn4FDys

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This is a perfect question for me. I just drank my last bottle of 2000 Chasse Spleen, and I drank my last bottle of 2000 Cantemerle a year or two ago. I was thinking about reloading, but I don't think I'd pay over $50 in large part because I paid so little originally. I suspect the market price is m...

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That all sounds fantastic, Ian! 67 Pall Mall famously cornered the market on Zalto making it unavailable for retail for a long time, so we should have very good stemware there ;) Lisa and I are in for Thursday and Saturday. I can't do BWE wine events three nights in a row, so we'll not join on Frida...

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I didn't have a single gateway event, so hard to say. The first producer from whom I had a lot of great Burgundy was probably Lamarche. I'm still a big fan of the 1993 Lamarche La Grand Rue. For understanding the true heights of Burgundy, I'd say Mugnier. A 2002 Les Fuees in 2006 or 20007 was game-c...

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If we can get 67 Pall Mall, let's switch the dates for Anything but Bordeaux. I'm happy to do that Thursday.

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Jim - a bunch of folks in London have been thinking like you.

https://www.liv-ex.com/news-insights/indices/

Check out the Bordeaux 500 and the Bordeaux Legends 40

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Comte Flaneur wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:13 pm
Ed I can help you out on all fronts, maybe we should chat on email.

PM sent

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SF Ed, i found a nice store in London with middle aged Bourgogne at very ok prices. I'll bring you there as I plan to go back to bring back 1 or 2 to Canada to enjoy with MC. Great! I am sure I will be able to figure out something to bring for Friday night with the help of my BWE friends (I am not ...

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I just try to keep consumption above purchases. I stopped buying Bordeaux with the 2009 vintage and can't afford age worthy Burgundy anymore, so the goal is to drink the good stuff I bought 15-20 years ago and slowly reduce the cellar.

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Nice stuff! I particularly like Clape Cornas. I've got the 1995 and 1999 lined up for consumption sometime soon. They are great wines, but for me they take a long time to be at their peak.

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tim wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:17 pm That being said, the best character for me is Paris. They really do show the beauty of Paris in different places. Lots of scenes on my street or close by.

Agreed! I saw Les Temps de Cerise and went to Lisa "that's right next to Tim's place!"

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I picked the 1986 Talbot because it was one of my early epiphany wines in the mid 90s and has always been a wine near and dear to me. I always enjoy it and it feels like its "mine" - not quite like how 1989 Lynch Bages is JimHow, but to a degree.

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1986 Talbot

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Happy birthday Peggy and great to see old Barolo show well at 75.

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Comte Flaneur wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:42 pm
Are we ok with the theme for Friday of ABB?

I am!

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On the recommendation of a British friend of mine, I just booked at the Citadines Islington, which is in the same general neighborhood as the Hilton properties Ian posted earlier. Big rooms and decent rates, especially if you sign up for their loyalty program and use the 30% off first booking offer....

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Congrats Nic and MC!

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Airfare purchased. It is not very expensive to fly SFO-LHR in that time frame - not much more than flying coast to coast in the US.

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I second the recommendation for Roscioli. Very simple very good food and a very good wine list.

I'm also a fan of Matricianella . Solid food and wine list, very lively, very Roman. Too many tourists but all of Rome is like that (at least in the central areas).

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I love these wines. The QPR is outstanding and they age for decades.

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Blanquito wrote: ↑Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:13 pm You guys are drinking way better than me.

Just have to have the right friends. Nearly all of those were drunk with friends/groups, and I think that's true for most of us.

Come by SF and we'll add some to your list for 2023.

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