Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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Blanquito wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:05 pm I missed the boat on 2005 Right Bankers...

Not sure you missed much outside of Conseillante…

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I’m a huge Conseillante fan and I think 2005 is the best Conseillante ever (although I haven’t tasted 2016 and after). Unfortunately though I have only two bottles of it and prices are getting prohibitively expensive. I am long on 2000, 2001, 2009, 2010, and 2014 instead…

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Blanquito wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:40 pm I was guilty of slinging a little mud.

Thank you for your service

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I do think Bordeaux often gains "precision" with age, but I don't think my dislike of the 2015 was based on how young it was. At the Conseillante vertical in I think 2018 I liked the recently bottled 2015 so much I went home and bought a few bottles.

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For me precision is a combination of structure and flavor. Comparing the 2009 and 2018, with the 2009 the structure allowed each flavor and nuance to come through clearly while with 2018 it was muddied, everything coming together into an and anonymous single note. It is often, but not always, a pro...

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I think most critics consider the wines being made today are better than the same wines thirty years ago. For the most part they are undoubtedly cleaner, the selection is more careful, and there is plenty of new technology around. The problem for me is that the wines tend to be riper, more alcoholi...

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robert goulet wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:31 pm 2015 righties

Small sample size...Seem wayy too high in alc. and over ripe

I thought the 2015 Figeac tasted last year was a brutal quaff

Yeah the 2015 was actively harsh, worst wine of the night

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William Kelley just rated the 2020 Figeac a hundred points and gave it the now ubiquitous “best ever” nod

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“Mediocre” is a good summary of my experience of the 2015 last night as well.

Look at the critical and CT reviews of this and you’ll be shocked

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Went to a sort of abbreviated Figeac vertical tasting last night, in large part to support Panos Kakaviatos who is a great presence in the DC wine community. Normally I'd be all over a Figeac vertical regardless, but the producer was remarkably uncooperative with this event -- they supplied only six...

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In all my years I still have never tried a Belair I’ll send you a 2004 if you want. I bought a case at $20/bottle way back when and doesn’t feel like I’ll ever drink through them That's very gracious, but hold onto it til I meet the DMV crowd in person! It will definitely come out for BWE 2024, but...

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AKR wrote: ↑Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:25 pm In all my years I still have never tried a Belair

I’ll send you a 2004 if you want. I bought a case at $20/bottle way back when and doesn’t feel like I’ll ever drink through them

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I have several bottles of the 2004 of this. It has an appealing classical almost sourness to it, quietly substantial. Lacks an extra level to to be a great wine but a good wine in a style seemingly no longer made I wonder how long the 04 will last, when I last had it in 2019 I think it didn’t seem t...

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Wow! A look into contemporary Burgundy gone wrong. More and more this will be how wines misfire, instead of the thin, tart, and underfruited bad wines of our youth

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Wow! Knowing Ian, knowing BWE, and knowing that London is perhaps the world commercial center for fine wines, I knew this was going to be fantastic. Sounds like it lived up to the promise and more! I regret missing it but I also know that given the last couple of weeks for me there is no way I could...

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JimHow wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:57 pm A sad day for our country.

Agreed

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The last interesting Pape Clement for me was 1998. After that it turned to the dark side, and turned with a vengeance. Seems they might be emerging I do wish they would change the name. Pope Clement was a vicious anti Semite, as well as a seriously nasty piece of work. Which of the many Pope Clemen...

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Not feeling real comfortable about this coming indictment. Is this all they got? I think before you go around indicting former presidents it needs to be something existential. Prosecutors use discretion in bringing prosecutions every day of the week, whether it is minor stuff or major stuff. This c...

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A supposedly pristine case of 1994 l’Evangile for $135/bottle all in (including tax) - an overpay but I unfortunately got caught up in the auction and boosted my bid to win it at the last second. I have heard this is actually one of the better wines of the 94 vintage, hope that’s true Three bottles...

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Yes! Wishing you guys the best! I am torn between the desire to live vicariously and the envy I expect to feel seeing the great time you all are having LOL

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A supposedly pristine case of 1994 l’Evangile for $135/bottle all in (including tax) - an overpay but I unfortunately got caught up in the auction and boosted my bid to win it at the last second. I have heard this is actually one of the better wines of the 94 vintage, hope that’s true Three bottles ...

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After over six years of non-stop efforts by all the most powerful institutions in American life to come up with something to definitively take Trump down, we've ended up with...miscategorizing his hush money payments to a mistress in the company books? Which then apparently had to be upcharged from ...

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Not feeling real comfortable about this coming indictment. Is this all they got? I think before you go around indicting former presidents it needs to be something existential. Prosecutors use discretion in bringing prosecutions every day of the week, whether it is minor stuff or major stuff. Arrest...

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Thanks to all for your kind words! My mother is basically ok (for an 82 year old with some chronic conditions) but it is a complicated diagnostic and medical situation

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Define BEST wine. There is where the story begins. I think your socialization to wine determines your attitude towards it. Evolution does not necessarily mean improvement. And yes, wines from the 80s and 90s that were good no longer have to be. We have to accept that today's wine production is diff...

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To my deep regret it appears I cannot make our festivities in London. There was always a high chance that work/family would keep me away which is why I held off at first, and now my mother is having serious health issues which are definitively going to keep me in the states this month. I’m really go...

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Thinking on this, I realized there’s at least one wine from the post-90 era that can run with the best of the 80’s: 1995 Figeac. What an incredible wine. I think once fully ready — they’re evolving glacially indeed — some 98 Right Bankers will be as good as of yore. Overall I’m higher (possibly muc...

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I put up that WK thread at WB and have been posting a lot in the thread over there, as some of you have as well. Glad to see the discussion going strong over here, and Blanquito's question is right on point. To be honest, when I see claims that a producer like Montrose is making its best wines ever ...

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I wasn’t too disturbed by the Murdaugh verdict from what little I know of it. But I was disturbed by that Alaska verdict. If there was ever a case of reasonable doubt that would seem to be it. It just seems like the evidence did not admit of anything even vaguely approaching certainty in that case. ...

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wow what a get! amazing stuff!

Hey Jim, in your honor I bid $300/bottle all in on a pristine lot of 1989 Lynch Bages at auction. It went for...drum roll...

$700 / bottle!

Soon you're going to be a millionaire just off 1989 Lynch Bages holdings!

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GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY!

I am in awe…wasn’t there a haut brion dinner almost as amazing by the Florida crew a while ago? You all are at another level down there!

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If you can find the 2004 Conseillante at a reasonable price I’d be all over that, it’s very hedonistic but subtle and elegant at the same time…

Discussion of Gruaud in another thread reminded me that the 2004 Gruaud is also excellent, if perhaps not obvious enough for your nephew

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I had the chance to buy the 2005 Gruaud at a reasonable price some years ago but unfortunately passed it up. It’s a shame because I actually really like recent era Gruaud

Apparently word is out now because it seems to be up to $150/bottle…

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Ok... so who has had the biggest 2005 WOW moment here on BWE.... Drum roll.... Give me your '89 Montrose moment, your '89 Lalande... Heck, give me a 2004 SHL... C'mon... throw it at me, denizens of the "profound" <rolls eyes> 2005 Bordeaux vintage.... The 2005 Conseillante was flat out gr...

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Between sometimes overdone right bank wines and left bank wines that took a long long time to come around I think some of us kind of stopped thinking about 2005 so much. Is it living up to early billing now?

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JimHow wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:14 am What does the 2010 Montrose go for these days?

About 250-270

Second most expensive Montrose of the last 30 years after the 2009 ($300+). Of course the 89-90 are extremely expensive

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It’s not that Philly deserved to win except for the penalty, it’s that the penalty ruined it for fans. Really egregious IMO

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But I have to say I question Ian’s prediction of substantial price appreciation for the 2020. Not sure how it is in the UK but in the U.S you can still get the 2016 Montrose for $200 and the 2020 is about $185. They seem like stylistically similar wines and probably similar in terms of quality (the ...

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I think Ian is dividing them up in accordance with his diabolical scheme to sell six and then drink three for free

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