Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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BWE moves the market (again): a 4 bottle lot of the 02 Leoville Barton just went for $431 all-in!

https://m.klwines.com/Auction/BidDetail/1465401

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I thought last night that Biden's resurrection was like McCain's in 2008 (he was also out of money and counted out).

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/opin ... e=Homepage

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I just checked, that 3.4% rate doesn’t reflect unreported cases, so it’s not really a game change: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/04/world/coronavirus-news.amp.html no case fatality rate, including that for the ordinary flu, includes unreported cases. In a number of areas, inc...

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Our best prior on likely turnout in 2020 is the 2018 Mid-Term election when a “total of 50.3 percent of eligible voters voted in 2018, compared to a turnout of just 36.7 of eligible voters in 2014. The 2018 elections had highest turnout of any mid-term election held since the 1914 elections.” I’m st...

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I just checked, that 3.4% rate doesn’t reflect unreported cases, so it’s not really a game change: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html

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On NPR this morning, it stated that the new WHO estimate of the COVID-19 is 3.4%!!!! Can this be right? I listened to the segment twice to make sure I heard it correctly. Last I’d been hearing was less than 1%. If true and accurate, this is an enormous change. 0.7% is seven times more deadly than in...

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OrlandoRobert wrote:You loved that 82 La Lagune I popped as well.

I have some 1970 and 1982 Magdelaine for the next time we get together!

Lucky guy. Love the 70 and 82 Magdelaine.

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I think people trying to minimize this are way off -- there seems to be a strong component of wishful thinking involved. The best estimate for what we are dealing with is something at least as transmissible as the common cold and 20x more fatal than the flu. Further, the 10-20% of cases that have s...

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Can I suggest a few St Emilions now worth trying: Laroque (last few vintages only) Fleur Cardinale Bellefont Belcier Dominique Moulin St Georges Confession Monbousquet Clos L'Oratoire Fonroque L'Arrosee Larcis Ducasse. I can't guarantee that you will like them, though I focus these days on wines of...

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I thing I always find so interesting is how polarized the camps are on this topic. The pro modern camp always trots out the better tech, the more rigorous selection, the cleaner cellars, the fancy enological knowledge, as if these facts speak for themselves. The pro old camp often points to the sini...

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I recall a thread we had on BWE a while ago on Sociando where Leve was critical of their high yields in particular and early pick dates. And a few of us where like, if that’s Sociando’s magic recipe, bring back the high yields and indifferent harvest schedules! Let Mother Nature create concentrated ...

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I missed that thread on Chinon and Kissak. I guess I’m a little surprised he’d feel that way about the old school classics of the Loire, but maybe it’s an occupational hazard of clinically testing and evaluating the new releases year after year. They don’t get to just sit and enjoy a single bottle o...

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80’s era NFL was great too.

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A good example is what I regard as the benchmark Bordeaux Chateau, which I own more of than any other: Leoville Barton. The Leoville Bartons from the 1980s are very good, especially 1985, 1988 and 1989. But the Leoville Bartons from 2000 onwards are unquestionably better in my opinion, even if they...

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Part of my attachment to 80’s era bordeaux is I love some rusticity in my wines as long as it comes with enough fruit and depth. And that is what the 80’s delivered in spades. Wines from that era are plenty ripe but come with loads of character and complexity. Many of the things that add character a...

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Bring it on, Tommy! I’ll see your Figeac and put forward a half a dozen pre-1991 vintages that will spank anything post! (though I’ll grant you that the 98 Figeac is gonna be brilliant someday).

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Great post, Tom. Never had the 2000 Chateau Margaux (better than the 83, 82, 90, 86? Wow!), but maybe wines like that are the exceptions which prove the rule? Here’s a fun game: which Chateau which made great wine before 1991 have made better wine (or a better wine, singular, even) since 1991? Tom n...

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Bold Statement #276: In general and overall, I've never had a Bordeaux post-1990 that was as good as the Bordeaux from 1990 and earlier. Of course, there were chateaux making dross or having a down period in the 80's that are much better now, but for good-to-great estates with a run of consistency w...

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JimHow wrote:Robert Parker ruined Bordeaux.

Indeed. And he ruined cali cab and much of the Rhône too.

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I’ve been thinking this very thing for years. Even the top 86s tasted great by 2008 and were in the zone. Either the 95s and 96s need even more time than the big, hard, tannic 86s did — a real possibility, I think/hope — or the 80’d magic was lost even by then.

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There are still some things about Sanders that bother me but the biggest worry is whether he can beat Trump and the R onslaught. Being able to win D primaries is not in and of itself reassuring that he'll be able to energize the less-interested to come out and vote. But I'm starting to think he mig...

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20 years, awesomeness.

In now less than 4 weeks, we'll celebrate the start of BWE's third decade in the motherland, Bordeaux!

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I think a mini Leoville Barton at the DC Convention is a great idea! Comparing the 96, 02, 03 and 04 side to side. I’d like to hear everyone’s thoughts on that.

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I love fully mature, old wines. The 1966 Haut Bailly that Chris B. brought to Denver 2019 was one of my top wines of the whole weekend, as well as CabFan's incredible 1958 Inglenook Cabernet Sauvignon and 1961 Gordiano Barolo. But I really don't like these wines because they are old. I am actually s...

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Alright, I’ll play. The 02 LB is better than the 96, high praise indeed. The 02 is a more pleasurable and complete wine.

I can’t promise I’ll feel the way in 10 years or so, but who wants to wait that long?

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I think some of the 1990 Bordeaux are at peak or approaching peak and I have had a few that were past peak. Most of the best 1989 red Bordeaux, although wonderful now, will be better in the future (like maybe 5 to 10 years). Just my opinion - feel free to disagree. Chris Bublitz I concur completely...

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35 is the new 25, David. The 1989 and 1990 vintages still need more time to peak!

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Bold statement of the day: either the 96 needs more time, or the 02 is clearly the superior wine. Per usual, I’m in the former camp (though I think overall the 96 and 02 are similar in quality, once the 96 fully blossoms).

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I got my 2002 L Barton at Table and Vine in 2005, so they were stored properly. If I only had two bottles though, Marcus, I’d probably wait a few more years at least. It’s crazy to think how “cheap” wines like this were not long ago (2005 feels like yesterday). I did get the 2014 Barton for a good p...

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I froze the 2nd half of the bottle on day one, and thawed the remains tonight. Wow, this is even better than the first go. The nose is a little better (but it was excellent on day one), but there are more fireworks on the palate today. So smooth, tangy and savory, generous even for a Barton, and ful...

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I had 6-7 bottles of the 82 Lagune over a period from 2008-2012, and they were uniformly outstanding and seemingly at their apogee. Then a la the 82 Pichon Lalande, they entered what seemed to be their decline phase and I stopped looking for them at auction. That and the fact that finding an 82 Lagu...

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I still think about that 2014 Jadot Batard Montrachet you brought to Denver, Stu. Truly epic stuff. It vanished faster than any wine I've seen!

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Incredible, as always. I often find myself lingering on cheap plane tickets to Ft Lauderdale.

All I can say is if the 82 Margaux was lackluster, that is one heck of a lineup!

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...I would much prefer to drink wines when young and vibrant than tired, dried out old wines which no longer have any fruit and smell musty. One of the few points I agree with RP on. I think everyone would agree with you on this! The rub of course is one person’s ‘tired’ is another person’s ‘prime ...

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Fun read, but claiming the 2010s have generally entered their prime drinking is just silly. I know these guys need to move merch, so maybe that’s the explanation.

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I’m with Jim — this beauty is ready to roll! It has attained the transcendence of Howquito. 2002 Château Léoville Barton Expressive, lovely, utterly classic bouquet of cedar, graphite, charcoal, and purple flowers. Overall, this is cool fruited and extra juicy with a minty intensity that just purrs ...

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Decided on the Barton.

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JimHow wrote:They have attained Howquito.

I love when a wine is Howquitoed.

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Here's my remaining stash of 02 and the prices I paid (including my holdings from the great 2002 Heist at MacArthurs at the BWE Convention): Branaire-Ducru -- 4 bottles -- $24 d’Issan -- 2 bottles -- $22 Gloria -- 4 bottles -- $24 Lafon-Rochet -- 1 bottle -- $20 Leoville-Barton -- 5 bottles -- $36 L...

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That’s one of my favorite things about 02 Bordeaux— most/many of them are in the zone, drinking well.

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