Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

Ognik

It’s like the 1961 Latour is perfect, but I like the less than perfect ‘59 better.
A dozen or so bottles in, I find other vintages like 2014 to have more personality than 2016.

So what does this tell us about your preference?
Do you like to kiss the ugly frog or the beauty queen? Common

Ognik

No way. 14, 15 and 16 are a perfect trio until now. A kind of modern reincarnation of 88, 89 and 90....but much more better, we' ll see. 17, 18 and probably 19 will have to proof their potential to be competetiv. 16 is not overrated in any way. We will have so much fun with that vintage in upcoming ...

Ognik

It is what it is.....still a solid wine.
The turning point of quality at PC.

Ognik

sorry. spoiler.
I'm a big fan of SM but..... 2001, eight weeks ago was a underperformer. Green streak and unfriendly.
Maybe a bad bottle.....14 more to go. Maybe better bottle next time.
Had much more fun with 97, 98, 03 and 10 lately.

Ognik

under....and out.
Never ever reached possible top performance.
1990 and 1996 showed glance of potential.
Unfortunately no progress last 20 yrs i'm afraid.
I am through.

Ognik

Haut Batailley 2014 is a beauty.
Try to get some.

Ognik

Buy Loire stuff. Seems to be the better bordeaux you'll see. Lol.

Ognik

Love to read this thread.
Respect.
Great estate. Great winemaker and great wines.
Far away from beeing mainstream.
You have to have guts to like this stuff.
No wine for pussies.
Sorry. Political incorrectness.

Ognik

Great line up. Thank you for sharing. Love this estate.
89, 90, 95, 96, 97, 98, 00, 03, 05 and 10 are all great.
Not tasted 01, 11 and 14 yet.
Best.

Ognik

No sympathy with the brits. State of play.

Ognik

Estate performance not vintage matters! You will find lot of 15 vintage wines that will surpass their 09 and 10 peers. Be selective and trust your palate. Thanks to GV.

Ognik

Will open a 82 La Lagune on yours.
Merry x mas stefan.

Ognik

No matter if it will be Meyney 14, Rauzan 15, Brane Cantenac 15 or Canon 15.......it will be a perfect choice..... all of them waiting in the cellar for their time to come

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Merry christmas and a good year 2019 for all.

Ognik

Evolution.....maybe?

Ognik

That's what i'm talking about. Rauzan Segla was reasonable priced en primeur im termes of quality, esp. for a second Cru. Giscours, Cantenac Brown, Prieure Lichine and others are good wines in 2015....but play in a different league.... Btw Brane Cantenac was about 10€ cheaper than RS e.p. Also an ex...

Ognik

Price follows quality. Anything wrong with it?
So what...in terms of quality Rauzan Segla 2015 is an excellent value....as Canon 2015 is;-)

Ognik

+1
Truck has been loaded with Meyney 2014 already.
No brainer.

Ognik

Rauzan Segla 2015
Has to be a Margaux in 2015.

Ognik

Cotes de Bourg do offer value for money. Try Chateau Mercier. Friendly people great wines.

Ognik

2000 BD should be better....

Ognik

I'm not paranoid but i belive Mr Trump is a manchurian candidate, aim to destabilise the US and the western world. We'll see. Good luck.

Ognik

Any Cru Bourgeois and non classified Chateau from this region i suppose

. Lot of stunning value for money.

Ognik

Thank you for sharing. Underrated Chateau sometimes. 2009 was a sleeper e.p.
, great value.
Any thoughts on 2003?

Ognik

Piedmont. No- fake wines.

Ognik

Will tell you in 30 years time.

Ognik

@comte
E.g. 95 is much closer to 86 than 96 is to 86.
96 is a contrapoint to 86. Elegant, expessive, friendly.
95 and 86 are "unfriendly" vintages...and will unfortunately be forever...... i fear.

Ognik

Don't see any stylistic similarities between 86 and 96.
95 is much closer in style and evolution.
Lagrange and Talbot are great value wines in 96.
Pull the cork.

Ognik

2009.

Ognik

Liked 09. Easy drinking wine. Nice value.

Ognik

Let me say: He was useful

Ognik

Thank you for sharing. Glad i bought a lot of Calon Segur 2008.
Best

Ognik

....keep going guys, keep going...
Congrats to BWE

Ognik

Wish i'd enjoyed it long ago. Still some bottles left.

Ognik

Drink up soon. Same with 95 Larmande.
Will last but won't get any better.
Food wine.

Ognik

Figaec 2009 was fantastic in every way at ep degu in zurich in 2012. No doubt about that.
Best Figeac i ever tasted until now.
I am very sorry now that i did not buy at 200+ €. Seemed too expensive to me those days.

Ognik

Perfect choice. Congrats.

Ognik

Go for GPL 2014.
Think 2015 and 2016 will be better.
This Chateau is hot......

Ognik

Thank you for sharing.
Have 10 of a case left.
Thought it was done...
Will try one next week.

Ognik

@ JimHow
I would call PC 95 and 96 "great" due to it's former performance (e.g. in terms of "classic" wine, whatever that means)
Since then a lot has changed at PC and it's hard to find anything "classic" there these days.

Ognik

Loved 09 HB a lot. Got a case.

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