Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

OrlandoRobert

You boys are killing me.

I need to buy some.

OrlandoRobert

This thread is potentially sexist and objectifying.

Could you please post more pictures so that I made study the issue and conclude my analysis?

OrlandoRobert

JimHow wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:43 am Stunning. 2014 Clerc Milon is stunning.

Damnit Jim! Damnit.

I so scored on this vintage, and so blew it with the baby Moutons. How da fuk did I not but any!?!

They were dirt (as in, sous bois) cheap!

OrlandoRobert

I was very late to the game, but 2014 is the shizzle. If a chateau stunk it up in that vintage, it is beyond redemption in my world. Whereas if they whiffed in 2015, I’m ready to overlook that given how excessive that vintage seems (so far) to be. I was screaming 2014 from the rooftops, sadly I’m j...

OrlandoRobert

Pomerol Vieux Chateau Certan Trotanoy Bourgneuf L’Evangile I see you listed L'Evangile under the classics. I haven't had anything younger than 2004. But i've been buying and researching some more recent vintages such as 2012, 2014, 2016. Has anyone tried these? Do they still fall under classic? I'v...

OrlandoRobert

Here’s the Lavelle’s Bistro wine list… It’s a great outpost restaurant 14 miles from the Arctic Circle… http://www.lavellesbistro.com/5_wine/wine.html 2009 DOM FOR 240 2008 RIDGE MONTE BELLO 185 DAY ONE Damn OB already hunted out the deals for you. But actually all the champs are very reasonable. Y...

OrlandoRobert

JimHow wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:58 am Here’s the Lavelle’s Bistro wine list…

It’s a great outpost restaurant 14 miles from the Arctic Circle…

http://www.lavellesbistro.com/5_wine/wine.html

2009 DOM FOR 240
2008 RIDGE MONTE BELLO 185

DAY ONE

OrlandoRobert

I don’t know how you do this buddy, you are a true warrior. Much respect. I truly believe your role is the most important service that any lawyer can provide. Hopefully that’s some consolation for the struggle in which you are about to embark. Someone’s liberty is at stake. There is nothing that is ...

OrlandoRobert

BobbyG, we popped a 2009 Giscours together many years ago, but I don’t recall your thoughts on it.

OrlandoRobert

A prior poster asked about Giscours. I do not think it is classic, nor do I think it is “modern” in the pejorative way that some of us use that term as applied to wine, but it does fall into that third bucket that Marcs mentions. It is well made from a technical point of view, IMHO, and actually ta...

OrlandoRobert

Both of you nailed it from my perspective! Excellent articulation of the stylistic changes we have seen. A prior poster asked about Giscours. I do not think it is classic, nor do I think it is “modern” in the pejorative way that some of us use that term as applied to wine, but it does fall into that...

OrlandoRobert

Blanquito wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:37 pm How “oakier” gets converted to “Pakistani” is one of the great mysteries of AI.

It opened the door for so many choice comments - Boebert woulda been slinging - but I chose to take the higher ground.

Of course, Pat could have meant “dry, grainy, earthy, spiced”.

OrlandoRobert

Currently drinking a 2018 Roc de Cambes. Second night on this - it was almost undrinkable last night in its largesse, indeed I think it would have slot in nicely up against Marks duck muck. It’s settled down a bit tonight - actually tastes a bit more like Bordeaux but (without knowing where it migh...

OrlandoRobert

DavidG wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:17 am My last purchase was 12/3 (a case of ‘95 and '00 BAMA, Alfert's fault), so I'm just 3 hours shy of 3 days now.

You will be sending me an Xmas card later!

OrlandoRobert

As I’ve said before (falling into public service announcement terrain), pretty much the perfect palate (for me) amongst amateur and professional wine writers alike is DaleW on CT. He tastes pretty broadly, though mostly mature stuff, has no agenda, prefers classic traditional chateau but can apprec...

OrlandoRobert

Blanquito wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:46 am I have bought no wine for 4 days and counting.

You are lucky that I bought all the remaining 98 BAMA

OrlandoRobert

Levenberg is a great writer, maybe the best pure stylist among wine writers today, but he is pretty much gaga over new style Bordeaux -- loves most of the stuff he drinks from recent vintages. Of course he still loves classic Bordeaux as well, but I don't really trust his palate any more to steer m...

OrlandoRobert

Yea 2007 CDP was a worse minefield. And there you had Cambie and Parker influences. Got rid of those, too.

OrlandoRobert

Sounds wonderful. I bought heaps of 05 bordeaux on futures, which you know and by and large I don’t regret it, but I mostly concentrated on the Medoc which was more my comfort zone at that time. Wish I had instead loaded on right bank classical producers. I don't think you messed up. Right bank 200...

OrlandoRobert

It's like the monty python skit. "I'm not gonna buy any wine! Well, I'll buy old wine if I see a good deal. Old wine and young champagne, Well old wine, young champagne, and anything from the Loire Valley. NO, no wine except these things: old wine, young champagne, Chinon, 1989 Lynch-Bages, da...

OrlandoRobert

DavidG wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:13 pm
Blanquito wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 6:58 pm What did the Romans ever do for us?!…
Veni, vidi, vici, vini?

Not to be a pedant, but I’d say “veni, vidi, bibi”.

OrlandoRobert

A number of Cellartracker notes on the 2014 Cos are from users I'm a fan of including Motz, wineotim, Keith Levenberg, Tim Heaton, Jeff Leve. They are very positive about it, although a couple years ago englishman's claret opined about the 14.2abv and heavy handed oak treatment in his note. He also...

OrlandoRobert

I was disappointed that Cos d’Estournel, a personal favorite, is not on the list. I assume that its omission is deliberate because you deem it to have gone too “modern”? I have had many Cos vintages from ‘66 to ‘96, but while I have some more recent ones in my cellar (including 6 bottles of the acc...

OrlandoRobert

Tell your better half Jim How says hey, David. I have one bottle of 2016 Beaucastel in my cellar, how many blanquitos? It’s gorgeous. I cannot imagine it shutting down. I find the 15 vintage in CDP too ripe but Beaucastel is saved by the Mourvèdre cut. Doc is of course right the time is good, but d...

OrlandoRobert

DavidG wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:05 am A 2015 Beaucastel. Robbing the cradle but a beauty in the making.

That’s a big boy! The 16 is smokin to me. I like the 17 as well, shows more Mourvèdre, which is a good thing for me. Quite a trio of vintages for this house. I bought the 18 as well but have not pooped one.

OrlandoRobert

Blanquito wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:11 am Hahahaha!

We NEED buying freezes, even if short lived, to bend the curve.

And when OrlandoB has more than a 1000 bottles, he’ll start to feel differently!

When? Lol!

OrlandoRobert

I eschew this thread. It’s Anti-BWE!

Stefan prolly pissed to no end.

OrlandoRobert

I wish i had some 2015 Canon... i order you to keep them all... these 2015 Canon are like the Wayne Gretzky rookie cards: you will know later you have something unbelievable on hand. I didn’t necessary like this wine, but I’d hold it. Never know what it becomes, and certainly it will only appreciat...

OrlandoRobert

Nicklasss wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:32 am Now i guess you need to try the............

2014 Château Lynch Bages...

TROTANOY!!!!

OrlandoRobert

When I first uncorked this wine and tasted the first couple of sips, I said to myself, "This is the 2021 BWE Wine of the Year." It is a wine of great nuance and complexity. As I was sipping it, I thought, wow, what is the difference between a $200 bottle of wine and a $20 bottle of wine. ...

OrlandoRobert

marcs wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:54 pm
Does Tertre Roteboeuf count as still classic, because they make wines in exactly the same idiosyncratic way they did in the 90s? Or not because they are rich?

To me, no. It is iconoclastic.

OrlandoRobert

JimHow wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:42 pm I once told an old girlfriend that she was pulchritudinous. She thought I was calling her a slut.

It’s all in the delivery, Jimbo

OrlandoRobert

Comte Flaneur wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:03 pm A pulchritudinous object:

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An oddly incongruous word to mean “beautiful”!

OrlandoRobert

I'm still deciding, the morning after.... I think you need to try another bottle of Conseillante to decide. In my experience, Conseillante is generally more enjoyable than VCC, as it has a gentler, more subtle, and more feminine style, while VCC can be more "impressive" and distinctive. T...

OrlandoRobert

JimHow wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:23 am There will be no election results tonight, I’m going to bed.

Concubines can be exhausting.

OrlandoRobert

Oh no…..

Drum roll…..

My bet is that Jimbo dances with La Conseillante, which in French, means “The Concubine”.

OrlandoRobert

Between the Convention, Europe, auction credits at K&L, and COVID, I’ve been on a pretty epic wine buying spree for 2+ months. I need to stop, take a long break, and I need help. Who’s in? OrlBobby is right there with u...I almost had to wine baker act him a couple times. Fuk dat, I’m out! I ne...

OrlandoRobert

robert goulet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:59 pm But I get it...they have to freshen their image to intice a new generation.

Like I said, put a jug handle in it, looks like a Growler. Hipsters will swoon.

OrlandoRobert

AlexR wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:25 pm I saw this in a shop window and did a double take.

http://www.lafite.com/fr/les-chateaux/chateau-rieussec/

Not to my taste, how about yours?

Alex R.

Hideous.

Looks like grocery store plonk from a 1.5.

Could only be improved with a jug handle.

OrlandoRobert

One particular wine that is not discussed a lot on here is Montrose 2016. It is comfortably the best wine this estate has ever produced - this was clear at a vertical I attended with Herve Berland. Kicking myself for not buying it as the price is really on the move as the market has cottoned on. Ma...

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