Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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Ianjaig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:03 pm It's been a crazy month & summer. Flash floodings followed by a cyclone that have both wreaked havoc.

Hope everyone is safe by you Ian.

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Musigny 151 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:59 pm 3 bottles of Drouhin Chambolle Amoureuses.

Woohoo
Vintage? Price? If you don't me asking

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Lol Bill,
I think I will need a bigger house. No more room for another wine fridge in this condo

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So far this year $669 for 3 various NV Champagne, 3 half bottles of Chianti, 3 Bourgogne Rouge and 3 Chambolle Musigny Village (all reported in the "So what have you bought lately" thread: http://www.bordeauxwineenthusiasts.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5404 I think this is manageable for no...

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marcs wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:08 pm I think Ian is dividing them up in accordance with his diabolical scheme to sell six and then drink three for free

Oh, I get it!

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Comte Flaneur wrote: ↑Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:34 pm 6 x 2020 Montrose
3 x 2020 Montrose

Hopefully I might live long enough to drink the latter for free

I think Jim's question is that there must be a typo... otherwise that would be 9 x 2020 Montrose

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I didn't like that call either but:

https://www.nfl.com/news/eagles-cb-jame ... as-holding

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Well, I tried a 2004 Malescot in September 2019 and it was very disappointing. The Smith Haut Lafitte is a better bet.
I would try Poyferre before Barton and Pape Clement.
2004 Burgundies were very green upon release, they are much better now.
2004 Chiantis are fantastic.

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Nicklasss wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 1:30 am 3 bottles of the 2018 Jamet Côte-Rôtie.

Ooooh nice

Felsina Chianti Classico Riserva 'Rancia' 2017 375ml x 3
Veuve Fourny Blanc de Blanc Brut Nature 1er Cru N/V × 2
Mousse Fils Brut Perpetuelle l'Or d'Eugene NV × 1

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Wonderful tasting Ian, the Palmer, Pichon Lalande and Rauzan Segla sound amazing. I hope you snuck up to the other table to have a sip. You didn't make out too badly though with the Bartons and the two Graves.
Jean Christophe, that was an epic night! The 1985 Lynch was so good that evening!

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2012 Louis Jadot Pommard 1er Cru Les Rugien (375 ml) PnP. Stony, mineral-laden nose; coaxing reveals a mixed berry aroma. This needs time. Excellent mouthfeel but lacks fruit. Hold until 2025. Side note: this is exactly what I don't get about Burgundy. An 11 year-old wine from a half and a lesser v...

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These were amazing in 2007: Every d'Angerville Volnay Mugnier NSG Clos de la Marechale Roumier Morey St Denis Clos de la Bussiere Bachelet (all the spectrum) Clavelier Chambolle Combe d'Orveau And a bunch of others that were just good. Also, in 2009-2010 when these came out the prices were still ver...

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I have had only good to great experience with 2007 Burgundy. Critics panned it, I bought and loved everything I tried from that vintage. To his credit Eric Asimov did say the wines were charming and can be drunk early.

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As I stated many times before, Grand Puy Lacoste is not my favorite, it may have improved finally but I'm not paying $$ to find out. Leoville Barton is also not a favorite, I have had many different vintages of this estate and it never wooed me. It is always correct, it has never given much emotion....

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This is Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts Mr G. Not Bordeaux Wine Anonymous.

You don't come here and say, hi my name is Mark and it's been two hours since my last wine purchase.
You come here and say I have been offered x amounts of wine, should I buy it all? Hoping for encouragement.

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JimHow wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:03 am You enjoyed that 2019 LLC, Mr. Levy, I witnessed it with my own eyes.

Ha, true. And I enjoyed the 2010 Troplong (lots of alcohol) Mondot, but in fairness I am not as excited about young Bordeaux these days as I used to be. So many other wines from other regions I enjoy more.

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Let's stay in touch Nicolas, maybe we'll make it there this summer, we are thinking Provence so far but anything can change.

Jim, I also love this wine a lot, my local store still has 3 half bottles, I'll go buy them Monday

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I feel like I'm no longer worthy to be called a Bordeaux Wine Enthusiast. I can't think of any recent Bordeaux that I can enjoy. Of the 70s and 80s Bordeaux I can make a list of my top ten estates (excluding firsts) Palmer Lynch Bages Pichon Lalande Gruaud Larose Talbot Prieure Lichine (loved some o...

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Very nice,
We just finished a half bottle of the 2017 Rancia, it was absolutely delicious, very balanced with bright fruit and good structure and finish. That half botte didn't stand a chance

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I just checked one of my two bottles. 2010 Montrose is at a hefty 14%. Yikes

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Yup!
I opened a 2018 LLC not long ago. I have no excuses. Enjoy and report.

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Is this an Elon Musk type Twitter poll?

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These don't get too expensive when older. I bought at Winebid a bottle of 2001 Pavelot Dominodes for $61 (before all fees) in August '21. I think you can definitely enjoy young, Patrick. No need for 2-3 blanquitos, Blanquito. There are no harsh tannins a la Medoc, the wine will change with age, but ...

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I haven't bought at auction in about a year, I have had only good experiences with older wines. My worst experience was with a 1995 Duhart Milon but it's hard to tell if it was the wine that was just mediocre.

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Wonderful Nicolas, happy birthday again. I love Taupenot-Merme Chambolle and the Combe d'Orveaux is a fantastic vineyard. Actually even the regular Bourgogne Rouge from that producer is excellent. Highly recommended and the prices are still (sort of) reasonable. I have not tried either the 1995 or 1...

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Just bought 6 bottles of the 2013 Wind Gap Woodruff Chardonnay* for $1.67 each! Eat your heart out 2 Buck Chuck. *Not had the ‘13, but I’ve enjoyed many bottles of Wind Gap chardonnay from ‘08-‘12, I usually paid around $20 each for those. And at this price, if they're junk, you could just use it f...

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stefan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:43 pm 3 1988 Guiraud $155 all in for the three

Score!!

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Happy Birthday Nic, hope you had a great one, and wishing you and Marie Claude a great year

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The youngest of any of the first growths I've had was the 2004 Haut Brion. My experience in newer vintages is between very limited and nonexistent. After that disclaimer, to my taste, Lafite first and then Margaux hit heights that cannot be matched by any of the others. Haut Brion and Mouton have at...

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stefan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:09 pm Money well spent, Jacques. Now you can drink a simple Macon and think, "Gosh, this is better than $200 white Burgs out there".

Always look on the bright side of life, Bill

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Agreed, Vincent Dancer hits all the notes. Maybe a bad bottle

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We opened a 2017 Roulot white Bourgogne with some tuna tartare and steamed shrimp yesterday and it was a major disappointment. The darn thing is over $200 a bottle now and at the time cost me a bargain $89 :shock: Well, it was light, insipid, watery, nice for quaffing and easy drinking but I have ha...

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The answer will be unanimous on BWE
Buy! Buy like the wind.
But you knew that already Patrick, lol

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Just to reply to the original question, $75-80

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Taupenot-Merme Chambolle Musigny 2019 x 3
Taupenot-Merme Bourgogne Rouge 2019 x 3

For 2023 consumption.

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On my next Burgundy shopping trip I will look for some Pavelot SLB. How long do they take to come around? This 2010 Jadot Beaune is definitely on the young side even if it is very good for drinking now. I like the regular Pavelot SLB Village Stefan, I think it can provide a lot of pleasure even if ...

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Wait, so everyone here are saying their gateway burgundy was stuff like Rousseau, DRC, Coche-drury, etc? THOSE were your first burgs? jeez. Thats like saying I didnt like Bordeaux until I tasted Lafite. Mine was a bit more humble. I first got hooked when I had an mid-aged Albert Morot 1er red burgu...

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For white burgundies it was a Niellon Chassagne, in 1997 at Goumard Prunier in Paris. We were drinking something nondescript and struck a conversation with a lonely American businessman, he gave me a taste of his wine, the earth shook the angels started singing and nothing was the same afterwards.

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So 3 producers: Mugnier, Vogue and Rousseau. Jacques Frederic Mugnier who doesn't have a weak spot in his lineup of wines. Chambolle Musigny, Chambolle Fuees, Chambolle Amoureuses, Musigny, Bonnes Mares, these were all relatively cheap, open and accessible in 1997-2003. And we always thought we coul...

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I don't have much experience with young Pavelot 1ers. Burghound says the 2017 Guettes is more giving than expected, the 2017 Gravains will need a bit of time, and the 2019 Guettes is quite austere.
Decanting may not help much but it can't hurt

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