Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

alchemeus

Hey Alch, you should join us in DC, the Saturday night dinner is shaping up nicely, rumors have it there are going to be some '95 d'Yquems in presence.

Heck a DC bash I would have thought was maxed out by now.

I'll ask Kathryn.

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JimHow wrote:....I'm allergic to dandelion.... And pistachio as well, big time....

Damn, that's a shame. A Bitter Green that grows wild in your yard...heck I pick them. Lot's of nutrition you miss also.

Sad.

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The thing I've noticed about really nice high end wines is the balance and feel and to a degree the complexity far more than anything else. And what you want to spend on a wine is what you want to spend on a wine. Shite, I've had $20 or $30 something Rhones that have pleased me as much as or more th...

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I actually don't know. Heck, I don't even look for high end wines anymore. I have around 400 mid to upper tier Bordeaux, and maybe 2 or 3 cases each of Porto and Rhone and Burgundy in the cellar, so I'm kinda satisfied. A scattering of Loire and Italians. My keepers. Mostly now I buy for 1-5 years o...

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Well Tom, that's the rub.

So damn delicious now hard to keep

I do have several of previous vintages.

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If you have time try the Zoo. Try and get to the thing what has the tropical 'forest' in a green house. Kinda Amazing. If you like jazz try and get to Madam's Organ in the Adam's Morgan district. And never neglect the Smithsonian. US History to the Art museum. Must be twenty or so of them there on t...

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Heck Jim, you don't think of wine as an asset. Buy them or not. Probably good wine. For around $28 per now-a-days how can you go wrong?

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Even this 1999.

I've never been disappointed with this estate since first taste of the 1995. The 1999 is fine also. Nice fresh fruits, full mouthfeel, no holes, a pleasure. Better wines, no doubt. But this little $27 jewel is a keeper. Still have some other vintages, starting with 1996.

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Well, I would and do, purchase East Coast wines.
But I always have.

alchemeus

Sheesh, comte. Not my experience. This 'third wine' of Latour just isn't worth it. Price wise. I just can buy better wines lesser for the money. Just me, maybe you have a different experience. No biggie, just a difference.

That's all.

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Yes, Langhe is an excellent example.

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I have no idea.

But Comte.

What happened to all this extra wine in the past hundred plus years?

They "now produce"?

Like the junk grapes weren't worth making before, but now are.

I'm just confused here.

Latour is a brand now, not a Class.

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My memory sucks. Damn.

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Napa 02. Hmm...Was NY 03?. Could have sworn it was 02.

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"Approachable my ass. I've drunk more 04s than he did. You don't want to approach these babies with your ass because you will get did. You want to face them anteriorily, with full armour." Yes, Hound. I repeat. Now there ARE Nebbiolo based wines that are inexpensive and good that show the ...

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Ya know, I think I have a few bottles of this. 'shittyness'. That's GOOD for me. Adds a bit of rustic to the wine.

I wasn't thinking of opening any but the non-classed right bankers for another few years. Maybe I should re-think that notion.

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I have to ask. When did Ben convert you? Jim Howienac promoting Burgundy? The End of the World approaching?

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I can confirm it is definitely a Latour and it is definitely made and bottled at the estate. Does this mean there are even less cases of Chateau Latour, or just less cases of the second wine. I mean, they have only a set amount of acreage of vines. I honestly didn't care for it. Better non-classed ...

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Pappa!

Yes, Gattinara is one which I refer. Even had 'second wines' from some Barolo producers, odd names. Under $20. There are several village named wines in Piedmont producing Nebbiolo wines, I suppose Spanna and Vallana are some.

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I've never had a Pride. Tried Dunn, Montelena, Ridge, Mondavi Reserve, Stag's Leap, and another...Rutherford type, can't remember. What I've always wanted to try is the Dominus. Dunno why, maybe because when I did it was available for under triple digits. My favorite of the Californian's I've tried,...

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I dunno about drinkable young Barolo. Even the cheap ones are expensive. But heck, you gots the money and likes the wines then pays up. Now there ARE Nebbiolo based wines that are inexpensive and good that show the floral and tar notes of Barolo young. I do love the grape and look for Nebbiolo based...

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Well heck!

If it's that close to Union Station then post Metro stops.

Far cheaper that cab fares.

alchemeus

well damn Jim. Google Mps ain't gonna know Chabmolle from Richebourg, you gotta mark it. Save.

I mean I run dozens of servers for the gobment (http://videocast.nih.gov/) but that is just a start. Specific sites must be marked.

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Jim, find them and they can be mapped. Individual vineyards.

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OK. Wasn't in there as I never had those wines.

Damn.

I'd love to have a cellar full of 1988 and 1989 Bordeaux.

Or even just a few bottles.

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I mean, I've seen Haut Brion. Individual vines.

Might be cool to have a section where vineyards are available from satellite. Can be marked. Amazing to see Haut Brion from space, inside a city.

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Anything more than an hour ago I don't remember.

Except things 45 years ago. Crystal Clear.

What did we try?

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Just info. Georgetown has no Metro stop. So if you stay in that area prepare for cab fares. Or driving. Good Luck. Dupont Circle is a hoot. Not sure where Charlie Palmer is. MANY decent eateries there, we've walked from DuPont to Adam's Morgan (you should try Madam's Organ if you like jazz) and it's...

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I bought a case of the 98 Ducru Beaucaillou and it's the least of that vintage I've tried based on tasting the 'lesser' houses. I just kinda like DB anyway. Trying to keep my hands off the 96's. Might have some 2000 of this also....The Brown 2000 was nice. But I did buy some Haut-Brion, Margaux, and...

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Tom, I'd suspect the 09 DC affair is booked. As far as MD wines over $15 not worth the effort, I'd agree for 99.9% of folk on this board. A very few are worth my while. But yes, indeed most of the 'worthwhile' wines that even I like are probably under $15. Boordy has started an 'Icon' series, and th...

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No comment. Doesn't mean anything.

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won't even go there.

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I have only the 1999. It's decent now. The 2001 may be crap, no Idea. I haven't re-bought this, Michael Rolland wine after all. And I'd not a fan. Still, THIS year, THIS time, THIS wine is pretty good. My wines. MY cellar. Two or three months, who knows? All I can say. And just saying. Kinda why I g...

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I'm exactly the one to say I told you so. So I will.

I told you so.

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Damn! Two votes for Ridge and lamb.

My next quest is goat.

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Well, at least Biden hasn't shot anyone. I mean, face, neck and chest wounds? The man was facing Cheney and not that far away from the spread. Cheney didn't see him then Cheney is legally blind with glasses and should have ALL hunting licenses revoked. As well as drivers license. I've got my personn...

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Story goes someone gave them a case of 1982 Lynch-Bages for their wedding (Kathryn's step mother, not mother). They liked it so they'd replace it with same chateau as the years passed. Last bottle I saw was a 1994. Mostly onesies and twosies. I was offered one of the 89's. Will pick it up next time ...

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Feh, Cianci has nothing on a certain jailed and re-elected DC mayor who is now elected as a Ward rep, and in trouble again, taxes this time methinks. Must be a thing now-a-days. Politicians and taxes.

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I don't buy Zin worth taking note of anymore, and mostly the Kunde Sonoma when the county puts it on sale when I do buy. The Kunde is a Ridge type blend and style, but for near a third the price. I've liked the Montelena Zinfandel, but it's no Ridge Geyserville. And for the same money or so. Zin was...

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I've enjoyed every left bank 1998 I've. had. Some more than others, and mostly the day popped, not the following day. It's not a long lived vintage, but not a 'bad' one. Some cellars will demonstrate a better vintage than others. I have many 1998 left bankers. I've enjoyed Sociando-Mallet, GPL, Lync...

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