Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

Claudius

Guys I agree with the TCA incidence issue mentioned by Jim but randox/premox is a batch not individual bottle problem. It is also linked to growers - some wines I've had, the entire case (and multple cases on 99 Paul Pillots) were pink coloured and wines from other producers were perfect - and still...

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Houndsong, the vintage WAS a freakshow based on the weather. I was in Europe during the 03 vintage and it was unbeleivably hot. Many of the vineyard areas got weather over 50 degrees C (I'm talking about over 120F) and in most areas it was the hottest recorded temps ever. I think in Bordeaux, it was...

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Mouton Cadet is faked??
Next it will be Yellowtail, then Lambrusco....

The other point is that why buy 50-70 year old wine anyway??
Better to stick to 82, 90 etc from reputable sources.

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Guys I bought quite a lot of 03s and have to say I have mixed feelings aobut them - and hope like hell that they become top wines. having said that, the better wines like lafite, Montrose, Cos, PC, the Leovilles et al are outstanding wines. Yet the vintage is a bit of a minefield and the lesser wine...

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Jim
You may well be correct - it may have been Bobby K instead.
I would have been in 2nd grade at school in 1963.
Having said that I certainly do recall the media coverage here of JFK's assassination with mass media coverage all over the place.

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Claret, Well, I sometimes wonder why I bought it all. At the moment, the older stuff is either being pulled oout for consumption or sent to auction. I'm currently drinking 96, 98 and 00 reds. I have just about finished the 97s - a rounder, lower acid year that was a bit simple but quite delicious. A...

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Guys, The whites from 07 are very good, with length and purity, unlike the fuller, fatter wines of 05 and 06. It is a style thing, but to me 07 is a much better white vintage (just hpe the ones I have bought don't get randox..) 07 is maybe a cross between 00 and 01?? Both are way underrated - can't ...

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Jim Yes it was a very sad day. I was watching "Lost in Space" on TV and there was a newsflash to say that JFK had been shot - and that further flashes will provide more info. Soon after the next newsflash was that he had been murdered. I recall the quiet of the neighbourhood - and we were ...

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JIm, I agree to an extent but there are so many factors. Firstly, I do NOT rate wines out of 100. If you check my notes I describe the wine rather than rate it. I have no idea what 95 (whatever) tastes like anyway. But I've drunk a dozen wines from the same case over a month or two and found that I ...

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Glenn, Whilst I agree in drinking all the older white Burgs, premox is also producer driven. I well know that horrible feeling when you see the bleached cork and that strange grey/blue tint. In recent years I have been mainly buying Remoissenets as I have not had a single oxidised bottle - and that ...

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Jim Most of the wine world is too impatient - and I wonder if they will later criticise 05 for the same reason?? In verticals I find the 86s stand out for their power and dark fruit - they are some of the best Bx I've ever had and compare well with 82, 90 et al. I'm not averse to tannin and love the...

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Jim,
I saw this on a plane some time ago flying to Singapore or Thailand.
It was better than I expected if a little over-acted and hammed up.
Filled a few hours on a flight at least!
I'd give it 3 stars.

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Comte If you waited a bit longer for the premox to worsen, the Chablis would also have been beyond redemption. The premox plague is also grower specific. The main white Burg producer I have these days is Remoissenet, and none of these have been premoxed in any year. Yet I have had many grwoer's wine...

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Well,
Sounds like too many sour grapes and Baston didn't make the world series...

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Guys, I actually have bought a few DV in recent years and yes, I do thik it has improved, but would like to see it consistently produce good wine, not just occasionally. I don't know what RG would go for but can't possibly see it attracting $US100M. Are any of you guys merchant bankers?? A way of do...

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Guys I really think we should all chip in and buy out an underperforming margaux estate. Wines from this village - when good - have a magical perfume and quite unique flavour, redolent of violets, roses, red and black fruits, that are about as good as wine can get. Yet most of the properties are inc...

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Based on your note, the Rion Echezeaux sounds Brett affected.

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Jon
if they taste like "picnic" wines then they should commensurately be at picnic prices, surely.
2007 is like 1997 - overpriced and later dumped often on the on-licence market at low prices.

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Sure, he was fooled.
But I blame Rodenstock for that, though recognise that Broadbent should have looked into the provenance more.
Yet it probably didn't occur to him that those revered olkd bottles were forgeries.

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Jim,
I think you are being a bit hard.
Putting the billionaire's vinegar aside, he does have a good palate.

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David, there was a story in the last Decanter (UK) that included different opinions re: 03; some in the industry loved them, others hated them and quesitoned their ageing. So the article and other polarised views is confusing. I have ont opened the top wines recently, just a few cheaper versions, an...

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Jim,
I agree.
And for that reason, some 05s are a worry.

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Ramon, I've tried the wqines you refer to and as noted above, they are very good for the vintage with some great wines. Yet this is a vintage that need to be bought with care. Can I also ask - when should the classed growths be consumed?? I have no idea as the style is atypical and everyone seems to...

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Jim
You beat me by a week or two.
I was staying at Cordellian bages.
By end Sept, the weather was still pleasant and dry, the grapes were perfect.
They tasted nice as fruit!

Having said that, I don't know if 05 is better and who can say for decades, though the tannins in 05s can be a worry.

Claudius

Interestingly, I do have a soft spot for 2000 as I was there during the vintage - I can recall the smiles on the faces as the fruit came in - it looked perfect. I have not opened many of the 00s that I've got as I want to open them with more age. And I still have lots of older vintages to get thru. ...

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David, the other issue I face is called age. I'm in my 50's and have a few health problems that may seriously limit life expectancy (no, not wine related). The 05s are very powerful wines and I can't see them being properly ready at the super second/first level for 20-30 years. So unless I can guara...

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1. Margaux
2. Margaux 82 or 83 for current drinking.
3. Branaire in recent years, though Lagrange, GPL and SM get a look in
4. Bellevue Haut Medoc

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Guys, I have no doubt that there are many top wines from 03 and alluded to several - not sure the SM is that great but I have liked several wines. Yet even the mid range wines are in my mind risky. Wines like D'armhaillac, Clerc Milon etc still show me that scorched fruit character. The Canon de Bre...

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These two wines show the vintages well. 03 Canon de Brem If you really like 03, I wonder if you like Bordeaux at all. This wine if it was blind wold have been picked as probably from the Riverina in Australia or the Calif Central Valley. It was very dark, quite thick, smelling of burnt or roasted fr...

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One last point
In Australia, the retailers have been sending their 06s to auction - they got stuck at the wrong time.
They are NOT moving and most are being passed in.

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Guys,
I think there are still better values out there.
06 has not come down where QPR makes snese.
Maybe it will eventually, but 01, 02, 04 are looking good if you want value.

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Janine,
I'll be in Berlin, Dresden and Prague on those dates.
Can you make it that far

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Sorry to be cynical but this vintage of the century/decade or ever stuff is silly. Maybe I'm a bit weird but I try to find someting in all the vintage swith the excpetion of the obviously bad ones. I've just been reading a few Burg sites that say 2009 is even better than 2005. If that's the case, I'...

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Houndsong, I don't think so. There are plenty of experts - try Winemega for example. I haven't seen a boycott of 08s anyway. I've bought 4x6 bottle cases though none in 07 and only 2 6 bottle cases in 06. Too expensive in 06 and crap vintage in 07. 2007s were dead here. The usual importers gave them...

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What a typically bureaucratic way of dealing with the issue.
Change the AC and the problem goes away.
Err, it will only serve to confuse and disappoint the market.

Maybe improving the quality of the wine would help?

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Houndsong & Alex R, Not tried the 89 Langoa but have had the 89 Leoville a few years ago. Very nice user friendly wine. Not exactly complex but with a round, smooth, slightly sweet flavour. Some earth, tobacco, cedar and chocolate to balance ripe (not overripe) dark fruits. The flavour stuck in ...

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Guys, In the many years I have been drinking wine, the first growths and other trophy wines (Petrus, Le Pin, Lafleur et al) have become the wines of the new rich, arbitragers and blatant show-offs. They can all shove it. I have not bought first growths since 2002 vintage and even then I thought they...

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Rick, Good to hear it is showing quite well. I've got some of both the 95 and 96 of this wine. The wines from this estate can be variable, but often show that real Margaux character that is quite unique to the area. Must think of drinking it soon based on your comments, though I've found older versi...

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Guys, I've been working my way though 2 cases of 98 Cortons from Tolot beaut, the Corton and Corton Bressandes. They are both really good wines - firmly tannic and earthy but with dense red and black fruits and a hint of truffle. Corton needs age - it does not show well young and I think is often un...

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Guys,
I am an unabashed lover of 1986 Bordeaux.
If 06 is really as good, then load up.
Many producers made much better 86's than 82's.

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