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Not just Shady business model as per the article. but seems illegal business practices...

https://www.wine-searcher.com/m/2023/05 ... feet-under

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jckba wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:33 am I need a Costco like yours around me!

Our Costco is going bonkers with another round of 2019 Bordeaux...

2019 D'Issan - $46
2019 Duhart - $60
2019 Clerc Milon - $60
2019 Les Pagodas Cos - $40
2019 Beychevelle - $66

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Prices listed in pending auctions mean nothing to me. All I know is my own experience trying to buy 1989 Lynch these days, try to realistically buy it for under $500. The 89/90 Lynch lot means nothing to me. 1990 is not 1989. Adding 1990 to 1989 diminishes the value of 1989, what is the strategy be...

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Musigny 151 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:07 pmDDLC?

Musigny,

It's Domaine de la Cote, out of Lompoc, CA. They make Pinots...

https://domainedelacote.com/

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jal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:02 am
Chateau Vin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:32 am - 2021 DDLC vintage release pack of 3 - Estate, Bloomsfield and Memorious @305 with shipping
Amazing. Price has doubled in 2 years!!

Yes, Jaques. Probably it's my last buy of DDLC, and am not sure if the increase in price is justified....

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- 2021 DDLC vintage release pack of 3 - Estate, Bloomsfield and Memorious @305 with shipping - 2019 Ducru x 2 @139 each - 2019 Giscours x 3 @44 each - 2019 Pontet Canet @79 ========================================== Finally see some 2019s in our local Costco, but it seems 2020s are on their heels so...

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jckba wrote: ↑Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:11 am Nice notes on a nice set of wines and what vintage was that Vajra BdV as 2015 was anything but cool?

It was 2015, but for me as far as Piedmont region goes, 2015 is cool enough for me, considering the hotter vintages recently, but agreed is not as cool as 2013...

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Local Costco also had 2019 Petit Mouton for $169 a pop. Wondering if it’s worth or get more of Palmer for 30 bucks more...

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So, one of my high school buddies visited from Beantown last weekend. It’s 35 years since we last met while we were in high school, and it was great seeing his family, and in honor of his visit we had the following over couple of nights... 1989 Olivier - great fill and the bottle was in very pristin...

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From our local Costco— 2 bottles of 2019 Palmer @199 each ..

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I am not too sure about this classification...

It’s interesting where he placed his own chateau, which is more than debatable...

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After nearly 12 years or so, the workhorse decanter broke...

Does lead free vs lead crystal decanter make any difference in terms of safety? Any suggestions for a good decanter, especially lead free? I see lot of chinese branded decanters, which I don't know their quality.

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£ 1,300 per month?! I realize that pharmaceutical firms spend millions on research but that seems like an outrageous price. Aren't their any government watchdogs to keep a cap on things? Alex Watchdog? :lol: If you are a big buyer from a manufacturer, you are free to negotiate a lower price in any ...

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And here I was thinking the exact opposite; the Baron was my wine of the tasting and liked it more than the Lalande, the Lynch was good but a little closed down in comparison and as such, didn’t really register for me. I hear you JC... I think it depends when you get the pour after the bottle was o...

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The 20 Lynch Bages was one of the stars of the UGC. Agree.. It depends on how the wines were showing at that time and how long the bottle had been opened, but Lynch showed really well (even better than the Pichons that day for me) and it has 13 abv The notable thing is, 2020 Duhart has only 12.5 ab...

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Man, this is all a pleasant surprise, I knew the reports of 2019 were generally positive, but I didn’t expect this positive. I’m very enthusiastic about that Giscours the other night, it’s a beauty. If you liked 19 Giscours, I predict you would love 20 Giscours as well. Was at the UGC tasting— Gisc...

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I can’t believe BD is not inclined to try Gloria.... The estate is having a nice run for the past few years, and I implore to do so to see if it can vie for the BWE WOTY...

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FWIW, the last Lynch I liked was 2009 vintage. The vintages followed since are a tad lower than 2009 for me (including 2010 and 2016). One caveat—I haven’t tasted 2019 though, and I hope to taste 2020 this coming Thursday...

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Hmmm.... Echo has always been a joke, even before it was rechristened from Averous(?) or whatever it was called before. I am surprised that you even bought it. Couple of times when I had it years before (I didn’t buy), I felt that there are so many Cru Bourgeois that are much better... Right now, th...

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Here are my 10 Observations.... 1. Pichon "Purple' Baron is widely adored ( :arrow: just had 6 omissions out of 19; Next is Leo Barton with 7, P Lalande and Lynch with 8 each and Montrose with 9); Widely adored Right bank is La Conseillante... 2. Don't know why stefan even listed 'Nameless' win...

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Only in an alphabetical order....

Calon Segur
Climens
La Conseillante
Lafon Rochet
Leoville Barton
Lynch Bages
Montrose
Pichon Baron
Rauzan Segla
Sociando Mallet

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Somebody just asked me on CT what the alcohol levels were for the 89/90 Montrose, good question, does anybody know? Off of internet, 89 Montrose - 13% 90 Montrose- 13% I just checked 2016 Montrose, and the abv for it is 13.5%. I also have 2010, 2012 Montrose, and single bottles of 2002, 2004 and 20...

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Montrose is my top 3 Chateaux, and wondering how does it compare with 2016, Jim. I thought you had 16 Montrose, right??

So 2019 Montrose, 2023 BWE WOTY? It’s about time for Montrose to be on that esteemed list...

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Chateau Vin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 3:43 am Cantemerle or La Lagune, I say...

Oh, it was around 25 bucks in 2001?? Then could it be GPL or Gruaud Larose??

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Cantemerle or La Lagune, I say...

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If interested, this article by Asimov is informative... Asimov doesn’t mention, but IIRC, decades ago, some Savigny producers used to blend reds with even the whites :o , which contributed to consumers not taking it seriously at that time... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/16/dining/drinks/savigny-l...

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JimHow wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:32 am 2019 Domaine Pavelot Gravains x 7
2020 Domaine Pavelot Dominode x 1
2020 Domaine Pavelot Guettes x 1
2019 Domaine Pavelot Dominode x 1
2019 Domaine Pavelot Lavieres x 1
2018 Domaine Pavelot Dominode x 1

I reckon those are all great, although never had any Guettes...

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I think that 19 Giscours you mentioned was all gone. Few weeks back I saw over 5 cases in inventory of that... I urged my friends to get some, but they didn’t.

Maybe people scooped up whatever was meagerly available of 2019s at NH...

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With no get togethers, parties canceled, celebrations put in hold during covid times, maybe NH has even more compelling reason not to buy champagne compared to Bordeaux??

Speaking of Dom, I saw 2012 Dom Perignon at our local Costco for 214 each...

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Curious— why it was poured in different stemware...

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Interesting thought CV. My recollection is that liquor stores did land order business early in the pandemic. But I can see uncertainty leading to a limited offering. Also the 19 vintage was marred by that uncertainty about that tariff fight, and that might have contributed to NH placing fewer order...

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Maybe NH barely bought any 19 Bdx, and pandemic times might have played a role in that...

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Now we have 3 WOTYs from 2016...

Greatest vintage of all time??

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Whoa....

I didn’t see that coming...

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I used to analyze credit risk in a prior life, and I don't think buying EP makes any sense in the modern era. At one point it did, and buyers were 'paid' for the risk they assumed. Now its all reversed. ======== For those willing to take the risk, the WDC trick of using a shopping portal to buy sma...

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Indeed, I’ve never bought futures other than a few wines for the 2019 vintage. Some of those very early prices from Zachys seem almost too good to be true. What especially alerts me to a problem is the lack of champagne in New Hampshire. Here we are in the middle of holiday season and there is not ...

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I don't buy on futures, my last big futures purchase was in the 2000 vintage (OMG almost 25 years ago!). I was upset on seeing wines I had ordered on futures available in other stores on the shelves and not at the retailer from which I purchased. Since then I decided I want to make sure the wine is...

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I second SF Ed. It’s the supply chain issue that I can think of. I have nearly four cases of 2019s, and I received all of them except two splits from Wallys and 2 regulars from Total Wine. I have seen couple of bottles (think giscours and that stinky la lagune) in Trader Joes. Saw couple of second w...

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The Grand Vin clocks abv at 14.5, a tad less than that of its younger sibling...

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I thought I bought 6 bottles of 2016 Ch. Siran online at a local retailer, but when I went to pick them up, it was the S de Siran. At $40 each I was happy to buy more '16 Siran, but I'm not paying that for their second wine. That’s a bummer... I don’t know how 19 Siran compares with 16 Siran, but o...

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