Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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sdr wrote:For a BWE convention, I'm available 52 weekends a year.

Now that's the true BWE spirit. BRAVO, stuart!

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Oops, I didn't know the weekend of April 21st - April 24th was Easter. Ok, then we need to choose a different weekend. I really have no idea what's the best weekend for most of us, but no one puts out a date, so let's try and correct, and here it is: The weekend of May 19th - 22nd? Can the following...

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I re-read the other thread, and also contacted some of the west coast BWEers. It looks like we have the following potential attendees if we move the dates to the weekend of April 21st - April 24th: Ed and Lisa MichaelP (and ?) CabFan and Victoria Chris and Werner Bill and Linda (if we move the dates...

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Thanks for the catch, Pat. I have made the corrections.

Werner

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Why don't we start it first? All weekends are open to us for now. What's your situation, Jim?

Would the weekend " April 28th - May 1st" work for everyone?

Werner

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We have it all here in SF! We could arrange something fun to do during the day, like taking a boat trip to Angle Island and take a walk there in the morning, picnic at the beach for lunch, going for tea tasting in the afternoon (yes, Tea, not wine.. LOL. Ok, or wine tasting if you so insist.), going...

aimeedogdogdog

Thanks for the notes, Jim and Hound!

It's been a while since reading tasting notes like this. For some reason, it just popped out at you. I could taste it! Hmmm...Yum!
I suspect it's the weather...

Werner

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Hi Tom and Gail,

We'll miss you guys too as Tessa has her dancing class Friday in the late afternoon.

Have fun in the city!
Werner

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Jim mentioned it he was considering San Francisco for the next BWE convention. I will leave the decision to Jim and you all. But I have looked into the planning just in case. I have found a venue, the Box SF, which could sit up to 100 people. This venue has to be booked for the whole floor, which ha...

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I have yet to taste any wines from 2006-2009. I think this situation would last maybe a bit longer. But keep the tasting notes coming, one day I would find them helpful.

Werner

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David, you are not alone. I missed this too. I am still clueless. Jim, May I suggest that you put all these stuff into some plots in your next few books? I think it might be good stuff for some dramas. And it would give those of us who missed and are still clueless something to catch up on what happ...

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Congratulations, Nic! This is exciting news! Happy to hear everything goes well.

Chris, Werner and Tessa

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I think you all might be right from your own angle. But the truth is in the pudding and only time could tell (more below). I would like to add another criteria for considering -- provenance. Often enough provenance is ignored to certain degree that most of the great wines we have been talking about ...

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"I'm only suggesting that those wines were at least as far from every "experienced" taster's norms as 2009 Cos d'Estornel might be today." I see what you meant. I agree. Pavie probably came in the scene before Cos, and they are likely not the last ones either. "So why are we...

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Not sure about '45 Mouton, but '47 Cheval Blanc was a mistake, albeit a beautiful mistake. So nowadays everybody is trying to re-create that singular wine? "by that standard we'd have dumped every bottle of '45 Mouton and '47 Cheval Blanc down the drain -- **untasted** -- because they were &quo...

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I agree with Tom...but if someone who tasted it compares it to an over-the-top Australian shiraz, then from this zone it is off --- Bordeaux has never been about over-the-top power, overripe fruits, and extreme alcohol. It has always been about balance, finesse, and terroir. "Tim Atkin noted th...

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Pre-1996(?) vintages somehow got their structure and ingredients (vintage hallmarks) more naturally from the vintages themselves? Post-1996 deliberately extracted more technically? Would the latter pay for it at the end? You be the judge. Alex reported '2009 Cos is overly extracted? How many other w...

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Regarding southern rhones, I think I tried a few at a tasting when 2001 (? whatever the previous vintage of the century was) first came out. The first wines were way too big for me (which in my mind were tweaked). I couldn't pass to have a second sip. So I tried thier second wines, which surprisely ...

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Thanks for the reports, Alex!

Werner

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Without the usual big fruit behind the wine, the '01 we can look for right now are the balance, finesse and nuances, i.e. terroir. Some might be well integrated and the others not. When they are mature, hence come with the complexity, transparency, and all of the interesting and tasting components. ...

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Thanks, David! I will look into it.

Werner

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Jim, Last year it was the '83 Lalande. I would like to thank you for creating this website which throughout the last 10 years has been providing a lot of fun, friendship, interesting discussion, common interest in Bordeaux/wines to share, and last but not least a great sense of "life is good&qu...

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Thank you Jon, Rick and Bob for all your hard work and a wonderful dinner night. One of the best conventions!

Werner

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I thought the lynch was way better than the Pichon. The latter was flat on taste and had a weak aftertaste. The lynch was always around and full, rich and deep; that being said it's somehow contained in a cage and couldn't show its full color. Eventually it opened up but it's too late for the vote t...

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How good a bottle is good? Hmm... I think it really boils down to what you are looking for. Some good/great wines cost betwen $20-$100. From what I see, there are 3 ways to deal with the problem. A. The easy way (the alternative way): I agree with everything said so far by other folks. What I can ad...

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Thanks, Jon. I did email Kila a few days ago asking about the same topic. She asked from what states the wine shipping were. They have to know because different states have different laws about the wine shipping. I was going to ask folks here from where their shipping are but got busy till today to ...

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We have been waiting, Stuart. Count us in (3 of us. Tessa is coming too.)

Werner

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Jim,

Is there such a function on our website that we could stick all 2010 BWE convention threads at the top of the forum page? This way it's easy to locate the Thursday dinner plan, Friday dinner plan, Saturday event, etc. (I can't find the Thursday dinner plan thread(s)

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Werner

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Just a thought: Would the hotel or the restaurant accept the wine shipment? If they do, it might make things easier. I don't know the wine shipping law in Chicago. Anyone knows?

Werner

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Michael, Thanks for the notes! We had an '85 Giacosa barbaresco a few years ago and had the same impression as yours. At that night we also had a young Giacosa (1997?) to compare and I didn't see much difference in terms of development. At age of 15 this wine was barely developing. Now your note sug...

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I think these '88 bordeaux have a lot of personalities, individually. This is a charming vintage for those who look into terroir and want to know the wine on a quiet night. I will need to look for more bottles.

Thanks for the notes, Michael.

Werner

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We are booked into Affinia Thur-Mon. Kila was very helpful.

Thanks, Howard!

Werner

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We are coming too.

Blanquito
SF Ed
Jim H
Jon N and Paula
Jon B
Danny and Danielle
David G
Rick and Kathy plus 6
Bill and Jan
Howard & Lisa
Jay and Peggy
Stu and Kathy
Chris B
Nic
Michael P
Tom and Gail
Tim
Chris and Werner

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<<It is medium-bodied and fairly rich, with great length and persistence of flavor. It doesn’t show much if anything in the way of tannins, but it still seems awfully healthy to me.>> I think you just summmed it up very precisisely for the '66 vintage here! An amazing and charming vintage! Thanks fo...

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I think most 2003 have the burnt (and dull) flavor, except some top wines like Montrose (a truly great wine from the beginning). I cross my fingers that the 2003 Ducru (and later versions which I haven't tried any yet) wouldn't lose the chateau signature when it matures: nuances, elegance and precis...

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Happy Birthday, Gail!
Happy 30th Anniversary, Tom and Gail!

Werner

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I think something like 50% of the bottles of the chateau from the late '80s are tainted. Would I be lucky enough to have a good bottle of the 1988 vintage? From outside, the bottle was clean. The fill was just half an inch below the leg of the capsule. So far so good. My hope was still half/half bec...

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Thanks for the notes, Jon. The '95 sounds like traditional italian food wine. Yum! Wine shouldn't need a lot of everything to be good. Enough is good enough (college engineering motto: How good is good? Good enough is good!). I will make some effort and see if I could source a bottle to see for myse...

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I have similar impression as Nick on Clerc-Milon. Of course there is always exception, like the 2000 vintage of it, which is a beautiful wine and a great wine. The '90 was nice too in a lean and austere way, contrary to the '90 vintage style of ripe and rich. When it's too lean and austere for you, ...

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Alex, <<I have many 2000s and a sprinkling of 2005s. I will never buy into a great vintage again (en primeur or just after bottling), but am sure to buy other vintages that I will be able to appreciate at (or near) their peak before I go to the Big Wine Cellar in the Sky.>> Just curious. Do you find...

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