Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

aimeedogdogdog

I was a bit shocked too that the lady was so firm on the restaurant policy. She said the boss would not allow any budge on it. I will see if she would budge later on when I could educate her more on our convention. Glenn, The Box SF -- no corkage fee One Market -- $20/person Absinthe -- $30/bottle S...

aimeedogdogdog

So far we have the following potential venues:
1. The Box SF with catering at $200/person
2. One Market at ~$150/person
3. Absinthe at ~$150/person

I have yet to take a look at the sites in person.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Question 1. Would it be ok if we need to do strict hours with restaurant Absinthe? 6:00pm - 7:00pm: Welcome with Champagne 7:00pm - 7:30pm/7:45pm: Blind Tasting 7:30pm/7:45pm - 9:30pm: 3-course Dinner 9:30pm - 10:00pm BWE guests catch up with each other All Guests leave by 10:00pm. They charge corka...

aimeedogdogdog

The communication with One Market is extremely slow. I hope their dining service is better on the convention day for us, if we choose them. I am looking at two other extra venues now, Absinthe and Grand Cafe. And they are french cuisine which looks like wine friendly. So I would work on the ~$150/pe...

aimeedogdogdog

dstgolf, There's globus sign to the right of PM sign - click on it and you've access to my website. Even with coldest spring and cool beginning to summer, there was lesser fruit set, warm and dry July and August and September, cool nights preserving aromas and no diseases in the vineyard in 2010. T...

aimeedogdogdog

Good theme, Mike.

Blanquito suggested we had an '83 bordeaux theme for a pre-Saturday dinner in the convention 2011. We might as well have it.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Bill,

They do have a few private dining rooms according to their website and the girls I talked to. They are probably very well hidden from the normal diners view.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Thanks for the notes, guys! A wonderful evening with good food, wine and friends. The '60s and '70s are probably in a different landscape vs modern day. So it's key to select those representing well for those two decades, if one would like to see what the best the '60s and '70s could provide. For ex...

aimeedogdogdog

Michael,

Corkage fee is $20/person in the private dining room in One Market.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Michael and Jon, thanks for the comments about the service and food in One Market. It looks like the girls from One Market would be very busy this Saturday (wedding banquet) that they are not available to show us to the private room. This would take a while. I would keep working on the Box SF and th...

aimeedogdogdog

I forgot to mention. The private room in the restaurant is limited for 40 people. Thanks.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

I have a briefing from the girl of the restaurant who is responsible for the private parties. It's a formula of the minimum fee in the private room =< total food cost + $20 corkage/person + 20% or %30% service charge (forget which) + sales tax, etc. My estimated quote for the restaurant is probably ...

aimeedogdogdog

Thanks for the replies so far. My goal is to have all potential attendees coming to the convention! Then a good venue and good food that could make it happen. I am trying to find the upper limit of the budget with that all potential attendees feel comfortable, and turn it into the best venue and foo...

aimeedogdogdog

Jim, So far we have 37 who have expressed an interest in attending, but as we know from the past expereince a few would drop out. So I use 32 headcounts for calculations. I haven't seen the venue in person yet at the Box SF (a walk-throu will be on Oct 23rd Saturday). I saw the menu from one caterin...

aimeedogdogdog

Glenn, Traditionally we have $200 at max. Would a 20% more, aka $220 be fine with you? I just want to see how far I could go before cutting things. As of now, I use very conservatively a headcount of 32 for calculation as some of the potential attendees would drop out, as from the experience in the ...

aimeedogdogdog

One menu has hors d'oeurs, first course, main course(lamb, sea bass, or veggie), cheese, and dessert. Tea and coffee. It looks very yum. Silverware at the table, plus 1 champagne glass and 3 red vivendi (from rediel). I chose 3 red instead 2 red and 1 white because we didn't have much white wine in ...

aimeedogdogdog

I have a question for all potential attendees: Initially and traditionally, we have the cost capped at $200/person. So far I have two quotes from catering service + rental at the Box SF, which would push up the cost to $250/person. Before I go back and cut corners here and there, could you all tell ...

aimeedogdogdog

I think it is pretty well documented that sensitivity to TCA varies enormously from person to person... It might probably be very true physically. But I think sometimes it's psychological more than anything else. I used to be very sensitive to my hands being very clean that i couldn't stand a bit d...

aimeedogdogdog

David and Stafan, Just curious. What were your take on MichaelP's LLC and the '89 Baron? Were they corked or not? David, There was a wine I thought it was off. You took it to Stefan and came back saying he thought it was the same. Which wine was that? I don't remmeber. Once someone had a corked wine...

aimeedogdogdog

I have a question. Forget if TCA mutes the wine. Does it have any health issue come with it? If not, I don't think it's good to waste any wine if it's lightly tainted and/or you don't detect it at all.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

stefan wrote:If the wine gets better with time, it wasn't TCA. TCA only gets worse. If you are not sure whether a bottle has TCA, save some for the next day.

So were the wine at Chicago 2010 corked or not? Probably again everyone's definition is different?

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

It doesn't matter to me if TCA is a myth. Something is real and it makes the occasional bottle smell like old wet socks, and have barely any taste. Houndsong, Sometimes the old wet socks would blow off on some wines half an hour later, and the wine could be great. Not sure if you gave those wine a ...

aimeedogdogdog

AT Chicago 2010, I think Danny posted later that it's MichaelP's LLC which was corked. I didn't pay much attention because the wine was open on the nose and palate and it tasted ok. I don't know if Danny's table thought the '89 Baron corked but it did have muted nose and palate, but then it opened u...

aimeedogdogdog

Jim, It could seat up to 90 people but it's like leg-to-leg close in the big room. We also would have the smaller room next which could accommodate 15? But there is a wall in between the two rooms so it's better to seat all of us in the same room. I think I liked the spacious room in Chocago last co...

aimeedogdogdog

JonB, You could bring your wife. Because I am a huge tea lover too. I know Stefan's daughter is also a huge tea lover. We could do something really fun with our tea. I think I have been toying with the idea of having at least a tea party on the BWE convention weekend. I have some exotic, designer, c...

aimeedogdogdog

Jim and all,

Do we want to apply a cap on the 40 headcounts as usual?

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

The 10th BWE convention next year would be held in San Francisco on the weekend of May 19-May 22, 2011. If anyone of you raised hand without knowing the exact day, let me know if you can't make it so I could take you out of the list. I have contacted the Box SF as a venue, and would have a walk-thro...

aimeedogdogdog

Jim,

The last round of roll call of the 2011 BWE convention in San Francisco is for the weekend of May 19 - May 22, 2011.
I think we have a good size of a group and this is the date then.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Updated list:

Stuart and wife
Stefan and Jan (T and Judd?)
CabFan and Victoria
Chris and Werner ( + 2 guests)
Ian
Patrick
Jay and wife
Jal and Jill
Jon and Paula
Jim
Tom and Gail
Chris
Glenn ( and ?)
Bill and Linda
Rick and Kathy
Ed and Lisa
Nick?
MichaelP ( and ?)
JonB (and ?)

Total = 37

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

We will have 2 guests to come with us.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Updated list:

Stuart and wife
Stefan and Jan (T and Judd?)
CabFan and Victoria
Chris and Werner
Ian
Patrick
Jay and wife
Jal and Jill
Jon and Paula
Jim
Tom and Gail
Chris
Glenn ( and ?)
Bill and Linda
Rick and Kathy
Ed and Lisa
Nick?

Total = 31

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Patrick, Taking up another hobby might help. Like us (or Nick) raising a kid... which definitely would put you out of the map. Ok, so I realize this hobby is way too extreme. How about trying some green tea for a starter? Or somthing else which you have been wishing to do since a kid. Good luck! Wer...

aimeedogdogdog

Indeed, Harry. Mature Rhones could be very sexy and just pure enjoyment, more so than even burgundy! I had some mature rhone wines more than 10 years ago and they were just pure sex. A reference point so far. Patrick, Maybe you could try the less so classified 2007 rhones? From the past, I had exper...

aimeedogdogdog

Updated list: Stuart and wife Stefan and Jan CabFan and Victoria Chris and Werner Ian Patrick Jay and wife Jal and Jill Jon and Paula Jim Tom and Gail Chris A total of 20 people. A good size of a group. I think I will go ahead and make an appointment for a walk-throu in the venue BoxSF in late Octob...

aimeedogdogdog

I think the premox usually shows up at age 6-7 years. If it doesn't at the time, it should be fine, no?

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

So the '96 Burgundy is ready, Stefan? I expected at least another 5 years for them to reach maturity. I guess some develop faster than others.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

It sounds very Bordeaux '88, which is full of characters. Your note immediately reminds me of the '88 Ducru Beaucaillou. I really need to search for more '88 Bordeaux.

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Updated list:

Stuart and wife
Stefan and Jan
CabFan and Victoria
Chris and Werner
Ian
Patrick
Jay and wife
Jal and Jill
Jon and Paula
Jim

Werner

aimeedogdogdog

Thanks for the response, guys! Here is a list of potential attendees who have expressed interest in coming to the 2011 BWE convention in San Francisco on May 19 - May 22: Stuart and wife Stefan and Jan CabFan and Victoria Chris and Werner Ian Patrick Jay and wife Jal and Jill We need more folks to r...

aimeedogdogdog

I am glad you jump in now, Jim. I was thinking the whole day I would ban you from the 2011 BWE convention if you state it so later on (or at least a 7-day ban from posting on the BWE website). :twisted: What a relief! Can we then try the weekend of May 19th - 22nd again? We just need folks to check ...

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