Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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Sangiovese fans on this board (who kindly reawakened my love for Tuscan reds!) will know more than me about this producer but my sense is that Lisini is regarded as being at the top of the Brunello tree but at more sensible prices than more celebrated names. I have 6 Brunello 04s in the cellar. (Abo...

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Oh dear - this thread is making me come over all guilty. I drink good red wine every day (claret, burgundy or Tuscan Sangiovese), more than I should (much more than the UK govt says I should, anyway) and have done for decades. At my age it's one of life's few remaining pleasures. How sad is that. Ri...

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Have these made any impact in USA? In UK I've picked up quite a buzz about them - particularly the Bordeaux and Burgundy glasses. They certainly look striking and elegant. Priced between Riedel Vinum and Sommeliers at about £27.50 a stem.

Will treat myself to one of each I think!

Richard

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Happy new year to you all from a snow-bound UK. Not best wine of 09 but which wine did you open most often in 09? For me it's a surprise and I owe it entirely to you guys of BWE who returned me to Sangiovese after many years of spurning it. Many thanks to all the expert Sangio fans on this board. So...

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Thanks Chasse - UK readers may know that this is a Majestic staple - have to say I found the 05 a bit stalky and unbalanced some months ago but at £10...

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...and the 03 was poor, even by 03 standards (!)

Richard

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These are terrific. The Bel Air 04 I recommended some time ago but the 05 is a predictable step-up without compromising its very reserved, traditional profile. The Potensac I also enthused about here so I thought I'd compare. Geographically close, of course, and similar UK price (c£13), and the cepa...

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I agree with David - leftbank 04 is really a very BWE vintage in style and in value (the last value vintage?) and for me Langoa and Soc Mallet were/are just amazingly good for what was their opening prices - as was/is Durfort but I think I'll have a time propelling this Margaux to the BWE wine of th...

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Langoa 04 or Soc Mallet 04

Archetype BWE wines.

Richard

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I prefer to the 03 but don't tell Jim!

Richard

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Bought a case of the 05 last year - first 2 botttles have been backward, touch of rubber on the nose (that I associate with young Pomerol), promising.

Richard

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Only caught the end of this news and you guys probably know already, but Broadbent apparently won his UK case for defamation (?) against the billionaire's vinegar book and the UK copies have been pulled. He was quoted as commenting something like: 'oh good, I'm off to my club to celebrate with a mag...

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Jim - 06 Bordeaux isn't mediocre!

Richard

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I remember years ago coming across a Jancis note on a classed-growth claret that ended with the words 'I'm thinking airlines...'

Made no sense at the time (going on holiday, dear?) but see it now.

Richard

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Thanks - am about to post on a round-up of Sangioveses but just wanted to say that the 06 Selvapiana Riserva Bucerciale was oddly evolved and lacking stuffing though clearly of good pedigree. Wondered if 04 is the better vintage, despite the hype around 06?

Best

Richard

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I've just paid c£22 a pop for a case and hope it impresses me more than Jim!

Richard

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Sorry: should have added that my friend was using 'quite good' in the UK not the USA sense - ie 'not very good',ie 'good enough' (and by implication 'bloody awful in Acts 1, 2, 3 and 4')

!

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Your limey friend Richard was Hamlet as an Oxford postgraduate. A friend at the time, who later became a Famous Actor, said of the performance: 'You were quite good in Act 5'.

That's what friends are for.

Richard

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I heard about a major bust-up between the owners and Parker. They apparently won't have him on the premises. Perhaps we should instigate a BWE plaque for such properties to display. Gonzague Lurton at Durfort Vivens is another and - what a surprise - this wonderful Margaux always gets derisory Parke...

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At those dollar prices the 04 looks the keenest buy !

It's a really lovely wine for tucking in to while waiting for the 06.

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The Gloria on first evening; the Gruaud and Lagrange compared the next evening. ---Gloria: lovely lustrous colour; very pure (and therefore rather surprising!) aromatics, a compote of fresh and cooked fruit, deliciously St Julien; quite loose-knit on palate, sweetly and succulently balanced, very go...

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04 Sociando one of my candidates for BWE wine of the year.

Richard

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My 06s are now coming in and first bottles suggest an impressive, very BWE-style leftbank vintage. Notes on Gruaud, Lagrange, Gloria to follow soon. Agree that Lagrange is a winner. Best aspects of 02 and 04 combined, better than either. (See Jim's note.) Have extolled the amazing Moulin de la Rose ...

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Poggiotondo Chianti Cerro del Masso 07. Reduced from £8 to £6 (till c Sept 26) at UK upmarket supermarket Waitose, 5% off by the half-dozen brings to just above £5.50. Amazing for the price. Zingy cherry-rich Chianti, pure and ripe and clean and fresh, 80% Sang with 10% Merlot which softens the pack...

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Used to buy Cafaggio CC quite regularly but not for some years. Noticed that 2 UK supermarkets had the 06 on sale - or what was it? Waitrose had the real deal: 'Villa Cafaggio', Italian backlabel, cut to £9 from £13. Marks and Spencer had, 'exclusive and unique to M&S', 'Basilica Cafaggio... Sin...

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Thanks Alex and Chris - I'm sure you're both right - it's better than Bx Sup and the bottle last night had some Graves typicity though the sheen of oak was a touch flashy.

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Thanks - glad the 05 was also good - will try and find it

Richard

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In company. All 4 wines, similarly priced, met before from my cellar but not together. Margaux: Paveil de Luze. St Julien: Sarget de Gruaud Larose. Pauillac: Columbier Monpelou [present from a student: I wouldn't normally buy this property]; St Estephe: Le Crock. The Sarget lagged from the start as ...

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This is the Cazes (of Lynch Bages) property that a number of UK merchants support. Sale price of £7.50 may be rather less than en primeur price but I can't say it tastes more expensive than that. Evolved colour; clean nose with some evident but good quality oak; easy commercial style, not recognizab...

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Hi and thanks for replies

The Oxford Wine Company. They have a man-in-Bordeaux who unearths wines like this. The 05, no: the advice I heard was that the 06 was better.

Oxford wine have just told me that they can source more 06 but at £199 in bond...

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Everything about this property excites and intrigues me. Tiny, about 4.5 hectares, its vines scattered in pockets among the starry river-side St Julien classed-growths. Unknown to RP, I think (but a Clive Coates favourite going back many years). Owner a cousin of the Delons of Las Cases. Rarely expo...

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Forgot to ask PappaDoc and other CCR fans - do you know Poggerino Riserva Bugialla?

Thanks

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Thanks for the expert replies.

In fact, had the third bottle a couple of days ago and liked it much more - pure, balanced, burgundian in texture and weight - will keep the other 3 as PappaDoc suggests.

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Barton 99 is lovely - thanks for the excellent note. I bought 2 cases as my 50th birthday to myself (sigh) and it was very slow to hit its peak but has been on song for a year or so now. One case left. Also bought the Langoa but that was drunk up some time ago - much more forward and rather funky. R...

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11 bottles left, thanks Alex!

Didn't decant, Houndsong - should have!

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Thanks, Winesense. I too like the Dom de Chevalier 04 and nearly put it in the list of best values - but the first two bottles from my case have had a rather strange green vegetably twang behind the quality fruit - perhaps your point about it actually being shut down is the explanation.

Best

Richard

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Readers will know I'm a nay-sayer about 03s and I think I've let slip that I sold everything apart from Soc Mallet and Barton. (Selling some big names realised very welcome profits because of Parker scores and that money helped fund new 06s.) Barton not yet tasted. Well, this is the 4th or 5th bottl...

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Didn't take a note but it's everything you'd expect - pretty damn good, unforced fine wine. Playing the vintage sensibly so it's not over done in any way. Serious tannins. Pretty marked oak at this stage - but high quality oak - but that will settle, I'm sure. Classy wine that is St Julien in style ...

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Bit early but my preliminary thoughts are that left bank 04s deserve reward. The last decently priced vintage (or it was!) and very BWE-style,dry and stylish middle-weights with (at their best) appetising freshness and plenty of fruit. My candidates for value as well as quality (at their opening pri...

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This has long been my second favourite of the 02s I bought in cases (second after Poyferre) and it has now just about hit its stride, if you like quite a rush of tannin at the back. Very natural colour; very Cabernet nose, classy, touch austere, old-style, not a trace of oak; balanced, again on the ...

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