Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

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Mark, You came all the way from Australia to Bordeaux and you take Flix bus to San Sebastian?? Instead to have pleasant journey with French train?? Why not TGV, you could have ticket both ways for about 40 Euros. I advise you to book a table for dinner at Ikaitz ) incredible value for money) and vis...

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There are different criteria for Bordeaux and Burgundy concerning the incorporation of other vineyards.

They are allowed in Bordeaux to include vineyards of the same Cru status.

I think there's a significant quality difference between some GCCs.

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Excellent to hear!

I am the lucky owner of a magnum bottle of this wine.

To open in 2026?

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DavidG,

Yes it is correct. If you look at the published 2022 classification, it is not there.

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1950 Pavie and 1950 Troplong Mondot, run by Valette cousins at that time, tasted together in December 2016, were two beautiful wines with still a lot of life and energy. I think the main cause of selling Pavie was the unwillingness of Jean-Paul Valette's children to run the property. Btw, Pavie Dece...

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On the 8th of September, app. 50-60 properties from Bordeaux came to Copenhagen, arranged by negociant Beyerman. The main theme was vintage 2021, but many properties showed their 2017 and a few properties their vintage 2016 plus 2019. 2021 presented themselves very well, and it seemed that their aro...

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Musigny 151, I think it was Emmanuel Giraud and not Cruse who worked with Anabelle Cruse at Certan Giraud. So he probably is Anabelle's nephew, but it's difficult to be 100% sure. Corbin passed through generations on the female side. Giraud family purchased Corbin in 1924. I have been lucky to taste...

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Musigny 151, You are correct. Jean-Michel Fort didn't have so much to say for the vindication. But I'm not sure he wasn't helping Anabelle with the picking date. Actually, she came back to Bordeaux in 1996 from visiting/working at several wineries around the world and after one year's charity work w...

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Musigny 151,

I have very nice memories of Magdelaine 1982 tasted at Hostellerie de Plaisance in 1998. I am not 100% sure, but I think it cost around 300 french francs that year.

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Ian, I can't get it you trashing Corbin every time somebody mentions it??🙄🥱🤐 Musigny 151 - are you talking about Corbin 2006? It's the first year of cooperation with oenologist Jean-Michel Fort from Rollands. 2020 vintage was without consulting an oenologist. Btw, she's a fully qualified oenologist ...

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Ian,

You should have mentioned Beausejour Duffau, the neighbour next door to Canon, who certainly deserves its place in the hierarchy.

Which vintage of Corbin did you taste last October? Her 2016, 8, 9 and 00 are excellent.

No one of Jonathan Malthus wines was promoted to GCC.

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Chateau Vin,

It seems that you don't believe what Lapierre's website says.

I believe in facts.

Btw, I'm not sensitive to sulphur. After all, I had worked with chemical control of different medicinal products in a state laboratory for 39 years.

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I know Anabelle wanted to buy Certan Giraud when it was for sale but ended with Corbin instead.

She and her cousin made the wine at Certan Giraud until the sale.

I had last year a beautiful bottle of Certan Marzelle 1982 (precisely the same as Certan Giraud but sold a negociant exclusivity).

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Musigny 151, I didn't imply that Corbin has the same quality as Cheval Blanc. I've just said that the composition of the soil was the same. Some geologists have researched that and confirmed the similarities. Corbin is only 2 km from Cheval Blanc. 90% Merlot and 10% C. Franc. Cheval Blanc is 60% Mer...

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Chateau Vin, You are not correct about Cuvee MM..... https://www.marcel-lapierre.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Fiche-Tech-ML-2020.pdf VINIFICATION : Macération semi-carbolique beaujolaise traditionnelle sans SO2 ni levurage, de 15 à 36 jours. ELEVAGE : En pièce de 228 litres, environ 9 mois. MISE E...

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Imho, it's huge mistake that Corbin hasn't been upgraded to PGCC. It's soil is as good as Cheval Blanc's, consistency is perfect and Corbin's wines are a lot better than 90% of GCCs!!

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New PGCC A - Figeac

Corbin Michotte now GCC - to say as Arnold the Terminator - I'm back!! Deservedly so imho.

Some surprises in GCC for me.

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Chateau Vin,

It was Morgon Marcel Lapierre Cuvee XXXIX not his standard Morgon!

He doesn't use sulphur during vinification. It was already mentioned in my post.

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Two more pictures.

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Ozzies=Aussies?

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ericindc,

Lapierre Morgon Cuvee MMXIX.

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Alex, Why shouldn't I be a fan of Beaujolais? It's very healthy to pause Bordeaux after 37 years of constant drinking its wines for a while and restart ones tasting buds with something very different. Especially forgetting the tannin of Bordeaux wines is a very good and healthy thing!! :ugeek: I'm f...

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un bureaucrate,

You will be thrilled when tasting Thivin's Godefroy and Les Griottes de Bruilhe, Foillard's Morgon Cote de Puy and Mee Godard's Morgon Cote de Puy!!

JImS,
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Some say that Morgon comes closest to Burgundy of Beaujolais Crus. Lapierre is a great discovery!

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stefan,

Good to hear!

I was actually in Bordeaux in September 2003, spending a few days at Ch. Nairac and experiencing the harvest.

I always believed in this vintage and laughed loudly at some comments like "too sweet, cloying and no acidity."

There are beauties now!

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Just forget Beaujolais Noveau, as Beaujolais wine area has much more to offer than short-lived mode flip wines, which are dirty stains on the quality of Beaujolais. Several producers in Beaujolais produce wines that challenge wines from the big brother, Burgundy. I was encouraged in August last year...

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In reply to Alex' post I have similar TNs of 2001 vintage. I'll admit that I rather disagree with several posters here about Lascombes. Yes, it tastes a bit light in problem vintages, but it's excellent in superb vintages like 2010, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019 and 2020. Imho, Lascombes is an elegant wine...

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I know that La Confession has applied for upgrading to CC, and I expect the upgrade to happen. Jean-Philippe Janoueix is doing great at his properties. I know also that Anabelle Cruse Bardinet from Corbin applied for an upgrade to PGCC "B". My bet is that she'll get it. Very consistent and...

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I mostly agree with AlexR: 1. La Lagune is an excellent value for money and, honestly, hasn't put a foot wrong since the 2014 vintage, which was the second vintage of cellarmaster Maylis de Laborderie, who left in January 2021, meaning the 2020 vintage was her last. I think she contributed significa...

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Bourgneuf!

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I can certify that 2009 wasn't a shipwreck, and I was not alone with my accolade as WOTN. 2009 is like a luxurious yacht.

Gilman is a provocateur, and I don't trust his TNs.

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My experience with 2010 Cos. Maybe it tastes differently today. I think Jean-Guillaume Prats waited too long with harvest and overdid maceration time. Tasted in May 2013. Black fruit en masse and alcohol (cherry vodka) are very evident on the nose and palate, compelling wine with fat fruit and tanni...

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Musigny 151,

Fair enough with your experiences concerning 2009.

But 40 years old 1982 - what a wine!

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It was a very interesting vertical because we tasted many unheralded vintages, which actually could be doomed to be much on the way down, uninteresting, or you name it. It wasn’t the case for all, and there were some genuine surprises. Out of 24 vintages of Cos on the menu that evening, I have never...

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Conor, Thanks for your feedback. I think I've been pretty critical. I received a couple of days ago a rather strange message from a winemaker on Right Bank complaining that I only wrote two lines about the wine. 🙄🤐 I don't normally write 20-30 lines of a poem when it is primeur, but it all depends i...

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I participated on Friday, the 17th June 2022 in a big vertical of this 2nd Growth in Copenhagen. We were 13 people. The wine menu was like that: Grand Vin - 1916-1926-1952-1953-1955-1973-1976-1977-1981-1982-1985-1986-1988-1995-1996-1998-2002-2006-2009-2011-2012-2014-2015-2017 Pagodes de Cos - 2009 w...

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Thanks for a kind post Musigny 151! I can't imagine how happy English tasters are for the low alcohol in 2021! I've seen many TNs from millions of wine critics and I will especially praise Jeff Leve's The Wine Cellar Insider for a great job. I agree almost 100% with him. I opted not to buy a single ...

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Here's my take on 2021 vintage with over 300 tasting notes. It's a very honest review, unbiased and not sponsored by anyone. It's very long but I hope the forum will enjoy reading it!

https://www.greatbordeauxwines.com/vint ... rom-barrel

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Dionysus,

I've not finished my report for 2021 yet. These 300+ TNs take an awful lot of time to write.

I can say that my rating concerning CHB will be similar to my wine colleagues' ratings.

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It's worth mentioning that L'Evangile changed its winemaking team last year, so new guys, actually a woman winemaker and a male technical director, made 2021. 2021 is scaled-down and not ageing in 100% new oak.

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CarlMagnus is a Fronsac wine.

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