Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:50 pm**

Comte Flaneur wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:37 pm You can actually drink 2005 Montrose now with great pleasure Joel. If you have three you can take one for a spin.

Château Haut-Brion 2016 Pessac-Léognan 1er Grand Cru Classé -
2 £600.00 £1,200.00

Thanks, Ian. I currently only have two but I have friend that wants to crack one of his so even better. I'm guessing a couple hours in decanter is in order?

Well done on the Haut Brion. Those should be great in 20 years. Or do you think they these newer vintages of Bordeaux will drink well younger?

I still need to backfill some and 2016 Mouton as well.

Posted: **Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:51 pm**

Blanquito wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:38 pm Burgundy blitz...
2012 Pierre Bourée Fils Charmes-Chambertin X 3
2012 Joseph Roty Gevrey-Chambertin Clos Prieur Bas X 1
2014 Arlaud Morey-Saint-Denis 1er Cru "Aux Cheseaux X 1

and a Burgundian Spanish wine...
2009 López de Heredia Viña Bosconia Reserva Rioja X 4

Good to see you made it home alive to buy more wine after that amazing trip. Betting you took at least a few days off to let your liver recover!

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:50 am**

I didn’t touch a drink for 5 days! Getting a bad cold made that easier. We burned the candle at both ends a little.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:38 pm**

OrlandoRobert wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:30 pm
Nicklasss wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:57 pm
jckba wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 12:40 pm Who said only bad things happen when you Wine-Searcher pro as I found these listed at a store in Westport, CT for $229.99/per which is well below market and bit the bullet as the opportunities to buy an OWC 6pack of Rougeard Les Poyeux are few and far between.

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Seems like a nice shot. But i never tried a Clos Rougeard and always question myself if i should try to get some. As fabulous as they say?

Lately, i'm looking for Bourgogne wines, especially red. My inventory is too low, but geez Bourgogne are now so expensive...
Dude, do it!

It’s the d’Yquem of Loire! The DRC, the Petrus, et al.

It’s awesome.

I do agree with Orlando here and think that Rougeard comfortably sits at the top of the Loire Valley Cabernet Franc hierarchy but with the caveat that you have to give them time for the oak to integrate kind of like a classified Bdx. I tend to pick up a spicier oak note verging on American oak kind of aromatics when young, the 08, 09 and 10 Les Poyeux all show this to varying degrees at present and if I want that I will buy a current vintage of LRA Alberdi or Ardanza for a fraction of the cost.

With that said, mid summer I got together with a bunch of friends in NYC and we did a Rougeard vs Baudry showdown and while there were a number of flights I will highlight the 2005 flight which included the Rougeard Les Poyeux that was pitted up against the Baudry La Croix Boissee and Les Grezeaux. And much to my surprise, the under $20 on release Les Grez was in the zone and blew the other 2 wines off the table.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:34 pm**

Felettig Beaune 1er cru Champs-Pimonts 2019 X 1
Felettig Chambolle-Musigny "Clos le Village" 2018 X 1
Felettig Chambolle-Musigny 1er cru Gruenchers 2019 X 3
Felettig Chambolle-Musigny Vieilles Vignes 2019 X 1

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:38 pm**

jckba wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:38 pm
OrlandoRobert wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:30 pm
Nicklasss wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:57 pm

Seems like a nice shot. But i never tried a Clos Rougeard and always question myself if i should try to get some. As fabulous as they say?

Lately, i'm looking for Bourgogne wines, especially red. My inventory is too low, but geez Bourgogne are now so expensive...
Dude, do it!

It’s the d’Yquem of Loire! The DRC, the Petrus, et al.

It’s awesome.
I do agree with Orlando here and think that Rougeard comfortably sits at the top of the Loire Valley Cabernet Franc hierarchy but with the caveat that you have to give them time for the oak to integrate kind of like a classified Bdx. I tend to pick up a spicier oak note verging on American oak kind of aromatics when young, the 08, 09 and 10 Les Poyeux all show this to varying degrees at present and if I want that I will buy a current vintage of LRA Alberdi or Ardanza for a fraction of the cost.

With that said, mid summer I got together with a bunch of friends in NYC and we did a Rougeard vs Baudry showdown and while there were a number of flights I will highlight the 2005 flight which included the Rougeard Les Poyeux that was pitted up against the Baudry La Croix Boissee and Les Grezeaux. And much to my surprise, the under $20 on release Les Grez was in the zone and blew the other 2 wines off the table.

Would love to have tried those three side-by-side, though I have had each of them more than once. The Les Grez is fantastic. I do not think it is at the level of the Rougeard, but damn what a wine. I recall reading a quite from Matthieu Baudry, something I concur with, than in classic years, Les Grez can turn out his best wine. I have generally avoided the ripe 2018 vintage, but this is a strong wine for that vintage.

Posted: **Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:57 pm**

3 x 2005 Montrose

Amazing to me that you can still buy this incredible wine for roughly the same price as the 2016 and not much off the 2018. No-brainer to me.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:11 pm**

And four more cases of the 2017 Antoine Sanzay Les Poyeux as thinking is not required when it comes to these, you just need to take when offered.

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:33 pm**

jckba wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:11 pm And four more cases of the 2017 Antoine Sanzay Les Poyeux as thinking is not required when it comes to these, you just need to take when offered.

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Wow!!!!

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:18 pm**

JC doesn’t mess around!

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:28 pm**

Blanquito wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 4:34 pm Felettig Beaune 1er cru Champs-Pimonts 2019 X 1
Felettig Chambolle-Musigny "Clos le Village" 2018 X 1
Felettig Chambolle-Musigny 1er cru Gruenchers 2019 X 3
Felettig Chambolle-Musigny Vieilles Vignes 2019 X 1

Posted: **Sun Nov 07, 2021 3:30 pm**

And jckba, with you only, Loire wine economy can pass through any crash i guess!

Posted: **Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:47 pm**

JimHow wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:21 pm Excellent, they are long overdue for a sale that allows purchase of Bordeaux!

I'm not sure what's available up your way but near me the Brdx pickings for 2016 are getting pretty slim. Also, it appears that most of the 2018 classified growths have not shown up yet.

Posted: **Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:32 pm**

Been buying wine accessories

In love with these https://www.studiobrillantine.com/blog/ ... ign-lover/ Any more suggestions to improve my wine experience?

Posted: **Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:32 pm**

designyyz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:32 pm Been buying wine accessories In love with these https://www.studiobrillantine.com/blog/ ... ign-lover/ Any more suggestions to improve my wine experience?

I have almost everything I want to fully appreciate my experience. The only accessory that I sometimes want but don't have is a Durand.

Maybe I'll get one for Christmas.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:32 am**

2007 Billecart-Salmon "Cuvée Louis" Brut Blanc de Blancs Champagne X 6

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:07 pm**

designyyz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:32 pm Been buying wine accessories In love with these https://www.studiobrillantine.com/blog/ ... ign-lover/ Any more suggestions to improve my wine experience?

Regarding the merchandise you’re advertising, want to share your thoughts on a favorite or two, and what makes them special? Any chance you designed some of it, designyzz? Would be interesting to read about your process if you’re interested in sharing, like Chris did with his artisan wine racks.

My recommendation for improving your experience:
- Buy wine.
- Open bottle.
- Pour into glass.
- Drink wine.
- Post impressions here.
- Share opinions with others.

Posted: **Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:04 pm**

The 2016 Pian Dell’Orino BdM ‘Vigneti del Versante’ arrived this week in the Polaner warehouse and now a case rests comfortably in my cellar.

Posted: **Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:18 am**

On NH closeout picked up

4- 2016 Ch Gruaud-Larose $65/btl

Posted: **Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:29 am**

That's a good one Gerry.

Posted: **Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:04 am**

Gerry M. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:18 am On NH closeout picked up

4- 2016 Ch Gruaud-Larose $65/btl

Wow. A steal!

Posted: **Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:06 am**

Gerry M. wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:18 am On NH closeout picked up

4- 2016 Ch Gruaud-Larose $65/btl

Very good one. Not that type of offer here but picked:

3 bottles 2016 Barbi Brunello di Montalcino
1 bottle 2016 Carpineto Vino Nobile di Montalcino
2 bottles 2019 Domaine la Grenaudière La Grenouille Muscadet Sèvre-et-Maine sur lie.

Posted: **Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:56 pm**

Just got 3 bottles of 2018 Prieure-Lichine for 39/per at local trader joes.... Not exactly a deal, but just wanted to try anyway...

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:04 pm**

3 x 2017 Benetiere Cote Rotie

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:30 pm**

Another NH closeout. I know Motz isn't a big fan. based on his CT tasting note, but I couldn't resist the price.

5- 2016 Ch Lafon-Rochet $42/btl.

Question, how much 16' Ch Phelan Segur should I get at $40, if any? I don't need it since I have plenty of other 16' Saint Estephe's but the pricing appears too good. Has anyone tried it?

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:58 pm**

OrlandoRobert wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:04 pm 3 x 2017 Benetiere Cote Rotie

Man, have the prices for these gone crazy. I blame you (and Fu)!

At least Levet can still be had for reasonable coin. To wit:
3 x 2018 Levet Chavaroche ($60)

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:03 pm**

Blanquito wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:58 pm
OrlandoRobert wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:04 pm 3 x 2017 Benetiere Cote Rotie
Man, have the prices for these gone crazy. I blame you (and Fu)!

At least Levet can still be had for reasonable coin. To wit:
3 x 2018 Levet Chavaroche ($60)

I won’t tell you how cheaply I still get my Gonon….

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:55 pm**

Gerry M. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:30 pm Another NH closeout. I know Motz isn't a big fan. based on his CT tasting note, but I couldn't resist the price.

5- 2016 Ch Lafon-Rochet $42/btl.

Question, how much 16' Ch Phelan Segur should I get at $40, if any? I don't need it since I have plenty of other 16' Saint Estephe's but the pricing appears too good. Has anyone tried it?

Hi Gerry. I don't know for the 2016 Chateau Phelan Segur, but i have tasted the 2015 and 2017 and both are great. So i guess a 3 pack of 2016 won't hurt....

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:19 pm**

Levet vs Gonon? I would take Levet even at the same price, but before the prices when insane (for the rest of us at least!) I was a big fan of Gonon.

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:28 pm**

Blanquito wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:19 pm Levet vs Gonon? I would take Levet even at the same price, but before the prices when insane (for the rest of us at least!) I was a big fan of Gonon.

Agreed, Levet is definitely more distinctive.

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:07 pm**

2019 Rauzan Segla. A friend whose palate I trust told me it was the pick of the London UGC tasting.

Posted: **Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:35 pm**

Gerry M. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:30 pm Question, how much 16' Ch Phelan Segur should I get at $40, if any? I don't need it since I have plenty of other 16' Saint Estephe's but the pricing appears too good. Has anyone tried it?

I tried the 16 at a tasting a couple of years back and rated it highly. Very traditional profile and a great option given its price. Hope that helps.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:55 pm**

Musigny 151 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:07 pm 2019 Rauzan Segla. A friend whose palate I trust told me it was the pick of the London UGC tasting.

I couldn’t go to that but that is what I heard too regarding RS. Brane Cantenac was also reported to have been extra special too, something you could not say about the 2020.

Jim hope you don’t mind me posting this link: https://wine-pages.com/community/index. ... age.11895/

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:43 pm**

$79 for 2019 Rausan Segla on futures at Zachys sounds like a good price, no?

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:35 pm**

JimHow wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:43 pm $79 for 2019 Rausan Segla on futures at Zachys sounds like a good price, no?

I've been considering doing this on Wine.com instead. Since same price, and I have free shipping. Plus there are some cash backs that can get you under $70.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:24 pm**

Thanks for the tip Joel I'll check it out.

Posted: **Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:26 pm**

3 x 2016 Brunello Argiano
3 x 2019 Niellon Chassagne Montrachet Clos St. Jean
1 x 2016 St. Innocent Freedom Hill
9 x 2017 St. Innocent Momtazi
1 x 2017 St. Innocent Shea
1 x 2017 St. Innocent Temperance Hill

Posted: **Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:08 am**

JimHow wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:24 pm Thanks for the tip Joel I'll check it out.

No worries, also no sales tax shipped to NH. Totally worth paying the $50 a year for stewardship free shipping with wine.com. Happy to give you a few tips, theres also a thread on your least favorite wine website about it with all sorts of discount codes.

Nice buy on those Niellon 2019 Clos St Jean btw. Marcus opened a 2014 for us this summer. It really sang at first, then closed down the rest of the night. However, the last glass on the 2nd day was amazing.

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:14 am**

1998 Figeac x 3

Just won this lot at auction, was hoping someone would outbid before the end as I got a little carried away with my top bid.

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:15 am**

Folks
The e-commerce merchants here now have endless sales and give lots of coupons, discounts, card promotions et al with some regularity.
One platform offered case loads of Champagne from a small producer - De Villandry - which is not in the same league as the grands marques but not bad at all.
So Wendy saw the price at SGD47 a CASE (6) when it is likely that they meant a bottle. On top of that, she used various discounts and got it for about SGD38. That is about USD28 or around E23.
Now the taxes here alone would be much more than that, so it was a coup and she took 5 cases after which the price was returned to a bottle price.
Not sure how much they sold at that price but I have a feeling somebody lost a lot on the deal.
The wine was delivered the following day.

Cheers
Mark

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