When President Obama is re-elected!!

Houndsong · Post by **Houndsong** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:47 am

I haven't been paying attention much here or elsewhere so pardon me if it's been noted that Paul Ryan bears a certain resemblance to Eddie Munster.

I also get Ron Paul, Rand Paul, RuPaul, Paul Ryan, and Ayn Rand confused.

JScott · Post by **JScott** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:48 am

Who is the "mystery speaker?" I'm hearing speculation about Clint Eastwood. No offense to the man, but are you effing kidding me??

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:51 am

Yes! That's IT! I was wondering where that hairline came from.... It's Eddie Munster!

Yes, Scott, the word is that 102-year-old Clint Eastwood will be the surprise guest tomorrow night, to energize the convention.

Remember that movie "Every Which Way But Loose?" I think my brothers annd I watched that movie about 30 times after we got HBO for the first time back in the 80s.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:52 am

You know he ended up dating that blonde girl from the movie in real life, what was her name again, what ever happened to her?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:56 am

Saw a Jeb Bush interview on ABC tonight. Man, I'm impressed with that guy every time I hear him speak.

JScott · Post by **JScott** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:58 am

Sondra Locke

Houndsong · Post by **Houndsong** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:00 am

Interesting. There were two Marilyns. Beverly Owen (1) and Pat Priest (2). I think we are thinking of Pat Priest. She was born in Bountiful, Utah. Guess she's voting for Romney then. Amazing how the circle closes upon itself.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:01 am

Flat start for Portman...

Houndsong · Post by **Houndsong** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:02 am

Sondra Locke is going to channel Clint Eastwood?

JScott · Post by **JScott** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:02 am

And I think they ultimately had an ugly split. Quelle surprise.

Houndsong · Post by **Houndsong** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:03 am

They have the wrong Portman. Natalie would be better.

JScott · Post by **JScott** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:03 am

JimHow wrote:Flat start for Portman...

This is why he's not the running mate....

JScott · Post by **JScott** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:04 am

Houndsong wrote:They have the wrong Portman. Natalie would be better.

lol

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:07 am

Ah yes, Sondra Locke, she was a looker, I'm remembering her in that full-length outfit out in the parking lot when he realizes she was stringing him along, the big lug, in "Every Which Way But Loose."

Good grief is this guy boring!

I saw him on CSPAN a couple weeks ago, he was much more effective then....

My goodness, sporadic, weak applause.... Now, SILENCE in the auditorium....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:08 am

Omg this speech is Chinese torture!

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:09 am

"Folks, we cannot afford four more years.... How about NO more years?"

Okay, okay, not bad.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:10 am

I think Portman is single handedly losing Ohio for Mitt Romney....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:23 am

This is the greatest speech I've ever heard in my life:

This is just a partial clip:

http://youtu.be/kOdIqKsv624

Here is the whole speech, without video:

http://youtu.be/FQGKdD8OViQ

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:32 am

Tim Pawlenty: "But you know, President Obama isn't as bad as people say.... He's worse!"

<rolls eyes>

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:30 am

Eddie Munster takes the stage:

Five minutes in... Still early yet but so far... He's no Sarah Palin....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:51 am

Not a bad speech, but Palin's was better.
I can see how the base would like it, I don't know how much it will sway the middle.
Trying to put my finger on the problem:
Is he too young?
Is he too know it all?
He's not really that good looking, I would think the ladies would think the president is sexier.
Overall, I guess I'd give him a B, although I could see where Sean Hannity might give him an A.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:05 am

I thought that was a nasty speech.

I thought the ladies stole the show tonight, Condi Rice and the New Mexico governor.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:12 pm

We watched an episode of Breaking Bad in preference to viewing Condi but did catch much of the kid VP's speech. I thought his attack on Obama was pretty good. His joke about Mitt's taste in music was funny and useful for the humanization of the candidate. On the other hand, Ryan said nothing of substance on what Romney would do beyond repealing RomBamaCare and holding federal expenditures to 20% of GDP (with no explanation of how).

That Ryan looks to be around 22 and his wife 16 may not be a plus.

Mitt needs to give a great speech.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:03 pm

I think Ryan looks like a Boy Scout. I agree he effectively attacked Obama, he may move the polls a point or two for Romney with the undecideds, but I don't think his speech will have the same impact as Palin's did. Then again, I'm sure he'll survive those Katie Couric type interviews a lot better going forward. Palin's convention speech four years ago was politically brilliant, in both its content and delivery. It was what followed that helped to do in a campaign that was going to lose anyway.

Jay Winton · Post by **Jay Winton** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:35 pm

Ryan minscontrued a lot of facts and Rice was never the SOS Clinton has been. Romney better deliver the speech of his life tonight or he won't get the usual post convention bump. Also, the difference in response to Isaac compares to Katrina is striking. Kudos to FEMA and the Obama administration-not that LA or the rest of the south will vote for him. Well, maybe VA and possibly FL though I'm doubtful.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:47 pm

And so the big night....
I'm actually looking forward to the Jeb Bush speech, I've become a fan.

JScott · Post by **JScott** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:58 pm

It really does look like Jeb is the cream of the crop in that clan. {Insert disclaimer about bar height, etc.}

JScott · Post by **JScott** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:05 am

Funny, have to tell you, I see a wide cross section of people in my work - all walks, all income levels, backgrounds, etc. Lots of people coming through today telling me never in their life did they hear such a lineup of fabulous speeches, one better than the next. Completely unscientific, of course, as I don't poll for political persuasion, but clearly they're hitting some target with this production, even if it's just hardcore base.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:06 am

Oh I think yesterday they scored pretty good. The night before was weak.

Here's Jeb....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:21 am

I just don't think education is an issue that gets the population riled up.
To me, it doesn't matter if you're pro union, or for vouchers, or charter schools, or home schooling....
It all comes back to family. If your parents push you and stay on top of your education and have you read, read, read, the kid will be more likely to succeed. When I went to Catholic grade school we had one nun teaching us 6 or 7 classes a day, with 45 kids in the classroom. And we had some of the most successful classmates.
Education is not about politicians.

That was a mediocre speech by Jeb, nothing special. I do like him though, he's a humble guy.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:31 am

So far, the Republicans who have advanced their cause for 2016 if Obama is re-elected:

Paul Ryan
Condi Rice
The New Mexico Governor
Jeb Bush

Big losers so far:

Chris Christie
Rob Portman

Will young Marco seize the moment?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:51 am

Watching Palin on Hannity right now.

God, I love this woman....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:52 am

Mitt Romney is about to have the biggest moment of his life, and Fox News is broadcasting Sarah Palin.

This lady is certifiable.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:07 am

Clint Eastwood walking the knife's edge between endearing and pathetic....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:10 am

I think they need to have one of those big hooks from off the side of the stage....

Now he's joking about lawyers....

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:19 am

Wow, Marco is doing really good!

He seems more likeable to me than Ryan.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:20 am

Marco's really got his timing down, he's on! My goodness, is Romney going to be a letdown after this guy?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:21 am

I think Romey picked the wrong guy! He should have went with Rubio.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:22 am

Imagine Ryan-Rubio or Rubio-Ryan '16.

Wow!

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:24 am

Wow, there are a lot of Republicans out there saying, gulp, we nominated the wrong guy!

A new star is born tonight!

Kennedyesque!