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I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:57 pm
by JimHow
I'll give you 20 questions.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:58 pm
by JimHow
A bottle of the wine to the winner, if any, which by itself should give you a subtle hint.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:01 am
by JimHow
By the way, the questions can only elicit YES or NO answers.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:22 am
by Chateau Vin
How many guesses each person gets?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:23 am
by Tom In DC
Left Bank?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:25 am
by JimHow
This is not a question within the rules, but I will nonetheless re-phrase it as Question #1 to get the party started.
Question #1:
Do BWEers get more than one question each?
Answer: Yes.
Yes or No Questions remaining: 19.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:26 am
by JimHow
Question #2:
Is this a wine of the Left Bank?
Answer: Yes.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:31 am
by Harry C.
Is it from Pessac/Leognan region?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:33 am
by JimHow
Question #3
Is it from Pessac/Leognan region?
Answer: No.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:34 am
by Chateau Vin
Did you have this exact wine before?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:36 am
by JimHow
Question #4:
Did you have this exact wine before?
Answer: No.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:37 am
by Chateau Vin
Is this a growth property?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:40 am
by JimHow
Question #5:
Is this a growth property?
Answer: No.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:54 am
by Ianjaig
JimHow wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:40 am
Question #5:
Is this a growth property?
Answer: No.
Lilian Ladouys?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:07 am
by Harry C.
Is it a Chateau that has been a favorite in past vintages for you?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:31 am
by JimHow
Question #6: Is it Lilian Ladouys?
Answer: No.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:32 am
by JimHow
Question #7:
Is it a Chateau that has been a favorite in past vintages for you?
Answer: Yes.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:33 am
by jckba
Is the estate in question a previous BWE WOTY winner?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:35 am
by JimHow
Question 8:
Is the estate in question a previous BWE WOTY winner?
Answer: Yes
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:37 am
by jckba
Is it the 2018 Sociando Mallet?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:39 am
by JimHow
Question #9:
Is it the 2018 Sociando Mallet?
Answer: No.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:41 am
by jckba
Is it the 2018 Cantemerle?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:46 am
by JimHow
Ha, you are good!
This wine is lovely!
It is nothing like the other 2018s I've had.
And I'm not here to criticize the 2018s.
I just found this Cantemerle light on its feet, smooth, medium bodied, and "only" 13.5% alcohol.
Very lovely and velvety, young but definitively Margaux/Haut Medoc.
Quite an aberration from the big, hot, wild-ride 2018s I've had so far.
Very lovely, one of the better Cantemerles I've enjoyed in recent years. Very understated, smooth....
93 points.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:48 am
by jckba
Is there anything better than wine trivia?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:49 am
by JimHow
Ha... well done indeed!
Definitely gonna pick up a few more bottles of this stuff.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:50 am
by Chateau Vin
JimHow wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:46 am
Ha, you are good!
This wine is lovely!
It is nothing like the other 2018s I've had.
And I'm not here to criticize the 2018s.
I just found this Cantemerle light on its feet, smooth, medium bodied, and "only" 13.5% alcohol.
Very lovely and velvety, young but definitively Margaux/Haut Medoc.
Quite an aberration from the big, hot, wild-ride 2018s I've had so far.
Very lovely, one of the better Cantemerles I've enjoyed in recent years. Very understated, smooth....
93 points.
But you said it’s not a growth property...
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:51 am
by JimHow
Oh shoot did I get that wrong
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:53 am
by Nicklasss
Chateau Vin has a point!
I know i bought some Cantemerle, but can't remember if it the 2019 or 2020. Seems like i should have bought 2018...
The 2003 Cantemerle i had were quite good too, at only 12.5 % alcohol, in that warm unusual vintage.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:55 am
by JimHow
This wine was incredibly reserved vis a vis the vintage, Nicola, I would never have guessed it to be a 2018.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:01 am
by JimHow
Almost Burgundian.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:04 am
by JimHow
Cantemerle ranks 46th out of 56 wines in my reclassification of the wines of the Medoc, between Malartic Lagraviere and Chasse Spleen. It proudly acquits itself as a solid fifth growth in 2018.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:25 am
by JimHow
I note this wine gets high marks on cellar tracker for its light, medium-bodied, non-alcoholic style. A lot of 93 point scores there. Two enthusiastic thumbs up, a very pleasant surprise! Very different from recent vintages of Canemerle, very different from other 2018s... in a good way.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:15 am
by Racer Chris
Saratoga has magnums for $80. I may put one in my next order from them.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:13 pm
by JimHow
I wonder if somebody can find GBF’s review of the 2018 Cantemerle for me.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:54 pm
by Nicklasss
In bottle tasting from GBF:
Cantemerle CC - 67% Cabernet Sauvignon, 20% Merlot, 7% Cabernet Franc and 6% Petit Verdot. Quite a seductive nose of blackcurrants, exquisite and stylish. For me, it was a bit light on the palate and lacked some more depth and length. 89-90p.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:05 am
by JimHow
Thanks for posting, Nicola. Very interesting note from GBF. For me, the lightness on the palate in 2018 was a positive, not a negative. I thought it was lovely, feminine, charming. Nuanced. Much closer to 93 points, or more, than the Burghound-like dungeon of 89-90.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:07 am
by JimHow
I would indeed think this would seem light in a wide ranging tasting if 2018s. This is why it is best to actually drink and analyze these wines.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:52 pm
by Dandersson
Jim, do you prefer the 2018 over the 2016 Cantemerle?
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:55 pm
by JimHow
Yes. It seems like a very different styled Cantemerle.
I like the 2016 as well. 2010 is my favorite Cantemerle ever.
I'm a fan of Cantemerle in general, and I like this toned down version from 2018.
Very different than other 2018s.
Re: I just tasted my favorite 2018 so far, can you guess it?
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:06 pm
by Dandersson
I am a big fan of Cantemerle too, I will have to fit in a 2018 in my reduced buying.