When are the 2019s hitting the shelves?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:11 am

It seems to be late this year.
Nothing to speak of at my usual suspects, New Hampshire, Zachys, MacArthur's etc., etc.

Dandersson · Post by **Dandersson** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:40 am

Already available at winedotcom and saratoga.
Some seems to be coming in at MacArthur's.
Have had Lilian Ladouys, Ormes de pez, and Phelan Segur already.

Musigny 151 · Post by **Musigny 151** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:56 am

Cribs and drabs. Most though will be here in late fall

Chateau Vin · Post by **Chateau Vin** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:03 am

I saw Dauzac at Costco the other day (for 49 bucks iirc...)

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:31 am

I just got most of my futures orders in from Total Wine Concierge. The last couple bottles of La Conseillante should come soon as well.

Musigny 151 · Post by **Musigny 151** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:59 am

My uk wines have arrived. Sporadic here

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:03 pm

I got notice that my Ch Talbot arrived at TW but still waiting for several others.

Claudius2 · Post by **Claudius2** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 3:39 pm

Guys
Funny my EP buys turned up a few months ago and I’m getting spammed with endless offers for retail stock.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:40 pm

That’s because we’re a third world banana republic country over here Claudius.

Comte Flaneur · Post by **Comte Flaneur** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:30 pm

Talking of banana republics - we have tropical weather, a great (albeit women’s) soccer team, double digit inflation (which you guys across the pond can’t boast) and a sinking currency.

My 2019s are starting to trickle in, arriving sporadically, but most do not seem to have arrived yet.

Nicklasss · Post by **Nicklasss** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:05 pm

My EP buy were supposed to be delivered this early September. Has been reported to March 2023. Banana republic you say Jim.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:15 pm

Roger Doucet singing Oh Canada at the Montreal Forum...

Does it get any better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IQQwWNuvc

Ambrose · Post by **Ambrose** » Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:01 am

42 out of 48 of my 2019’s arrived today: a long journey indeed. Waiting on some Canon and SHL (bought through a different company.

Pretty excited to have a tiny look at some of the unclassified stuff & bury the rest to drink when I’m 50 - 60+ years old.

dstgolf · Post by **dstgolf** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:26 pm

Nic,

Just got notice from LCBO that all 10 cases of my futures order have arrived in Toronto. I paid off the balance and they should be here in about 1-2 weeks. Late but better than March. I just hope they haven't been sitting in some hot loading dock somewhere like some of the 2005's that came to Ontario. I had 6 Pavie Macquin from Ontario and rendered 6 by mistake from Quebec and the Ontario bottles were all cooked. Many complaints about that and nothing done. They've really tightened their return policy sighting too much fraud. With the original bill of sale they still take the stuff back with reluctance and give a credit.

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:14 pm

I just got billed the other 50% from Total Wine, which means the rest of my 2019 EP wine is on its way to my local store for pickup.

barsacpinci · Post by **barsacpinci** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:54 pm

I picked mine up from Bassins a month ago (Lafite, Mouton, Ausone, Giscours, Pontet) and today I picked up a lot from Total Wine (halves of leovilles, cos and others). Have yet to hear from Wine Cellarage or Wally’s .

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:46 pm

MacArthur sent an email today saying mine were all in.
Got a similar notice from Total Wine a week ago.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:05 am

Hmmm did you get Conseillante from Bassins Dave.

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:30 am

The La Conseillante's are the only ones I'm waiting on currently from Total Wine. Supposedly they are at the warehouse though. Everything else has been delivered.

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:04 pm

JimHow wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:05 am Hmmm did you get Conseillante from Bassins Dave.

Yes, and they're in.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:07 pm

Hmm. Wonder why I didn’t get notice.

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Fri Sep 02, 2022 1:11 pm

When did you order it? I bought in June 2020. Maybe there is still some on its way. Or they havent got through the list yet. Give them a call.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:15 pm

I ordered mine in March 2021, David, I'll give them a call.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sat Sep 03, 2022 4:03 pm

MacArthur's got in a small allocation of 2019 La Conseillante, the rest are coming in October/November.

Dandersson · Post by **Dandersson** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:04 am

Actually, not so impressed with the 2019 so far. Any one else having tried them yet? Of course I could be wrong, but not impressed.

Ambrose · Post by **Ambrose** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:36 am

What have you tried so far?

Dandersson · Post by **Dandersson** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:44 am

Phelan Segur, Lynch Moussas, Grand Puy Ducasse, Haut Bages Liberal, Ormes de Pez, Lilian Ladouys, Branaire, Pedesclaux, Pierre de montignac.

Dandersson · Post by **Dandersson** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:53 am

Compared to 18, I feel they have less power, and the alcohol even though less, is some times more evident. Just my thoughts.

Dandersson · Post by **Dandersson** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 2:05 am

There are in my opinion some good wines. Grand Puy Ducasse , Haut Bages Liberal, Ormes de Pez, Lilian Ladouys, Pedesclaux, Pierre de montignac.
But if high EtOH is an issues look at the great 2016/2014.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:37 am

I have yet to lay eyes on a single 2019.

Ambrose · Post by **Ambrose** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:58 am

Good sample size there Dandersson and interesting points. Keith Levenberg doesn’t seem overly enamoured with them either, only 92/100 for Montrose the other day.

Dandersson · Post by **Dandersson** » Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:54 pm

I might order a couple more to try, really like the price of the 2019, affordable even for me.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:52 pm

Zzzzzzzzzzz.

Dionysus · Post by **Dionysus** » Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:58 pm

Dandersson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:53 am Compared to 18, I feel they have less power, and the alcohol even though less, is some times more evident. Just my thoughts.

That's interesting Dan...I went deep on 2019, mainly due to pricing and perceived quality, but now I'm not so sure. I see a lot of notes pointing to the "lower" ABV, but it appears more evident by all accounts (versus 2018 and 2020).

Can anyone explain the mechanics of that? Why a lower ABV might come across as more "hot"? i.e. an ABV of 14.0% in 2019 seems "hotter" than a 14.5% in 2018 or 2020?

Ianjaig · Post by **Ianjaig** » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:22 am

The 19s have all arrived over here. Most retailers are allocating them out now and I picked up some today. Phelan Segur, Saint Pierre, Marquis De Calon (Edit: Le Marquis De Calon Segur), Lafon Rochet…

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:10 am

I hear Marquis de Calon is supposed to be good.
I think they have some in New Hampshire.

Ambrose · Post by **Ambrose** » Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:19 am

So far I’ve looked at La Lagune (black fruited / fruit very restrained / tastes like a 20 year wine, silly to drink now)
& Belle-vue (way more up front fruit, awesome quaffing with red meat)

How’s everyone else going?

DavidG · Post by **DavidG** » Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:53 pm

My 2019s are all in but the only one I’ve popped, ITNOS of course, is:

Tour St Christophe: Popped one early. Dark purple, almost black. Cherry, dark berry nose, medium body, ripe fruit, decent balance, medium finish, hard to get a sense of place but it’s so young.

I don’t think I’ve ever had a Tour St. Christophe of any vintage. Unless I tried one at a recent BWE Convention, in which case it didn’t make enough of an impression to stick. Took a flyer on a 6-pack to see what the buzz was all about. It was a very good wine, especially for the price. It didn’t speak to me of Bordeaux, not now anyway. I’m not very good at seeing the future of baby wines. It seemed a bit simple. I won’t be excited by it nor will I be disappointed if it doesn’t evolve. If it does develop a Bordeaux-ish complexity I’ll be thrilled. The trick will be to hang on long enough to give them a chance. This could be an easy quaffing short-termer given the low price.

Gerry M. · Post by **Gerry M.** » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:48 am

So far the only 2019's I've seen so far in NH are Les Ormes de Pez, Latour Martillac and Le Marquis de Calon Segur. Any early impressions on the Latour Martillac?

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:51 am

Same here, Gerry, plus Kirwan and du Tertre.
They've gotta be coming soon....