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Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:27 pm
by JimHow
Has this just been a label change or is this a different wine?

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:28 pm
by JimHow
Also, I think I have seen some good ratings for this wine, no?
Also, is the considered the second wine of Calon Segur?

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:56 pm
by Dionysus
JimHow wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 1:27 pm Has this just been a label change or is this a different wine?
Same wine Jim...name was changed from Marquis de Calon (2012 last vintage) to Le Marquis de Calon Segur (2013 vintage). The estate refers to it as their Second Wine, but I understand that the majority comes from the same plot's year after year. Since the 2014 vintage, ratings are generally within the 90–92-point range.

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 2:24 pm
by Racer Chris
I've enjoyed a few bottles of the 2016, with one left in my cellar.

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:19 pm
by JimHow
Thanks RC, just bought 4 bottles, my first 2019 in hand purchase!

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:40 pm
by Gerry M.
I have the 16' and was impressed how good it was. I did see the 19' at the local NH store but now the inventory says it's gone 😪

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:46 pm
by JimHow
There’s still about 40 in the system, Gerry, go to the other list.

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:01 pm
by AKR
Currently called 'Le Marquis de Calon Segur'.

http://www.bordeauxwineenthusiasts.com/ ... 39#p104039

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:31 pm
by JimHow
My first 2019s!

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:52 pm
by Ianjaig
Nice one, Jim!

Count me as a fan.

They also have a third wine now I believe, "Saint-Estèphe de Calon-Ségur" - just to confuse things further.

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:53 pm
by JoelD
What’s the abv on those, Jim?

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:54 pm
by JimHow
Wow, 15%!

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:05 pm
by Ianjaig
Thats a worry.

Just looked at my other bottles and they are mostly 14%.

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 7:23 pm
by JimHow
I'll try one after my fast is over IJ. I see Jeff Leve likes it.

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 8:03 pm
by JoelD
Yeah, I stayed away from the 2018 and 2019 Calon and capbern so far because of those high abv. Sad because they are some of the best for their price points in 2014 and 2016. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong but I worry

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:55 pm
by Gerry M.
JimHow wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:31 pmMy first 2019s!
Jim, I finally made it to the NH store and followed your lead and buying four bottles.

I would have bought more but the 15% made me hesitate. I've been paying more attention to alcohol levels over the last couple of years and they are rising across the board. Climate change is real and we are only at the early stages of its' impact on the prime growing regions. I might focus more on backfilling older vintages with lower alc and higher acid while dropping my cellar temp just to ensure covering my needs to the end of the road lol.

Re: Is there a difference between Le Marquis de Calon Segur and Marquis de Calon?

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 6:22 pm
by JimHow
Nicely done Gerry. Hoping that a 15% off opportunity comes soon, I have a purchase in mind.