2020s at Discount

[PghMike]

So if I could pick up 2020 futures bottles of Margaux and Mouton for 500 or less, should I pull the trigger? Could get Ducru and Conseillante at around 170 each as well.

Still in build mode at 38 yrs old.

Only dabbled in 2020s so far with a few Canon, Les Carmes, Chevalier...

[Blanquito]

I’m probably the wrong person to chime in given how mature I like my claret, but I’d say pass. The 2020 vintage is likely to be epic based on the few barrel samples I’ve tried BUT it sure looks like a vintage that will need 30 years.

For that money, you can buy at auction mature or close to mature First Growths from terrific vintages.

[Blanquito]

A few examples:

1995 Haut Brion
https://m.klwines.com/Auction/BidDetail/1650069
1998 Haut Brion
https://m.klwines.com/Auction/BidDetail/1650319

[stefan]

I say buy, but include some quality but less expensive wines that that mature earlier (D'Armailhac, Issan, ...). If you have variable temperature, store them at 62-65F and try one of the earlier maturing ones at age 15. Move all to cold storage when they begin to taste mature. You will have great wines to drink from your late fifties into your seventies and will marvel at how cheap they were.

[DavidG]

Another thumbs up here. At age 38, you’ll be around to enjoy these. Who knows if they’ll cost more adjusted for inflation in 20 years, but my guess is the first growths will. There’s also some intangible value in knowing you have them. If it were me, I’d buy them now.

[Blanquito]

WARNING LABEL: Wine may take up too much of your time and money; BWE will always advise buying

[Comte Flaneur]

Buy buy buy. My age equivalent is the 1999 vintage and I bought well over 150 bottles of the 2019 vintage, and even a few 2020s…your wine buying days are surely more ahead of you rather than behind you Mike.

[JimHow]

Buy like the wind.

[DavidG]

Buying Wine Enablement

[jckba]

Lol.

[jal]

See:

http://www.bordeauxwineenthusiasts.com/ ... f=4&t=9849

[Claudius2]

Mike
If you are only 38 then not to worry.
Many of us here have decades on you and I still bought quite a lot of 2019s.
Currently I have enough wine to last 10 years even if I don’t buy any more. Oh well.
Cheers
Mark

[PghMike]

Helpful all - though probably not to the pocket book. I struggle to pass up opportunities for $200 less than current US market and it looks like I won't again. I jumped in pretty deeply to 2019 but not for the first growths and I have been kicking myself for that since. I at least picked up 6 each of VCC, Ducru Beaucaillou and Figeac.

Confirming a few things and likely going to grab at least a bottle of each of 2020 VCC, Lafite, Mouton and Margaux.

[Jeff Leve]

The 2020 vintage is likely to be epic based on the few barrel samples I’ve tried BUT it sure looks like a vintage that will need 30 years.
For that money, you can buy at auction mature or close to mature First Growths from terrific vintages.

Just my thought, but I cannot think of any BDX today, that NEEDS 30 years. Even Ausone, Latour, Petrus, Lafite, etc, will all be stunning by 15-20 at the latest, and those are among the longest-lived wines from BDX. most will be tasty with just a few years of age, though a decade will help. Also, having tasted about 900 wines from 2020 already, it is a fairly precocious vintage, so they will drink well earlier than 2019, 2016 for example.

There is value and in many cases, reasons to buy older vintages. But the is not always the only way to buy wine.