Burgundy Help Needed
Burgundy Help Needed
I haven’t purchased any red Burgundy in years since I found most of it too austere, acidic and dry. I’m sure I chose the wrong ones .
I just got some gorgeous Bluefin tuna I want to sear, probably Asian style.
I’m thinking the right red Burg could be the perfect match. But nothing too fancy.
Criteria:
1) young (?2018)
2) price $45-$125
3) fragrant and soft; leave the dirt for another time (?Chambolle-Musigny, Mercurey)
4) strawberry and cherry flavors preferred but not required
5) somewhat available even if not very common
6) delicious now although not fully mature
What do you suggest, o’ seers of Bordeaux, er, Burgundy?
PS: the local shop has lots of Jadot
I just got some gorgeous Bluefin tuna I want to sear, probably Asian style.
I’m thinking the right red Burg could be the perfect match. But nothing too fancy.
Criteria:
1) young (?2018)
2) price $45-$125
3) fragrant and soft; leave the dirt for another time (?Chambolle-Musigny, Mercurey)
4) strawberry and cherry flavors preferred but not required
5) somewhat available even if not very common
6) delicious now although not fully mature
What do you suggest, o’ seers of Bordeaux, er, Burgundy?
PS: the local shop has lots of Jadot
Stu
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Stuart, I would go with a Jadot Beaune. They tend to be soft and drinkable young. Clos des Ursules, a Jabot Monopole 1er Cru, is a good choice and in the price range you mention (if you can find it). Jadot's other Domaine Beaune 1er Crus are pretty reliable, more so than their negotiant wines.
If you insist on a Cote de Nuits wine, you might try something like 2018 Louis Jadot Les Baudes (Domaine Gagey, a 1er Cru from Chambolle-Musigny, which should be within the price range you ask for.
If you insist on a Cote de Nuits wine, you might try something like 2018 Louis Jadot Les Baudes (Domaine Gagey, a 1er Cru from Chambolle-Musigny, which should be within the price range you ask for.
Last edited by stefan on Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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As a red Burgundy neophyte, I'd follow Stefan's sage advice and Jadot is reliable-to-excellent for my tastes.
Not sure if these are available in south Florida, but I've thoroughly enjoyed young, lower end reds from Felettig, like the Felettig Chambolle-Musigny Vieilles Vignes 2016 -- I bet the 2019 is drinking fine too.
Not sure if these are available in south Florida, but I've thoroughly enjoyed young, lower end reds from Felettig, like the Felettig Chambolle-Musigny Vieilles Vignes 2016 -- I bet the 2019 is drinking fine too.
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Come up to Maine and I will serve you some lobster and Burgundy from my cellar.
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If it were me I would do the following
1. Stay at the Village level. Don't go 1er Cru. You want aromatic and easygoing, not deep and structured
2. Volnay. Chambolle as a second choice.
3. 2016 would be my choice for early drinking. 2017 next
That said, Asian style tuna for me works best with Champagne.
Let us know what you did Stuart
1. Stay at the Village level. Don't go 1er Cru. You want aromatic and easygoing, not deep and structured
2. Volnay. Chambolle as a second choice.
3. 2016 would be my choice for early drinking. 2017 next
That said, Asian style tuna for me works best with Champagne.
Let us know what you did Stuart
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I think a nice Chambolle or Morey St Denis would work. I've really enjoyed some of Lignier Michelot's wines recently. The village bottlings, especially the vieilles vignes bottlings are great and can be had for the $60-80 range.
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I’d either go for a Bourgogne Rouge from a well respected producer like a Barthod or Hudelot or Meo or Lignier and/or open it up to something like Sylvain Pataille who makes lovely Marsannays for ~ $40 that have character; you could spend a lot more but you will not necessarily drink better.
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You know one village Burgundy that I've really enjoyed over the years is the Mongeard-Mugneret Fixin. I drank up all my 2005s but I've had a couple other vintages that I've enjoyed as well.
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I’ve drank a fair bit of Mongeard Mugneret and they are made in a lush, slutty style that does not bother me in the least and Jim’s Ech pictured above is dynamite.
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I've got some beautiful Burgundy in my cellar, it is just taking forever to come around.
What I'm most struck by is how the value of my 2002 Domaine Dujac Gevry-Chambertin 1er Cru Aux Combottes went up in value from like the $50 I paid for it back in the day to the $728 valuation currently on cellartracker.
What I'm most struck by is how the value of my 2002 Domaine Dujac Gevry-Chambertin 1er Cru Aux Combottes went up in value from like the $50 I paid for it back in the day to the $728 valuation currently on cellartracker.
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Guys
If you are looking for cheap(ish) Burgundies, I suggest Savigny Les Beaune 1ers Crus from Pavelot and Ecard, Beaune 1ers from Morot and the wines of Justin Girardin - he is trying to forge his own way and the wines are remarkable values.
Secondly the villages with GC vineyards are always more expensive for the same quality thus villages such as Pommard, NSG and to a lesser extent Volnay are better values. Aloxe wines never get sung about though they are great values - Vercots (1er Cru) Is contiguous to Corton and is somewhat faster to mature that Corton. This village gets a hard time in any case.
Having said that, Burgundy prices are getting out of hand an Burgundy Report reports that they double every five years. Seems like the new rich like them.
Cheers
Mark
If you are looking for cheap(ish) Burgundies, I suggest Savigny Les Beaune 1ers Crus from Pavelot and Ecard, Beaune 1ers from Morot and the wines of Justin Girardin - he is trying to forge his own way and the wines are remarkable values.
Secondly the villages with GC vineyards are always more expensive for the same quality thus villages such as Pommard, NSG and to a lesser extent Volnay are better values. Aloxe wines never get sung about though they are great values - Vercots (1er Cru) Is contiguous to Corton and is somewhat faster to mature that Corton. This village gets a hard time in any case.
Having said that, Burgundy prices are getting out of hand an Burgundy Report reports that they double every five years. Seems like the new rich like them.
Cheers
Mark
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Berthaut-Gerbet Fixin - Les Crais, Les Clos, Les Arveleyts, or just the regular Fixin….
Love BG’s wines up and down the spectrum, and one need not spend much money to have wine that punches well above its price point (for now) with BG…worth a shot, and if it’s not your style, one isn’t out much money!
Love BG’s wines up and down the spectrum, and one need not spend much money to have wine that punches well above its price point (for now) with BG…worth a shot, and if it’s not your style, one isn’t out much money!
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Great advice, Jacques. Too bad I didn’t/couldn’t take it. Just sticking to local shop, WineWatch, I was limited to 2018 Jadot Beaune Ursules and 2018 Jadot CM Fuées. I haven’t collected them yet, will try them next few months.jal wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:56 am If it were me I would do the following
1. Stay at the Village level. Don't go 1er Cru. You want aromatic and easygoing, not deep and structured
2. Volnay. Chambolle as a second choice.
3. 2016 would be my choice for early drinking. 2017 next
That said, Asian style tuna for me works best with Champagne.
Let us know what you did Stuart
You are right about matching wine to tuna. Best of best match for me is rosé champagne.
Stu
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My two favorite regions for approachable young Burgundy are Savigny Les Beaune and Ladoix. Both have had excellent QPR in my experience, across multiple domains.
But my heart is in Volnay and Pommard. Most of the Volnay and Pommard 1er Crus are fantastic. On the Volnay side, Taillepieds, Santenots and Chevrets have had a sweet spot. For Pommard, les Rugiens is amazing. But you can go outside the well known vineyards and get excellent wines.
But my heart is in Volnay and Pommard. Most of the Volnay and Pommard 1er Crus are fantastic. On the Volnay side, Taillepieds, Santenots and Chevrets have had a sweet spot. For Pommard, les Rugiens is amazing. But you can go outside the well known vineyards and get excellent wines.
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This is a great recommendation. I love these too and need to buy more. I've heard their recent Vosne village wines are stellar as well.JimS wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:04 pm Berthaut-Gerbet Fixin - Les Crais, Les Clos, Les Arveleyts, or just the regular Fixin….
Love BG’s wines up and down the spectrum, and one need not spend much money to have wine that punches well above its price point (for now) with BG…worth a shot, and if it’s not your style, one isn’t out much money!
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There are so many wonderful white wines, even from Burgundy, that would be better pairing than some stinky Pinot!
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