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2016 vs 2018 vs 2019 vs 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:21 pm
by imjesuschrist54
Hi all,

I'm curious to know your opinions on these 4 "great" vintages so far.

Here is what I garnered.

2016: Classically structured, good in all Bordeaux subregions

2018: Hot, some people don't like this vintage, but also a great vintage for most.

2019: Quite liked by most, very approachable early. Best value out of all.

2020: More classical than 2019, in between 18 and 19, better on right bank and clay soils.

Re: 2016 vs 2018 vs 2019 vs 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:05 pm
by JimHow
I think that sounds about right, IMJC, although I have not been following the notes on the 2020 vintage that closely yet.

Re: 2016 vs 2018 vs 2019 vs 2020

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:39 pm
by Harry C.
Given your online name, are you trying to decide which vintage to turn water into?

Re: 2016 vs 2018 vs 2019 vs 2020

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:47 am
by Claudius2
Guys,
largely agree with these.
I don't want to rank them, though based on the wines I have tried, I'd rate 2016 as my favourite as they are classically styled with density and power.
I've been picking up a few more at auction or retail when not too expensive. Maybe a touch better on the left bank, whilst 2015 was the opposite.

Not sure why 2015 does not get much attention here. The wines are fruity and well balanced, with lower acid and less overt tannins than 2016, but the wines I've tried are very easy to drink and will come forward faster.

The trade is now starting to re-think 2014, and based on numerous examples, it is a classic, slightly old fashioned vintage that are well balanced and show their terroir. Best I think in the central Medoc. I see 14 as something of a modern 1988, a vintage I always liked.

2018 - the initial descriptions of the vintage made me wary. The wines I have tried sometimes show too much ripeness and alcohol for my palate, but of course, thee will be many top wines in this vintage. I'd rather buy other vintages though. I'd say they are equally as good on both banks, though the alcohol shows thru a bit more on the right bank.

2019 - I really like this vintage, as it has good structure and fruit. Recent tastings have shown that it is not a fruit bomb vintage at all. Even the St Emilions were well structured even at moderate prices. I rate the left bank marginally better than the right, and Pomerol above St Emilion.

I'm going to a big 2020 tasting in May so will reserve judgement.

Re: 2016 vs 2018 vs 2019 vs 2020

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:06 pm
by Nicklasss
Lars night, had the 2014 Moulin Saint Georges from the Vauthier family.

This was very classic, balanced, and drinking nicely.