COVID and wine - not a great combination

[Claudius2]

Guys
This is the first dose of COVID I’ve had and I wonder - did everyone else lose their sense of taste?
My nose isn’t much better either.

So for the last few weeks, I would not be able to say if a wine is red or white based on the nose only. Seems to be olfactory collapse.

On the palate maybe I could pick red vs white but not much else.
Reds taste tannic and dry and whites show high acid, bitterness and slight burnt characters.
Maybe the oak shows thru but whether red or white, the fruit has gone AWOL.

Wendy spent a few weeks in China recently and managed to import the latest Shanghai variant. Whilst we have both lost our sense of taste and smell, other symptoms have varied considerably and it seems to exacerbate any pre-existing conditions.

For those who have not been so afflicted, I do hope it stays that way. COVID is a pain in the ass.

[JimHow]

Hope you and Wendy are feeling better, Claudius, I did not notice a loss of taste/smell when I got it during my murder trial in Alaska.
But then some would say I don't have much or a nose and palate anyway....
I remember having a really bad headache for three days.

[greatbxfreak]

It all depends at one's immune system.

However, I caught it and lost my smell and taste senses for about 3 weeks. Afterward, both came back pretty quickly. It happened in December 2021.

I only had mild symptoms without a temperature over 36 degrees C. I've had 5 times Pfizer vaccine and will get nr. 6 after 1st October 2023.

[SF Ed]

I've only had COVID once and I didn't lose my sense of taste or smell any more than a regular cold.

But after taking Paxlovid, everything tasted horrible and metallic for a few days. But that went away after I stopped taking it.

SF Ed

[DavidG]

Peggy got the original version in early 2020. Almost total loss of smell/taste for 6 months. Slowly returned, with bad smells and bitter tastes coming back first. Took about a year to get back to normal. She got a very mild case of the omicron version in 2022 and had reduced taste/smell for a week or two. No Paxlovid either time, which as Ed can attest really messes with taste independent of the bug.

Somehow I have yet to catch it, even though we were sharing a hotel room when she first got it.

[jckba]

I lost my complete sense of smell and taste for a period of 7-8 days and then everything came back slowly over the course of the following month. 2 weeks in I had a glass of wine at my parents and really didn’t discern much so I just said what’s the point and skipped the calorie intake. So similar experience to you and hopefully you recover your senses quicker than I did.

[tim]

I got it. Didn't lose smell or taste. Just lost my voice and had a horrible cough (no fever).

But then got an inner ear infection a few weeks later that had me in bed for almost a week.

[Claret]

Total loss of taste and smell for 4 or 5 days, then full recovery.

[dstgolf]

Mild flu like symptoms for us but unfortunately I've been suffering with Long Covid. Energy level in my boots with horrible brain fog. Unable to recover with most physical activity. Can't walk 18 holes and was having trouble finishing a round. No cycling or kayaking this summer so not fun. I've started on colchicine and and 50%+ better after a couple of weeks so maybe there is hope. If there is one regret and recommendation is Paxlovid. I didn't take it but from I'm told its primary use apart from clearing severe covid symptoms is it prevents Long Covid. So Claudius suggest taking Paxlovid for 5 days as per recommendation and avoid the long term downside of the disease.

[DavidG]

So sorry to hear Danny. Peggy had that the first time around. I was bringing her meals upstairs for almost 9 months, and the brain fog took almost a year before it completely cleared. That was in February 2020, so no Paxlovid back then. I hope yours clears faster.

[stefan]

So sorry for you people who have suffered from long covid. Our immune compromised daughter had problems for a long time from the mild case of pre-vaccine covid she contracted while doubly masked at a medical facility.

Danny, it sounds like this is the time for me to challenge you to a golf game. I ask for only minor handicapping: I play a self scramble driving a cart from the senior tees with liberal winter rules for ball placement while of course you walk from the pro tees. And instead of you using only one club, you are allowed three, except that if you are ahead by at least three strokes on the front nine, you can use only two clubs on the back. Oh, and the max on a hole is twice par.

[jal]

Danny, it sounds like this is the time for me to challenge you to a golf game. I ask for only minor handicapping: I play a self scramble driving a cart from the senior tees with liberal winter rules for ball placement while of course you walk from the pro tees. And instead of you using only one club, you are allowed three, except that if you are ahead by at least three strokes on the front nine, you can use only two clubs on the back. Oh, and the max on a hole is twice par.

I would still bet on Danny

[stefan]

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I would still bet on Danny
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Yeah, Danny would be the favorite for sure. But I gotta plan...

[dstgolf]

Stefan,

Still playing to a 1 hdcp. Won the super seniors at the club and the Canadian seniors Eastern satellite, 2nd in the regionals and 5th in the Provincials. Nationals still to come end of Sept with Attic Seniors next Mon/Tues in PEI. Exhausted but still can get it around the course. At the provincials I ran out of gas all three days 13 over the last three holes and 2 over for 45 holes before those last three each day. Frustrating not having gas in the tank to finish!!

[stefan]

So you are still great on the links; congratulations! Can't you get a medical exemption that allows you to use a cart during the competition?

[dstgolf]

Seniors can use a cart regardless in tournaments without a medical exemption.

[Claudius2]

It all depends at one's immune system.

However, I caught it and lost my smell and taste senses for about 3 weeks. Afterward, both came back pretty quickly. It happened in December 2021.

I only had mild symptoms without a temperature over 36 degrees C. I've had 5 times Pfizer vaccine and will get nr. 6 after 1st October 2023.

Izak
I've had 4 Pfizer vaccinations which do not seem to have helped much, though the Covid virus keeps mutating into different variants.
Theoretically, the vaccinations should reduce the severity of the infection if you do get it.

My immune system isn't too good.
I've had Ankylosing Spondylitis for many years (its congenital) which has done a good job of smashing my immune system.
The last five vertebrae in my lumbar spine are deformed, whereby the gap inside them has shrunk, thus compressing my spinal cord.
Thus my nervous system does not work particularly well at the best of times, and now, it's totally unpredictable.

Further, it has led to an underlying inflammatory condition.
At the moment, I take 19 different drugs and sometimes I wonder if they are helping at all.
To add insult to injury, I don't metabolize opioids or most anesthetics. Never have.
For that reason, I stay awake during operations and procedures and feel everything.
Some operations have had to be set aside as the anesthetists didn't think it would be safe.

cheers
Mark

[greatbxfreak]

I take every day:

Vit C 500 mg, Solaray

Astragalus root (to support immune system), Solaray

Spectra Vitamin with plenty of different vitamins without Vit D and iron, Solaray

Magnesium + Calcium Citrate 1:1 with Vit D and K, Solaray

Artichoke leaf tablets (to lower blood pressure and clean your liver), French production

Selene tablets, Danish production

Eat a lot of tomatoes, onion, courgette/squash, flat long beans from Morocco, cucumber, bell pepper, lot of fish, rarely pork but adore bellota ham, truffles, veal, chicken.

Feel quite healthy.

You won't last long if you don't look after your immune system. Vit C is a major element in fighting all kinds of diseases. Occasionally, one should make Polish chicken soup which cleans your body well.

[Winona Chief]

I had COVID in January 2023 even though I had the maximum number of Pfizer vaccine shots. Luckily I was able to start PAXLOVID less than an hour after symptoms began. The COVID was gone in less than 24 hours. I had no loss of taste or smell. However the taste of the PAXLOVID lingered in my mouth for about 6 weeks. The only thing that could ger rid of that taste was Champagne - not a bad cure for that problem.

Chris Bublitz

[Claudius2]

I had COVID in January 2023 even though I had the maximum number of Pfizer vaccine shots. Luckily I was able to start PAXLOVID less than an hour after symptoms began. The COVID was gone in less than 24 hours. I had no loss of taste or smell. However the taste of the PAXLOVID lingered in my mouth for about 6 weeks. The only thing that could ger rid of that taste was Champagne - not a bad cure for that problem.

Chris Bublitz

Chris,
I actually took your advice and last night we drank a bottle of Champagne.
Amazingly it tasted pretty good - though maybe a little acidic - and I could small it quite well.
I hope this means I'm getting better.
The worst part of it is the crushing fatigue state - I had no idea Covid would do that to me.
And despite the fatigue, my heart rate is too high and I'm almost breathless.

Izak
I take several supplements as I have deficiencies, such as calcium, Vitamin D, magnesium and various others.
Also use things like ginger and garlic in cooking.
Yet I have a very good diet.
I never eat junk food or take away, rarely eat processed food.
I even make my own bread.
We go thru fruit and vegetables by the truckload - one good thing about Singapore is that they are relatively cheap.

cheers
Mark

[Harry C.]

Talk to your doctor to get a high dose steroid taper-say 80 mg split in 2 doses daily for 10 days-no need to wean off at this short dose. Loss of smell seems related to the variant and a person's immunology. Get well!

[Nicklasss]

Got covid for the second time right now. First time, 2 years ago, a mild variant.

This time, a variant way more fierce : fever, nose, head, throat, abdomen hurts. Sweating, freezing, can't sleep with the unfrequent caugh...

[JoelD]

Got covid for the second time right now. First time, 2 years ago, a mild variant.

This time, a variant way more fierce : fever, nose, head, throat, abdomen hurts. Sweating, freezing, can't sleep with the unfrequent caugh...

Hope you feel better, Nic. Seems like so many people are getting it right now. If you can find a way to do some sort of steam tent and get it out of your lungs/sweat it out then it might help. When I had it pretty bad last year, I got an asian blend of herbs and spices to do this and it helped greatly.

[Claudius2]

Got covid for the second time right now. First time, 2 years ago, a mild variant.

This time, a variant way more fierce : fever, nose, head, throat, abdomen hurts. Sweating, freezing, can't sleep with the unfrequent caugh...

Sorry you have got it again.
Mine is the first time and not what I expected - it isn't like flu except for the respiratory stuff.
my body temp as well as heart rate is quite variable which i think indicates the sweating/freezing (I get a lot more sweating but hey its a tropical place).
My taste buds have not really recovered so its a bit if a pain.
cheers
Mark

Harry
I've got an appt with specialist in 2 weeks - couldn't bring it forward.
I already see 12 specialists as it is - sometimes feel i may as well just live at the hospital....

[JimHow]

Get well soon. Man if a young buck like you gets so sick, what’s going to happen to us old fogies. Need to get my booster.

[Nicklasss]

Claudius, yes i have also noticed the quite variable heart beat too.

Joel, i'll something in that way today, probably hot water with medicinal herb wax in it, to generate medicinal warm vapors.

[Jay Winton]

Not a fun thread folks. COVID has upped its game. I recommend using a product called Nozin https://www.nozin.com/ and masking of course. I bought a pack of disposable N95s. So far we have avoided COVID.

[DavidG]

Not a fun thread folks. COVID has upped its game. I recommend using a product called Nozin https://www.nozin.com/ and masking of course. I bought a pack of disposable N95s. So far we have avoided COVID.

Nozin can reduce bacteria present in the nose and subsequent postoperative wound infections. As far as I am aware, it has never been tested for prevention of COVID or any other viral respiratory disease. It probably can’t hurt and might help, but I wouldn’t rely on it to the point of ignoring proven risk reduction strategies.

The active ingredient in Nozin is ethanol. Maybe we should be snorting our 2005 Pavie!

[Nicklasss]

The active ingredient in Nozin is ethanol. Maybe we should be snorting our 2005 Pavie!

[AKR]