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Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:24 pm
by JimHow
Any thoughts on these wines?

2012 JJ Prum GKA Bernkasteler Badstube Kabinet Mosel, $24.99
2012 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auselese, $46.99
2012 JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Mosel Spatlese, $33.99
2012 JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Mosel Auslese, $41.99

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:54 pm
by Rieslingfan
The only 2012 Prum I have had so far is the Graacher Himmelreich Kabinett, but it is fantastic. 2012 is a good ripeness AND good acidity vintage, so I would buy, buy, buy. I did. (though my pricing was $3-$5 lower, but that was pre-arrival)

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:07 pm
by JimHow
Thanks for the enablement!

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:09 pm
by Claret
Be prepared for laying down many years.

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:33 am
by JimHow
I will keep that in mind, Claret, I've got a few 2001s that have been sitting down there since release.

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:06 am
by Rieslingfan
The last several years have seen more approachable Prum wines. They still have the density for long aging though.

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:45 am
by JimHow
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Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:06 am
by Claret
Well done BD, well done.

My love of German Riesling accounts for over 20 cases of Germans in my offsite lockers. The problem is I am overstocked in general and want to tighten the storage belt so I can consolidate one of units down one size soon.

I have tasted exactly one 2012 and it was a delicious Mosel Trocken so of course I bought a bottle. My quandary is this vintage according to David and others is at least very good and maybe great. It looks like I will have to be content backfilling in a few years although the harvest was lowish yielding and closeouts may be infrequent.

So enjoy your JJ's and remember the higher the Pradikat the longer the aging curve. Consider the Auslese the equivalent of a First Growth in terms of lasting and improving for decades. All the wines will appear to be less sweet when they are aged.

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:59 am
by Rieslingfan
Very nice. I did not get an offer for the Badstube Kabinett. Too bad, as Badstube is a personal favorite. Ended up with Himmelreich Kabinett which is not so tough to take.

Generally I do not start drinking Prum Auslese until age 15 or so. Never had one that was too old.

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:18 am
by JimHow
I couldn't have done it without the enablement.
I got mine at PJs in Manhattan, they ship to most states.

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:58 am
by Claret
Anytime...

Re: Question re 2012 J.J. Prums

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:44 pm
by Rieslingfan
Last thing I need is more Riesling.