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I actually asked my friend about the 2010 and 2013 as well. He said 2010 is richer and 2013 shows more straight bright red cherry fruits and big aromatics. While 2014 is more aromatically complex (This was something I noticed as well but didn't quite put to words in my notes.

125 is a very fair price for the 2013. I might pick up a few bottles. Just hard to pay that after paying 80 for the 2014's recently.
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JoelD wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 am I actually asked my friend about the 2010 and 2013 as well. He said 2010 is richer and 2013 shows more straight bright red cherry fruits and big aromatics. While 2014 is more aromatically complex (This was something I noticed as well but didn't quite put to words in my notes.

125 is a very fair price for the 2013. I might pick up a few bottles. Just hard to pay that after paying 80 for the 2014's recently.

Vigna Elena is more aromatic than others because of the Nebbiolo Rose clone. It is the only Barolo cru that is made using 100% Nebbiolo Rose clone....

80 bucks for 2014 version is a steal Joel, considering it’s current price. That’s why I am leaning towards 2013...
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Chateau Vin wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 5:12 am
JoelD wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:16 am I actually asked my friend about the 2010 and 2013 as well. He said 2010 is richer and 2013 shows more straight bright red cherry fruits and big aromatics. While 2014 is more aromatically complex (This was something I noticed as well but didn't quite put to words in my notes.

125 is a very fair price for the 2013. I might pick up a few bottles. Just hard to pay that after paying 80 for the 2014's recently.

Vigna Elena is more aromatic than others because of the Nebbiolo Rose clone. It is the only Barolo cru that is made using 100% Nebbiolo Rose clone....

80 bucks for 2014 version is a steal Joel, considering it’s current price. That’s why I am leaning towards 2013...
Yes, I found that quite interesting when I was learning about that while tasting. I probably should have gotten more, but I don't buy a lot of young Barolo. I still have at least 30-40 bottles of old Barolo to get to first and I never find an excuse to drink it.

I think the 2013 is the play at those prices. The $80 was from overseas and we took the last of the bottles of the 2014 I believe.
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2 x 2016 Lynch Bages
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David, my wallet hates you. Why oh why did you have to repost on the "2019 Bordeaux + Beaujolais + coming Bx trip" thread?!?

Even though 2019 is without doubt the largest single vintage in my cellar (or will be upon en primeur deliveries), I've found myself going back in for more.

2 * Brane Cantenac
2 * Cantenac Brown
1 * Clerc Milon
1 * Rauzan Segla

While prices were not as good as on release, still 15/20% less that 2018/20, and 30/40% less than 2016.
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6x 2000 La Conseillante
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Look at you, Joel!
Very nicely done!
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Cheval Blanc 2016. If there is ever a choice of third favorite Bordeaux chateau, this would be it. Well, along with Figeac, Ducru and Trotanoy
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Couple of bottles of 2014 Cogno Vigna Elena
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Dionysus wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 8:54 pm David, my wallet hates you. Why oh why did you have to repost on the "2019 Bordeaux + Beaujolais + coming Bx trip" thread?!?

Even though 2019 is without doubt the largest single vintage in my cellar (or will be upon en primeur deliveries), I've found myself going back in for more.

2 * Brane Cantenac
2 * Cantenac Brown
1 * Clerc Milon
1 * Rauzan Segla

While prices were not as good as on release, still 15/20% less that 2018/20, and 30/40% less than 2016.
Conor,

You’ll be thanking me in 20 years, well done!
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JoelD wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 11:05 pm 6x 2000 La Conseillante
You’ll be real happy with those. I think they’re still on the upswing.
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DavidG wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 2:46 pm
JoelD wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 11:05 pm 6x 2000 La Conseillante
You’ll be real happy with those. I think they’re still on the upswing.
Thanks, I certainly agree. The bottle I brought to the Thursday dinner stood toe to toe with the 1990 in my opinion. Much fresher, and still has a chance to gain some of the complexities of the 1990. I think it's at it's early peak and is a truly Howquito wine, the only one of those I've drunk with both Jim and Patrick. Figured I had to get enough bottles to track this and share with some fellow BWEers over the coming years.
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barsacpinci wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 10:19 pm 2020 Eva Fricke Lorcher Krone Riesling trocken (1)
2019 Eva Fricke Riesling Kiedrich trocken (2)
2020 Eva Fricke Riesling Kiedrich trocken (2)
2020 Eva Fricke Riesling Mélange (1)
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2017 Bouchard Chevalier-Montrachet (3)
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You've been killing it with these grand cru whites and top growths from Bordeaux lately. You'll be drinking quite well in retirement!
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Count me as a fan of the under rated Reichsgraf von Kesselstatt.
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3x 1979 Gruaud Larose- Did not heed Stefan's warnings but at around $100 per bottle, taking a shot.
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Some 2020 Clos de la Roilette Fleurie Cuvée Tardive.
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DavidG wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:36 am
PghMike wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:59 pm More 2019s.... Couldn't believe the price on the Figeac so close to the original release.

6x Figeac at $170
3x Cos d'Estournel at $160
DavidG wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:11 pm
That’s a killer price on 2019 Figeac. Below what I recall from 2 years ago. If they have more, I’m in!
PghMike wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:30 pm
Link below for you guys. I made sure to pdf and save the confirmation. Hopefully they deliver, otherwise I'll deal with the charge with the credit card.

https://shop.michaelswinecellar.com/cop ... r-201.html


Thanks Mike. Looks like the same folks who own Michael’s on East, a nice restaurant in Sarasota we’ve enjoyed a few times. Once with Jacques and Jim for a mini BWE gathering. I went in for 6 at that price.
Checked in on my order, they confirmed they have it and the bottles should be in house in the next couple weeks for shipment. Thought there could be some risk of this order going unfulfilled.
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Thanks for checking Mike. I’m inclined to let them stay with the store until the fall if they’ll hold them.
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I recently picked up some Ch. Magdelaine via a BWE-brokered Transatlantic nexus, 4 x 76, 2 x 90, 2 x 96, 2 x 02, 2 x 03.

At auction today I achieved some high productivity qpr by acquiring some bottles of LLC 86 (6),DDC (rouge) 98 (12, but will be 6 after sharing) some Bertagna Clos Saint Denis 07 (5) some Meo Camuzet Corton GC 82 (4) and some Jasmin Cote Rotie 99 (5). The Meo Camuzet is Burgundy Russian Roulette but my downside is £260.

Sadly, however, I got outbid on a lot of three Gruaud Larose 1983, which was paired with three bottles of L’Arrivet Haut Brion 1985. I really set my heart on that lot.
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6 x 2019 Sociando Mallet

Decent price at Allendale Wine Shoppe in NJ - $34
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Well done, David, in stock or pre arrival?
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Listed as in stock. Never purchased from them before.
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Today’s NYT Spelling Bee is tailor-made for this group. Make a word using all the letters. Should be easy, it hit me instantly (what does that say?). If you need a hint, consider the thread it’s posted in.

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Backfill... Now what's my first Wordle word for the morning?
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I'm missing travelling and a good meal, as i came with

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Comte Flaneur wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 9:35 pm I recently picked up some Ch. Magdelaine via a BWE-brokered Transatlantic nexus, 4 x 76, 2 x 90, 2 x 96, 2 x 02, 2 x 03.

At auction today I achieved some high productivity qpr by acquiring some bottles of LLC 86 (6),DDC (rouge) 98 (12, but will be 6 after sharing) some Bertagna Clos Saint Denis 07 (5) some Meo Camuzet Corton GC 82 (4) and some Jasmin Cote Rotie 99 (5). The Meo Camuzet is Burgundy Russian Roulette but my downside is £260.

Sadly, however, I got outbid on a lot of three Gruaud Larose 1983, which was paired with three bottles of L’Arrivet Haut Brion 1985. I really set my heart on that lot.
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2 x 2005 Tour St Bonnet from auction.

Also bid on some 2003 St Pierre but pulled out early as the bidding went silly.
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Interesting about the 2003 St. Pierre, IJ, I do remember a certain buzz about that wine when it came out. I remember getting a bunch for $25per bottle in NH.
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Wasn't aware of the previous buzz around the wine, Jim but that might explain the crazy price they went for. I'm not sure if I should use Cellartracker as a price guide when bidding at auction, but CT says its auction value is $45 US, so $70 NZ. The three bottles went for $150 each NZ. Shame, as I generally like St Pierre and was keen on snapping them up.
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Current lowest retail price of 2003 St Pierre in the USA is $89. A lot of three went at auction for $226 a short time ago. It was a great buy at $25-$30. I won't reload unless I find it way below market.
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Thanks Stefan. In that case, the price they went for wasn't that crazy after all and in fact, was pretty much bang on. Next time I wont rely on CT as a price guide and will just dig my hands into my pockets a bit further. Cheers.
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Ianjaig wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:43 pm Wasn't aware of the previous buzz around the wine, Jim but that might explain the crazy price they went for. I'm not sure if I should use Cellartracker as a price guide when bidding at auction, but CT says its auction value is $45 US, so $70 NZ. The three bottles went for $150 each NZ. Shame, as I generally like St Pierre and was keen on snapping them up.

You probably know this, but the WMJ auction pricing displayed on CT can occasionally be based on the sale of as little as one bottle. Without a WMJ subscription, there’s no way to know how much data is behind the auction price numbers we see on CT. From https://support.cellartracker.com/artic ... luation#h3

Wine Market Journal specifics

Q: Is there any cost to register with the Wine Market Journal (WMJ)?
A: To turn on the WMJ data in CellarTracker you do have to do a 1-time signup and share your email address with the WMJ. Seeing the basic WMJ data requires no separate WMJ subscription. However, to see a richer drilldown on the WMJ site requires a WMJ subscription. Currently this is $49.95 annual or $9.95 monthly fee for a standard subscription. Professional subscriptions with richer content, access to their new mobile site and unlimited queries are available for $199.95 annually, or $49.95 monthly.

Q: I registered separately for the WMJ. Now how do I get the values to show up in CellarTracker?
A: This is very easy. Just go to http://www.cellartracker.com/wmj_opt.asp to activate the data in CellarTracker.

Q: Do you store successive price points so we can see historical gains?
A: The WMJ has data going back to 1997. On CellarTracker we expose the most recent quarter of data and up to 6 months of history. Subscribers to the WMJ can also go to their site to see the full pricing history.

Here are some specific facts about the auction pricing information from the WMJ:
  • The data is based on the trailing 12-month average of auction lots. The data goes back to 1997, and the most recently available 12 months is used for the valuation.
  • Data is for specific vintages and formats (375ml, 750ml, 1.5L etc.) of a given wine. All vintage mappings match the wine the data is linked to.
  • Prices are grossed up to represent cost to the buyer, inclusive of all buyer's premiums as charged by each auction house. This is a good insurance replacement value but is higher by around 30% than what sellers net at auction (which is hammer minus seller’s premium and other seller fees).
  • The data is updated quarterly.
  • We have data on nearly 150,000 wines and have mapped 100% of this.
  • Only 1 sale was required in a year to surface a hammer price, although most wines have many more. The number of sales is not exposed on CellarTracker, but subscribers to the WMJ have rich drilldown ability to see the underlying auction data.
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DavidG wrote: Sun May 15, 2022 2:25 am 6 x 2019 Sociando Mallet

Decent price at Allendale Wine Shoppe in NJ - $34
Arrived yesterday in good shape.
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PghMike wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 4:59 pm
DavidG wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:36 am
PghMike wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:59 pm More 2019s.... Couldn't believe the price on the Figeac so close to the original release.

6x Figeac at $170
3x Cos d'Estournel at $160
DavidG wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:11 pm
That’s a killer price on 2019 Figeac. Below what I recall from 2 years ago. If they have more, I’m in!
PghMike wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:30 pm
Link below for you guys. I made sure to pdf and save the confirmation. Hopefully they deliver, otherwise I'll deal with the charge with the credit card.

https://shop.michaelswinecellar.com/cop ... r-201.html


Thanks Mike. Looks like the same folks who own Michael’s on East, a nice restaurant in Sarasota we’ve enjoyed a few times. Once with Jacques and Jim for a mini BWE gathering. I went in for 6 at that price.
Checked in on my order, they confirmed they have it and the bottles should be in house in the next couple weeks for shipment. Thought there could be some risk of this order going unfulfilled.
I got an email from Nancy at Michael's today saying they didn't have it and to call to process a refund. She said they weren't getting any in. Maybe they just oversold? If so, I hope you get yours.
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6 x '18 du Tertre / $46.

Sneaky buy at the local Costco.
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