So what have you bought lately?

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:50 am

jckba wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:04 pm Picked up a 4 of the 2019 Coudert Clos de La Roilette Fleurie Griffe de Marquis for $29.95/btl + tax during Crush’s July 4th 4 pack sale.

Looks like they sold out, too bad. I was there in person a couple weeks ago and grabbed a magnum of the 2016 tardive for 56+tax though.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:08 pm

1 2019 Walter Scott "Cuvée Anne" Eola- Amity Hills Chardonnay. Tried one and liked it, so I went to buy more and only one was left.
1 1983 Canon.
3 2016 Silvio Nardi "Poggio Doria" Brunello di Montalcino. Short on Italian wines in Oregon.
4 2020 Domaine Vincent & Sophie Morey Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru "Les Caillerets".
4 2020 Domaine Vincent & Sophie Morey Puligny-Montrachet 1er Cru "La Truffière".

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:22 pm

1986 Lynch Bages
1995 Calon Segur
2014 Rauzan Segla

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:05 pm

Mmmm three beauties.

PghMike · Post by **PghMike** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:48 pm

2x 2014 Smith Haut Lafitte
1x 2018 Mount Mary Quintet
1x 2016 Barde Haut

First WDC buy in a while. All in $s about 15 percent below WS lows/CT avgs.

Nicklasss · Post by **Nicklasss** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:19 pm

2019 Riesling Becker
2021 Piers Blancs Sancerre
2020 François Cotat Monts Damnés Sancerre
Deutz Champagne rosé

JimS · Post by **JimS** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:03 pm

2014 Conseillante
2014 Vieux Chateau Certan
1979 Pichon Lalande
2018 Calon Segur

Just too many good wines out there - really want to take the 2018 Calon for a spin before lifting a case. The alcohol of this vintage has scared me away but Rauzan Segla and Calon Segur really have me curious as it appears that some handled this vintage better than others.

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:28 pm

JimS wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:03 pm 2014 Conseillante
2014 Vieux Chateau Certan
1979 Pichon Lalande
2018 Calon Segur

Just too many good wines out there - really want to take the 2018 Calon for a spin before lifting a case. The alcohol of this vintage has scared me away but Rauzan Segla and Calon Segur really have me curious as it appears that some handled this vintage better than others.

I just went long on both the 2014s and got a 1979 Pichon as well (plus got to taste it twice recently). Still passing on the 2018 Calon though. I hear it's a great wine, but I can't fathom the 15% alcohol. I passed on my favorite QPR Capbern from their stable for this reason also. I'll be quite curious to hear your thoughts.

Nicklasss · Post by **Nicklasss** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:53 pm

2003 Clos des Lambrays Grand Cru
A mystery wine i will try to drink with JimHow

marcs · Post by **marcs** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 5:54 pm

6*2019 Jadot Ursules (after some great experiences with the 2002 of this wine). $75/each, but I had a coupon with the retailer refunding me for some overpayments of tariffs so that took it down to $40/each.

JimHow · Post by **JimHow** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 6:33 pm

2003 Clos des Lambrays Grand Cru
A mystery wine i will try to drink with JimHow

Mmmmm I can think of a certain Maine crustacean, and even a certain chocolate cake delicacy, with which that would match very well. Mmmmmmm!

jckba · Post by **jckba** » Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:23 pm

10 cases of 2010 Lopez de Heredia Vina Tondonia Rioja Reserva.

: Stack of 2010 LdH

Nicklasss · Post by **Nicklasss** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:04 pm

jckba wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:23 pm 10 cases of 2010 Lopez de Heredia Vina Tondonia Rioja Reserva.
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Is that a BWE new record for the most cases of one wine bought in one shot?

Nicklasss · Post by **Nicklasss** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:04 pm

I bought a few bottles of the 2019 Camille Giroud Gevrey Chambertin Les Crais

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:25 pm

Why 10 cases, jckba?

jckba · Post by **jckba** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:30 am

stefan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:25 pm Why 10 cases, jckba?

Cash is trash; 2010 is a stellar vintage and Lopez de Heredia is a top producer in Rioja and while the Tondonia Reserva is a large production wine, over time, I think it will prove to be a worthwhile investment which will return a multiple. I have ample cooled storage space, I have time on my side and consignment sale proceeds to burn so this just seemed like the apropos thing to do.

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:22 am

jckba wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:30 am
stefan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:25 pm Why 10 cases, jckba?
Cash is trash; 2010 is a stellar vintage and Lopez de Heredia is a top producer in Rioja and while the Tondonia Reserva is a large production wine, over time, I think it will prove to be a worthwhile investment which will return a multiple. I have ample cooled storage space, I have time on my side and consignment sale proceeds to burn so this just seemed like the apropos thing to do.

Interesting purchase. Tempting to make a smaller one myself.

Mind if I ask what you paid per bottle?

Also whats the alcohol percentage on these bad boys? And how long do you usually like to age this bottling for?

Comte Flaneur · Post by **Comte Flaneur** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:42 pm

JoelD wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:22 am
jckba wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:30 am
stefan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:25 pm Why 10 cases, jckba?
Cash is trash; 2010 is a stellar vintage and Lopez de Heredia is a top producer in Rioja and while the Tondonia Reserva is a large production wine, over time, I think it will prove to be a worthwhile investment which will return a multiple. I have ample cooled storage space, I have time on my side and consignment sale proceeds to burn so this just seemed like the apropos thing to do.
Interesting purchase. Tempting to make a smaller one myself.

Mind if I ask what you paid per bottle?

Also whats the alcohol percentage on these bad boys? And how long do you usually like to age this bottling for?

These were selling for £150 in bond per case in the U.K. It is supposed to be the best ever vintage. I was tempted and if I was JC’s or Joel’s age I would have bought a case or two. But it is a v-e-r-y long term proposition. A multi decade ager.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:14 pm

Thanks. Interesting investment decision. Tondonia Reserva is not a wine investors typically buy. But if Rioja is (re)discovered by consumers, prices might skyrocket down the line. IMO Rioja is one of the most undervalued big and long lived red wines. I should drink more of it. If your storage cost is basically zero, I guess you have little risk of loss and the possibility of a large gain.

jckba · Post by **jckba** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:39 am

Agree with you on the both the long drinking window + the undervalued aspect in todays fine wine market and since I picked them up at the frontline Bowler wholesale price of $40 all-in, I like my odds as it really becomes a question of how long to wait in order to realize the gains I am looking for. I have a sense that once the 2010 is no longer the current vintage and when the retail outlets sell out at the current $45-$55 retail price there will be the first jump and then as it matures, folks will be more than willing to pay an up charge for the better vintage but will that be $100 or more, only time will tell. And for reference, I bought a case of the LdH Tondonia Reserva 2001 (another stellar vintage) for $25/btl wholesale from Polaner back in the day and those now sell for $100 when they come up for sale at Chambers some 9 years later so like I said, I like my odds.

I think this is going to prompt me to start a new thread called ‘wine investment ideas’ so any of us can propose a purchase and then debate it’s merits.

AKR · Post by **AKR** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:03 am

Nice pictures and interesting rationale jckba. I've noticed over the years that despite all the stated love of LdH on enthusiast boards, even when anointed AFWE get together, there is plenty of their wines left at the end of the night.

Doesn't matter whether tinto/blanco/rose, vineyard, aging.

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I certainly can accept the 'cash is trash' logic though, and for some circumstances, it may make sense vs. conventional stores of value.

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:57 am

jckba wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:39 am Agree with you on the both the long drinking window + the undervalued aspect in todays fine wine market and since I picked them up at the frontline Bowler wholesale price of $40 all-in, I like my odds as it really becomes a question of how long to wait in order to realize the gains I am looking for. I have a sense that once the 2010 is no longer the current vintage and when the retail outlets sell out at the current $45-$55 retail price there will be the first jump and then as it matures, folks will be more than willing to pay an up charge for the better vintage but will that be $100 or more, only time will tell. And for reference, I bought a case of the LdH Tondonia Reserva 2001 (another stellar vintage) for $25/btl wholesale from Polaner back in the day and those now sell for $100 when they come up for sale at Chambers some 9 years later so like I said, I like my odds.

I think this is going to prompt me to start a new thread called ‘wine investment ideas’ so any of us can propose a purchase and then debate it’s merits.

I really like this thought process. I've made similar "investments" like this over the years. Although still waiting to see how most play out. I'm still shocked by Ian's quote of 150gbp per case in bond. That is nuts. My current calculations put that at $15 a bottle. Although I have no idea how much it would take to get those over to the states and what the end cost would be. Thanks for the heads up on this wine.

jckba · Post by **jckba** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:21 am

I am pretty sure that Ian’s quoted case price was for a 6 btl lot in bond as when I change my Wine-Searcher parameters to the UK, that is what I see.

Comte Flaneur · Post by **Comte Flaneur** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:38 am

Yes Apols Jc the U.K. price I quoted was a six pack

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:38 pm

12 Domaine Drouin 2019 Laurene Pinot Noir @ $60.

JimS · Post by **JimS** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:02 am

Found a good deal on a case of 2010 Lynch Bages I couldn’t pass up…

Also nibbled on some 2016 Canon which I actually much prefer to the more flamboyant 2015.

Musigny 151 · Post by **Musigny 151** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:56 am

Found some pretty bottles of 1952 DDC.

Claudius2 · Post by **Claudius2** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:52 am

JimS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:02 am Found a good deal on a case of 2010 Lynch Bages I couldn’t pass up…

Also nibbled on some 2016 Canon which I actually much prefer to the more flamboyant 2015.

How much?
I see it on an auction catalogue here and it is pretty good - but in a modern style.

JimS · Post by **JimS** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:19 pm

Claudius2 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:52 am
JimS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:02 am Found a good deal on a case of 2010 Lynch Bages I couldn’t pass up…

Also nibbled on some 2016 Canon which I actually much prefer to the more flamboyant 2015.
How much?
I see it on an auction catalogue here and it is pretty good - but in a modern style.

How much? If referring to Canon it was a 6x2016 Canon, but if "how much?" refers to what I paid for the case of 2010 Lynch Bages, it was a little over $1800 in a private deal.

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:26 pm

3x 1989 Pichon Lalande
1x 1995 Grand Puy Lacoste

Ambrose · Post by **Ambrose** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:08 am

4 x 2019 Gruaud Larose
2 x 2019 Clerc Milon
6 x 2019 Labegorce

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:58 pm

3 1979 Certan de May $289 all in.

Gerry M. · Post by **Gerry M.** » Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:43 pm

JoelD wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:26 pm 3x 1989 Pichon Lalande
1x 1995 Grand Puy Lacoste

Thd 89' Pichon Lalande is one of my favorite all-time wines. I've probably drunk through a case of it with only a couple left. It will be a dad day when it's gone.

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:32 am

Gerry M. wrote: ↑Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:43 pm
JoelD wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:26 pm 3x 1989 Pichon Lalande
1x 1995 Grand Puy Lacoste
Thd 89' Pichon Lalande is one of my favorite all-time wines. I've probably drunk through a case of it with only a couple left. It will be a dad day when it's gone.

I've been lucky enough to have it 3 times in the last year or so and every time has been wonderful. It was my WOTN out of a 21 Pichon Lalande vertical recently. The 85 narrowly beat it out in another great tasting. And it was an ever close second of the great 89 comparison at BWE 2021, only to a perfect bottle of the 89 Lynch.

Good bottles are actually getable for a "reasonable" price right now. Especially in comparison to the other 89's and other vintages of Pichon Lalande (like 1996 and 2000 that have gone bonkers). So I had to grab a few that made sense.

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:04 am

1 2009 Domaine Francois Gaunoux Pommard 1er Cru "Les Grands Epenots"
1 2010 Domaine Francois Gaunoux Pommard 1er Cru "Les Grands Epenots"
1 2009 Domaine Jean Monnier Pommard 1er Cru "Grands Epenots - Clos de Citeaux"

jckba · Post by **jckba** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 1:11 am

Picked up an OWC 6 pack of the 2019 JF Mugnier Nuits Saint George Clos de La Marechale 1er for $134.98/per during Gary’s Bastille Day French wine sale.

Racer Chris · Post by **Racer Chris** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:11 pm

jckba wrote: ↑Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:23 pm 10 cases of 2010 Lopez de Heredia Vina Tondonia Rioja Reserva.
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I just got a promo from Central Wine Merchants for this wine at $44.98

stefan · Post by **stefan** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:26 pm

2 1983 Lynch-Bages

Comte Flaneur · Post by **Comte Flaneur** » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:47 pm

Six bottles of Lionel Faury Cote Rotie Reviniscence 2019, which has 10% Viognier in the blend, for £250 all in including delivery. It really is a compelling wine and remarkably easy to drink.

JoelD · Post by **JoelD** » Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:02 pm

12x 2014 Capbern. Great price popped up and I felt compelled to load more of my favorite qpr Bordeaux.