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Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:39 pm
by Nicklasss
In a vintage like 2010, do you think or did your tried any Second wine worth the search?

Nic

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:23 am
by Roel
The 2009 Lacoste-Borie (2nd wine of GPL) provided me lots of pleasure. It also fared very well in a blind tasting.

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:33 pm
by jckba
I haven't tried any that I can think of but I ended up purchasing cases of both the La Dame de Montrose and La Gravette de Certan as I can't imagine that they won't be stellar values in the near future as I picked both up in the lower $40 range per.

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:06 pm
by robertgoulet
Lacoste borie is my shhhh second....it is a cracker and best bang for the buck back up....2010 kills...for me better than a lot of the big named cru bourgeois

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 7:03 pm
by Jay Winton
a 98 Pavillon rouge (Margaux 2nd) was in good form last night but time to drink up.

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:00 am
by AlexR
Jay, I'm finding that about most 1998 Bordeaux, up to and including Château Latour, which I have had on two occasions not long ago.

However, it is rightly pointed out that the 98 Right Bankers are more successful.

Alex R.

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:49 pm
by JimHow
I don't drink second wines.
I don't want the left overs, the second best grapes of a property.

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:36 pm
by Rudi Finkler
I'm not as strict as you, Jim. :)
If quality and price are right, I don't care whether it is a vin de garde or a second wine. BTW, fortunately, the quality of many second wines has increased dramatically in the last decade...

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:41 pm
by johnz
"BTW, fortunately, the quality of many second wines has increased dramatically in the last decade..."


MAYBE, BUT SO HAS THE PRICE -- to ridiculous levels for many 2ds and the quality is rarely there -- I'm with Jim -- skip the 2ds and search out the cru b's, Castillions, Fronsacs or Moulis wines that are just as good or better for less money.

Re: Second wine of Chateaux

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:16 am
by Winona Chief
johnz wrote:MAYBE, BUT SO HAS THE PRICE -- to ridiculous levels for many 2ds and the quality is rarely there -- I'm with Jim -- skip the 2ds and search out the cru b's, Castillions, Fronsacs or Moulis wines that are just as good or better for less money
I agree. Most of the 2nd wines of big name Bordeaux producers have reached absurd levels. Haven't tasted 2009 Lacoste Borie so I can't comment on that one. I would consider a 2nd wine only if it was reasonably priced and I was pretty sure it very good.

Chris Bublitz