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The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:07 pm
by JimHow
...while wondering when all this snow is going to melt.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:14 pm
by JimHow
This wine is quite a bit personality-less at the get-go, hopefully we'll see some action here.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:32 pm
by JimHow
Ooh this is really sour, I hope it opens up with some air.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:55 pm
by JimHow
Every time I drink a Talbot, and I know I've told this story before, I think of the time we were in Montreal, at Les Halles maybe?, years ago, I ordered a Gruaud Larose, I think it was either a 1988 or 1990, they used to have their wines behind these little gates in the walls of the restaurant, and the waiter went and got it (it was too warm), and I could hear the guy at the next table say, in his French Canadian accent: Tal-BOH!
C'est un Tal-BOH!

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:54 pm
by JimHow
This wine is not wow-ing me.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:18 am
by DavidG
I hope the future holds more promise for this wine. I have a few and will probably wait 5 years to open one.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:25 am
by JimHow
Could very well be in its funky stage right now.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:37 am
by robertgoulet
I to have this....will wait

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:38 am
by JimHow
Yes. Wait. Wait 5-10 years.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:44 am
by JimHow
The 2009 Talbot, as of spring 2015, is definitely in a very, very rugged place.
This was like when you are in a wrestling class in gym and you realize unexpectedly that you are going to get your ass kicked.
I'm exhausted after drinking this wine.
It is un-rate-able right now, I have no idea how it is going to turn out, it is a surly little beast right now.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:59 am
by AKR
I think this is going in my local stores for 80-100 USD now.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:40 pm
by DavidG
I think it was around $50 pre-arrival. Maybe less.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:25 pm
by Comte Flaneur
If there was a wine appreciation scale - how young or old do you like your (Bordeaux) wines - from 'in diapers' to 'necrotic' it would look something like this - young to old - left to right:

Jim aka ODL, Alex R, Comte Flaneur, Keith P (who thinks a cougar is a kitten) and then Francois Audouze, aka wine dinners.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:00 pm
by JimHow
:D
You know, I really do like them when they are first released.
When they go into their shell at that 3-5 year mark, though, they can be tough to take.
This Talbot was a classic example.
When it was first released I actually found it soft and accessible.
Now it is hard and impenetrable.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:13 pm
by AlohaArtakaHoundsong
Hope I did not get whipsawed. I bought the 2009 Talbot and the 2010 Cantemerle, both en primeur on strong ratings and qualitative reviews indicating a style I would like. Subsequent reports show both wines to have been downgraded so to speak since bottling, whereas their respective 2010 and 2009 counterparts have been lauded continuously it seems.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:37 pm
by JimHow
I'm confident you are good with the 2010 Cantemerle, Hound, which I have loved even during what should be an awkward period.

The 2009 Talbot... I just don't know. I mean, I've seen awkward wines before, this was REALLY awkward.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:20 pm
by AlohaArtakaHoundsong
Can't recall if I tried one on arrival. Won't pull one for awhile then.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:23 pm
by AlohaArtakaHoundsong
Hmm, I might have that backwards, and have the 2010 Talbot and the 2009 Cantemerle.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:10 am
by Blanquito
Parker loved the $2010 Talbot... and it was $40 at premiercru (I took delivery on it over a year ago as well), which is basically free in today's wintry bordeaux market.

Re: The 2009 Talbot has been uncorked and other ramblings....

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:20 am
by JimHow
Yes he gave 94 points to the 2010.
Early on I preferred the 2009 to the 2010.
Now I'm guessing I will ultimately prefer the '10.