Bordeaux Wine Enthusiasts

I bought two cases of 2000 Meyney at $20/bottle on futures. After tasting one bottle, I persuaded my wine merchant friend to accept a return of the second case. Every few years we have tried a bottle and, until recently, they reaffirmed my judgment. Now, however, the wine has morphed into a very nice and balanced northern Medoc wine. The cassis laced fruit is very tasty and agrees with the developed nose, and the tannins stand up well to flat iron steak.

I was never good at judging Bdx when it was very young and made a miscall on this wine. In my defense I should add that the professionals also were not impressed with 2000 Meyney when it was young. stefan 90+. Lucie 91.

We drank a few of these when young too, and I didn't love it, so I ended up turning it into a party/bar wine for an event. The bartender ended up stealing the leftover unopened bottles!

Meyney, is a bit difficult. Prices always have been too high for the offered quality (in my country at least). I believe the wines made now are better than in the 1990's, but I can aslo buy a good Grand Cru Classé for the money asked. OTOH, surprises like the 2000 and my experiences with the 1989 (still have a few bottles) may be the proof of the excellent terroir it has, very close to the river. Glad you had the patience to wait for the 2000. I find 2000 a vintage that needs time, even on the level of decent Cru Bourgeois.

Just saw an email today from The Chicago Wine Company listing older Bordeaux in stock. One of them was 1989 Meyney for $50. Given its age and seemingly good reputation, that actually seemed to be not bad pricing.

All those 82-90 years were really good. My favorite was the 86. Cordier knocked it out of the park that year everywhere.

That is indeed a fair price.

Indeed. Meyney in the 1980s: 82, 85, 86, 88, 89, 90.
Tremendous. 1986 is the best, followed by 1989 and 1982.

I haven't bought their wines in a long time. Maybe that mistake case of 2000, and an experimental bottle of the 2003.

For some reason I have no recollection of that 2003.

That would seem to be something they ought to have done ok with.

The 88 Meyney has been sensational since 2008, it's finally starting to fade but it might be my favorite along with the 86. I used to find the 89 thrilling, but it has not moved me of late.

The 89's are fully mature... for some time. It is time to finish the last bottles soon. The 89 Sociando, just to name another beautiful 89, has at least 5 more years on it

I wonder how the 2009 Meyney will end up. I drank several bottles. Most of them I loved, although one or two gave me pause. Nonetheless, I bought a case.

I tasted 2005 meyney on numerous occasions....a couple very good straddling the new world/old world line and a couple so horribly over oaked.

In other words, they were 2005s.

I had the '84 Meyney a few years back. It is a wine not to be left off of an '80's list of great Meyneys !

finner wrote:I had the '84 Meyney a few years back. It is a wine not to be left off of an '80's list of great Meyneys !

I've never had any 84 Bordeaux that was close to great though it has been many years. That was one of the first vintages I remember that was dumped by retailers.

finner, you are joking about the '84 Meyney, aren't you? Like Jay, I never drank a great '84 even if a few ended up being OK after 20+ years in the bottle. None I tasted were good young; very hard and very little fruit.

A 1984 Cos I had in the late nineties tasted basically like water.

JimHow wrote:A 1984 Cos I had in the late nineties tasted basically like water.

Back in the good ole days before reverse osmosis and megapurple.

I don't know if its still true, but I've heard there are still unsold stocks of 84 bdx, festering in negociant warehouses, waiting to be sold in xxx4 years to people celebrating anniversaries, births, and other life events.

I'm not sure I've ever had an 84. The American market would not have been very receptive, being a vintage oriented one, so it probably had to get pushed onto the cruise/air industries which like fancy labels for their first class clientele, but need things that can be poured right away. A lot of the big chain restaurants do the same for their by the glass pours at the bar.

Stefan,
No, I was not joking, but you are right - the 84 is not in the same league as the 86 and 89 Meyney. But, I have had the 85 and the 84 is right there along with it. Very surprising showing for an 84, I would agree with you there. Probably due to the Cordier greatness in that era I suspect.